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Caldari Navy Manhunt - Event Details, Prize Breakdown & Claim Criteria

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Asher Kagen
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#81 - 2014-04-13 12:38:51 UTC
Are Tech 3 hulls counted as cruiser hull??
CCP Logibro
C C P
C C P Alliance
#82 - 2014-04-13 13:03:38 UTC
Asher Kagen wrote:
Are Tech 3 hulls counted as cruiser hull??


For the purposes of this event, yes.

The same applies to T2 and their base hull. So a Sabre would be in the destroyer category.

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slam34
Transtar Services
#83 - 2014-04-13 13:06:55 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
slam34 wrote:

Right......

If CCP gave out solid gold bars, you would complain they were too heavy.

I wouldn't undock a shuttle for a ship skin. Will probably fly logi if I can get to the fight.

This is a massive departure from CCP's normal policy for live events. As the normal policy till now has been no in game rewards. There have been Dev roams that haven't dropped anywhere near this much value in rewards. So yes, I feel the scale of the reward is out of line with their previous behaviour. FIVE HUNDRED BILLION ISK! Seriously.

And the rewards aren't being allocated in a manner that allows everyone a chance. For the low sec ones the big prizes will go to either CFC/PL as the effective entities left who can project caps in number or the local entity if they drop into a system someone has local caps in already. Since the Caps can take the prizes for most damage, & kill shot.

Additionally as has been shown already to be problematic in previous live events, both the structure of the event and agro mechanics punish logi pilots for attending. I say this as someone who normally flies logi also. I turn up, and I get next to no recognition. When the event gives no-one any recognition that's one thing, but when the event is structured to give out FIVE HUNDRED BILLION in pay outs, and as Logi I am punished by agro mechanics making me suspect if it's in high sec, and have no chance at all to get any of those pay outs, I think it's fair enough to say that Logi are getting left in the cold with the design.



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It's a sunny day.

We are the ants.

Surviving, even thriving, while dealing with this basic truth is the challenge of Eve. CCP likes it this way, and figuring out a way to get the prize despite the stacked odds is the point. Good luck to you sir!

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bunmastahflex
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#84 - 2014-04-13 13:16:31 UTC
Radgette wrote:
How exactly do you plan on making sure it actually works this time or do your logs miraculously work when you want them to? :p


You mean the logs actually exist?? Cool
asteroidjas
Rothschild's Sewage and Septic Sucking Services
The Possum Lodge
#85 - 2014-04-13 13:19:41 UTC
bunmastahflex wrote:
Radgette wrote:
How exactly do you plan on making sure it actually works this time or do your logs miraculously work when you want them to? :p


You mean the logs actually exist?? Cool


They do, but they just don't show anything Twisted
Joran Sothos
H.E.L.P.e.R
#86 - 2014-04-13 13:34:39 UTC
Couple points/questions.

First, CCP definitely has had in-game rewards for past live events. Think of all those uber nice drops from past dev roams.

Second, and more to the point, will those aiding the Provists suffer penalties? It seems hard to fathom that the Caldari would simply shrug off anyone aiding these traitors as merely the cost of doing business.

A massive Caldari standing hit would seem to be in order, but as we all know, unless you are a mission runner or engaged in reprocessing, negative standings don't mean anything. You could be - 1 billion to the Caldari and yet still dock in Jita and buy stuff, for example. Still, give out neg standing hits to those that aid the Provists. If nothing else, it makes sense within the setting.

Since faction standing doesn't prevent anyone from going anywhere, perhaps there should also be massive negative security standing hits for those aiding the Provists, also? If folks are going to aid people the Caldari consider public enemies, there should be serious consequences other than just the potential loss of a ship.

