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How long does it take for +5 implants to pay off over +4s?
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LilPoundCake
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-04-10 13:15:40 UTC
+5s give you faster training but the cybernetics V has a big training time before you qualify for them. How long does it take before the implants make up for the deficit?
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#2 - 2014-04-10 13:33:39 UTC
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#3 - 2014-04-10 16:23:59 UTC
tldr; about a year or so.

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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#4 - 2014-04-10 16:50:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Steve Ronuken
Other answer:

Cybernetics 5 has a bunch of other uses. So immediate.

(mindlinks, high level hardwirings, etc)

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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#5 - 2014-04-10 17:53:25 UTC
+5s are expensive and can be destroyed for a little gain. But you can buy them whenever you want.

A remap is free for a big boost and can't be destroyed. But are limited in how many times you can use them.

Something to think about.

Mr Epeen Cool
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#6 - 2014-04-10 21:32:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
The difference is 90 SP per hour per +1 to both the primary and secondary attributes.

I consider anything over 2000 SP/hour as being acceptable, and I try to minimize training anything below that. However, it doesn't prevent me from training anything.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#7 - 2014-04-10 23:37:48 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Other answer:

Cybernetics 5 has a bunch of other uses. So immediate.

(mindlinks, high level hardwirings, etc)



Most of the implants that require Cybernetics 5 require one of two things - either very good player skills (to protect your pod after a ship loss), or a large investment in Leadership skills, or both.

There'll come a time when you should consider these options, but you won't be posting in New Citizens Q&A then.

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Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
#8 - 2014-04-11 01:00:26 UTC
Don't train Cyber V for stat implants, only train it if there are other, immediately useful implants you want which require it.
Nikolai Lachance
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-04-11 02:08:22 UTC
To answer the original question, it takes almost 10 months for the train from cybernetics 4 to 5 to be made up by using +5's over +4's, assuming you always train skills for which you have +5s installed. After that, +5's net you less than 800k extra skill points per year over +4s. That's less than a 5% improvement.

Like others have said, don't train Cyber 5 just for +5's. Train it only when you are ready to use other implants that require it.
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2014-04-11 05:25:03 UTC
The only real reason the train Cyber 5 is to plug in those sexy Slave Implants.

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