Player Features and Ideas Discussion

"Thanks for not f**king up the Cynabal?" It used to be we praised people for doing a good job, not for when they repeatedly screw up and the community forces them to do a 180°. Making any decision is preferable to indecision, but we also hope that people learn from their mistakes and stop making bad decisions, too (rapid launchers, Nestor…).

I would think the answer to that would be all that it can get. Also I found situational drone swapping to be nice as far as making a drone ship fun to fly. For this ship there is only 1 "right" type of drone which strikes me as less fun, but to each their own.

Yeah, warp speed bonus sounds interesting. It will be nice on the Cynabal, but it will be a godsend on the Mach... I'd completely written the Mach off as a viable skirmishing ship when you guys changed the warp mechanics... it just became too slow to be useful.

I, too, was thinking about web resistance last night, but came to the conclusion that there was no way to balance it: either you'd have a token resistance bonus that wouldn't really make an appreciable difference in a fight, or you'd have a big enough bonus that it did make a difference-- in which case you'd be looking at some of the fastest ships in the game being nearly uncatchable.

The other bonus I used to think would be good on Angel ships was point/scram range, since they're kiting ships, and point range is one of Gallente's gimmicks. But with the tracking enhancer nerf, that bonus would be basically useless on the Cynabal. On the Dram it would let you use it as a great tackler for gangs (you'd have to forgo your damage application due to range, but whatever). On the Machariel it would be great, since while the Mach is really fast and nimble for a battleship, it's still a bit clumsy to kite with compared to a cruiser. A point range bonus would give you more room for maneuvering errors while kiting, and the long falloff of BS autocannons means you'd actually still be doing damage while staying at the edge of your point range. The poor Cynabal would be pretty shafted with the point range bonus though... what's the point of increased tackle range when you have to close to 20-25km to do any damage anyway?

I still think you guys should re-design the Vigilant. Give it a utility high by dropping a hardpoint and boosting the damage output of the remaining guns. Swap its web-strength bonus for a point/scram range bonus, and give web strength to the Ashimmu.

Ohh, hey look. The gila is not utilized as much as the ishtar due to the ishtar being a ton better even though gila is faction. Lets balance this out by making the gila even worse..... I get just under 600 dps on my gila, now its dropping down to 460 will all level Vs. I liked the idea of only 2 drones, but only medium drones is a ballache

Agreed. Seen lots of Ishtars and Deimoses. It's pretty rare to see Vigilants flying around. If they were broken, don't you think we'd see more people exploiting their brokenness?

because if you can't make a fleet out of it, it's clearly not OP

You can only use 2 medium drones on the gila now..... I've estimated according to valkerie IIs
Again, I havent got any missiles on my current fit and I do 600 dps with garde Is

Gonna take a shot in the dark and say probably around the same time as they ANNOUNCE them.

I wouldn't hold my breath for it being in the Summer Update.. They just finished introducing SOE and they are still trying to fix that. To add another missile faction means, since they already used up the "friendly pirate" faction, means they need to make a new enemy, new rats, maybe missions, area of nullsec, etc.

Best bet I would say would be next winter's update. I mean don't get me wrong, I'd love to see it in the summer, but I just don't see them getting to it by then.

Yeah i'm butthurt about 90% webs. Not only me, i would say plenty of people are about serpentis ships. You got me. I'm butthurt, what you gonna do about it ? Not that butthurt as before tho - as some nerf did slip in for one of those "underpowered" hulls.

Obssesional ? As soon as topic will go down, same will happen with "obssesion" clearly making not really an obssesion.

I try to make an impact when impact can be made - aka when we can provide feedback.

Can't recall myself making single topic about serpentis being op. Hardly can call that my priority.

This balance pass is small victory tho, maybe BS changes can make me smile even more.

Now eat the nerf like a man.

Exactly, which is why they should do something else other than just nerfing the powergrid a bit in this pass.
The tank on a Vigilant is not enough to justify its price or rarity.

It's sort of like trying to nerf a Thorax because it does more damage than most other T1 cruisers.
Sure it does if it gets into that in-your-face range. But there are plenty of counters.