If an IC justification is needed for Concord imposing such sanctions against capsuleers for what might be considered an internal Caldari matter, I'm sure that if Concord didn't blacklist those who aid the Provists, the Caldari might not be that willing to continue funding Concord. Having the economic superpower threatening to pull its funding does tend to make one sit up and take notice :)
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#87 - 2014-04-13 13:43:27 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:

The top damage (ship class) rewards are not cumulative with the top overall damage. Whoever comes in second with the same ship class as the top overall damage dealer will take home the class reward. In order to claim the corpse reward, players must contract the corpse to Hikemi Korrado at no cost (we will check to make sure the corpse is the correct one).


dinsdale head explode if he sees this.
from said toons bio:

Caldari Navy [CN]
Member for 25 years, 11 months, 24 days


Caldari Navy [CN] from 1988.04.20 13:36 to this day


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Tesco Ergo Sum
#88 - 2014-04-13 14:35:29 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:

The top damage (ship class) rewards are not cumulative with the top overall damage. Whoever comes in second with the same ship class as the top overall damage dealer will take home the class reward. In order to claim the corpse reward, players must contract the corpse to Hikemi Korrado at no cost (we will check to make sure the corpse is the correct one).


dinsdale head explode if he sees this.
from said toons bio:

Caldari Navy [CN]
Member for 25 years, 11 months, 24 days


Caldari Navy [CN] from 1988.04.20 13:36 to this day




Sansha Kuvakei has been a member of True Power for 109 years, 7 months and 25 days...

:tinfoil:

Also, I keep reading this as "Provi-ists" not "Provists", I always thought CVA would go rogue one day but not like this!
Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
#89 - 2014-04-13 15:01:38 UTC
Real logi pilots don't do it for the killmails. And the best don't do it for plex.

Note that i like the idea. But really hate TiDi. Even for 20 plex. I just can't see this as being anything but a tidi node crash event.

And yea in low sec how many titans are going to get dropped?

AKA the scientist.

Death and Glory!

Well fun is also good.
Xenuria
#90 - 2014-04-13 16:55:06 UTC
Is this another one of those things where snuffbox and goons camp the event site, shooting everybody that dares attempt participation? If it is than I think I will just sit this one out being as I am neither in goons or snuffbox.

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Arsine Mayhem
Doomheim
#91 - 2014-04-13 17:09:28 UTC
Valerie Valate wrote:
860 Plex total rewards?

seems a lot, even though it's going to be spread out over quite a few people


Yea, spreading the plex across more events might be a good plan.
Geosepi
The Solar Warden Collective
#92 - 2014-04-13 17:32:15 UTC
is there a in game Chanel we can join fleets in???
Mixu Paatelainen
Eve Refinery
#93 - 2014-04-13 17:36:57 UTC
Hitting 55% tidi 2 out, running away.
bunmastahflex
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#94 - 2014-04-13 17:51:05 UTC
I found the system, 82% tidi. eeeeek.
fudface
ACME-INC
#95 - 2014-04-13 17:52:47 UTC
bunmastahflex wrote:
I found the system, 82% tidi. eeeeek.

what system is it?

my 2 isk worth
Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
#96 - 2014-04-13 17:56:04 UTC
TiDi is honestly not too bad. Its not just the % its the responsiveness. And everything was fine as of 5min ago when i died.

looks like PL want to clear out any competition from the field.

overall, surprised and impressed.

AKA the scientist.

Death and Glory!

Well fun is also good.
Snupe Doggur
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#97 - 2014-04-13 17:56:43 UTC
Akkio, planet three, it seems?
Suzariel Kel-Paten
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#98 - 2014-04-13 17:58:39 UTC
My connection dropped, and I think a few others' did, as well. Was docked at the time, so no big.

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Lyra Greatboy
Doomheim
#99 - 2014-04-13 18:01:19 UTC
Devs, no live event in hisec today?
bunmastahflex
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#100 - 2014-04-13 18:12:24 UTC
Snupe Doggur wrote:
Akkio, planet three, it seems?


Stay away from planet 3, it's swarming with gankers.