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FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#921 - 2014-04-12 20:21:38 UTC  |  Edited by: FT Diomedes
As someone who lives in Tenal, I am hoping that these changes to the Gila and Rattlesnake make them popular choices for a variety of play styles, but I cannot help thinking that the devs would have been well-advised to give Guristas ships some bonuses to E-War. Maybe open the bonus to include bonuses to E-War drones? That would give them something truly unique that did not pigeon hole them into a very limited fit/role.

So, Worm: bonus to light drones and EC-300s
Gila: bonus to medium drones and EC-600s
Rattlesnake: bonus to sentry drones (it is a BS after all), heavy drones, and EC-900s (or whatever the heavy drone variant is called)

Then add faction e-war drones and make them slightly better than normal ECM drones, and nerf the effectiveness of the current T1 ECM drones.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#922 - 2014-04-12 22:02:02 UTC
Your concerns about ECM drones were, in fact, addressed by Rise in the Frigate thread.

"CCP Rise" wrote:
Why not ewar drone bonus for Guristas? - ewar drones are kind of a mess currently and we don't want to explicitly commit ships to being bonused for them until we solve that.
Xavier Thorm
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#923 - 2014-04-12 23:17:17 UTC
Also chiming in to voice my dislike of the changes to the Gila (and the worm, but honestly it was so bad before that I don't really care as much). I would prefer to still be able to use the Gila as a sentry boat, but my greater concern is that drone-size-specific bonuses are very limiting and boring. Coupled with the huge reduction in drone bay size, I think these changes will make the Gila too much of a niche ship, and I shudder to think what the same kind of changes will do to the Rattlesnake.

P.S.
Also, can we get a less horrendously ugly model for the Gila already? P
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#924 - 2014-04-12 23:31:40 UTC
The drone bay is being pretty significantly reduced, but you're also using considerably fewer drones at one time.
TrouserDeagle
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#925 - 2014-04-12 23:51:46 UTC
Xavier Thorm wrote:

Also, can we get a less horrendously ugly model for the Gila already? P


get out
Arthur Aihaken
Kenshin Academia.
Kenshin Shogunate.
#926 - 2014-04-13 00:28:02 UTC
Xavier Thorm wrote:
Also, can we get a less horrendously ugly model for the Gila already? P

It's a feature with Caldari ships. Lol
What about switching it to something like the Osprey instead?

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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#927 - 2014-04-13 00:29:41 UTC
Better change the Gila to have a Drake hull.
Arthur Aihaken
Kenshin Academia.
Kenshin Shogunate.
#928 - 2014-04-13 00:34:26 UTC
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
Better change the Gila to have a Drake hull.

That's priceless… Twisted

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Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#929 - 2014-04-13 01:26:42 UTC
Xavier Thorm wrote:

P.S.
Also, can we get a less horrendously ugly model for the Gila already? P


The Gila is a glorious glorious beast, leave it alone you bastard >=[

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

Arthur Aihaken
Kenshin Academia.
Kenshin Shogunate.
#930 - 2014-04-13 01:27:49 UTC
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
The Gila is a glorious glorious beast, leave it alone you bastard >=[

This must be one of those "beauty in the eye of the beholder" things...

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Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#931 - 2014-04-13 01:46:08 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
The Gila is a glorious glorious beast, leave it alone you bastard >=[

This must be one of those "beauty in the eye of the beholder" things...


You simply cannot go on a proper roam in the moa hull without getting an appreciation for all its charms.. It has light teeth!

And a suitcase!

Its wonderful!

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

Arthur Aihaken
Kenshin Academia.
Kenshin Shogunate.
#932 - 2014-04-13 01:46:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Arthur Aihaken
CCP Rise, please pimp my Mach next week...
• Drop one turret and turn it into a six-gun (looks better)
• Remove one high slot and extend an additional mid slot instead
• 37.5% rate of fire role bonus to offset the turret loss

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Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
#933 - 2014-04-13 01:52:31 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
CCP Rise, please pimp my Mach next week...
• Drop one turret and turn it into a six-gun (looks better)
• Remove one high slot and extend an additional mid slot instead
• 37.5% rate of fire role bonus to offset the turret loss


and here is me thinking the only battleship you fly is 18bil pimped CNR's..

8-6-6 should be mach layout 7 turrets is fine allows a neut

T3's need to be versatile so no rigs are necessary ... they should not have OP dps and tank

ABC's should be T2, remove drone assist, separate HAM's and Torps range, -3 HS for droneboats

Nerf web strength, Make the blaster Eagle worth using
Arthur Aihaken
Kenshin Academia.
Kenshin Shogunate.
#934 - 2014-04-13 01:55:16 UTC
Harvey James wrote:
8-6-6 should be mach layout 7 turrets is fine allows a neut

It would be a 7-6-7 layout instead, so you'd still have the utility high for a neut.

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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#935 - 2014-04-13 02:09:14 UTC
Either give the mach 8 turrets or drop it to 6 turrets and boost their output.

Yes, I'm totally serious.

No, this isn't the right thread for this.
Arthur Aihaken
Kenshin Academia.
Kenshin Shogunate.
#936 - 2014-04-13 02:43:20 UTC
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
Either give the mach 8 turrets or drop it to 6 turrets and boost their output. Yes, I'm totally serious.

Yes, I believe that's what I suggested... Lol

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Amari Jackson
Zacharia Explorations Group
#937 - 2014-04-13 02:49:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Amari Jackson
I gotta throw my hat in the ring regarding the Gila changes.

Initially I was pleased, but the more I thought about it, the more I thought to myself, "sheesh - this kinda pigeon-holes the Gila into one role: wham-o blam-o (technical terms, that wham blam).

But sometimes we'd like to mix it up. Maybe field a full flight of light logi-drones or e-war (which, I guess just means save-my-butt hornet ec-300s). But with these changes we can't. Instead, a "lowly" tristan can field more logi drones than the Gila. And so can the Algos. And the Omen. Etc. Etc. Etc.

a little more bandwidth to field a flight of lights would be nice. or a bonus for medium logis...or...something! So it ain't so BORING!

my 2 cents.

-Amari
Arthur Aihaken
Kenshin Academia.
Kenshin Shogunate.
#938 - 2014-04-13 02:56:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Arthur Aihaken
Amari Jackson wrote:
Initially I was pleased, but the more I thought about it, the more I thought to myself, "sheesh - this kinda pigeon-holes the Gila into one role: wham-o blam-o (technical terms, that wham blam). 'Cause sometimes we'd like to field a full flight of light logi-drones or e-war (which, I guess just means save-my-butt hornet ec-300s). But as it is, a "lowly" tristan can field more logi drones than the Gila. And so can the Algos. And the Omen. Etc. Etc. Etc.

Rapid launchers should be a a good pairing with since they just got a +50% kinetic and thermal damage boost.

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Rowells
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#939 - 2014-04-13 03:27:15 UTC
so am I right to think dramiela and mach will be getting warp speed boost as well?
Arthur Aihaken
Kenshin Academia.
Kenshin Shogunate.
#940 - 2014-04-13 03:31:41 UTC
Rowells wrote:
so am I right to think dramiela and mach will be getting warp speed boost as well?

Yes, that's my understanding. 7.5 AU/s on the Dramiel and 3.0 AU/s for the Machariel (although the exact numbers haven't been posted).

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