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Smartboms destroying wrecks.

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Anthar Thebess
#1 - 2014-04-03 10:22:03 UTC
Can this be fixed?
Currently smart bombs don't destroy wrecks.
Can smart bombs work like any other weapon and destroy ship wrecks in the process?

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elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#2 - 2014-04-03 10:47:01 UTC
Nothing to fix here, nothing broken.

If you want to make a wreck disappear, collect it or shoot it.

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Anthar Thebess
#3 - 2014-04-03 10:53:52 UTC
Every thing broken, and need to fix.
Any other weapon system that im using to destroy ship will also destroy wreck if i use this weapon on it.
I can use smartbomb to destroy ship, but smartbomb will not destroy wreck.

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Corraidhin Farsaidh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-04-03 11:02:06 UTC
It's a smart bomb and knows not to waste energy on wrecks which you might want to loot at a later point...
Anthar Thebess
#5 - 2014-04-03 11:05:30 UTC
Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:
wrecks which you might want to loot at a later point...

Roll

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Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#6 - 2014-04-03 11:40:39 UTC
Anthar Thebess wrote:
Every thing broken, and need to fix.
Any other weapon system that im using to destroy ship will also destroy wreck if i use this weapon on it.
I can use smartbomb to destroy ship, but smartbomb will not destroy wreck.


Every other weapon system isn't a Smartbomb.

For example, you need to actively 'Target' the wreck with any other system.

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Anthar Thebess
#7 - 2014-04-03 11:43:07 UTC
Bomber bomb have also AOE damage, and destroy wrecks.
You cannot actively target wreck using bomb.

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Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#8 - 2014-04-03 11:54:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Jint Hikaru
Anthar Thebess wrote:
Bomber bomb have also AOE damage, and destroy wrecks.
You cannot actively target wreck using bomb.


Good point.

I still think SBs should leave the wrecks alone. If only for the LOLS of a good Smartbomb gank.

Sorry, another Edit:
You haven't stated WHY you want this change?

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Mike Voidstar
Voidstar Free Flight Foundation
#9 - 2014-04-03 14:13:28 UTC
Bombers dont fire 'Smart' bombs.

If anything smartbombs are broken because they hit fleetmates and cloaked ships. They should follow the settings of your safety and only hit legal targets.
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#10 - 2014-04-03 14:16:59 UTC
Can you still shoot wrecks, last time I had a ninja looter in a mission I went to blast the wrecks with missiles and nothing happened.

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Anthar Thebess
#11 - 2014-04-04 06:44:31 UTC
Why to be consistent
Smartbomb can hit ship, pod , but not wreck - that is the weakest of them all.
It is still a weapon.

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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#12 - 2014-04-04 06:53:26 UTC
Strange as it is, I think it's true and justified. Other AOE weapons hit everything regardless, but Smartbombs not. Should be made consistent.

@Mike Voidstar

Yes, because AOE damage is smart as soon as it explodes. If anything, the name of the module is misleading. A blastwave does not and can never distinct between friend and foe as soon as it is set off.

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Anthar Thebess
#13 - 2014-04-04 07:03:59 UTC
Well 'smart' on SmarBomb is that it is not hitting your ship, only every thing around it.

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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#14 - 2014-04-04 07:39:51 UTC
Well, if it counts as smart not to hit yourself with your own weapon then ... our standards of "smart" should be reconsidered. Roll

(I get what you mean, tho. Blink)

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Anthar Thebess
#15 - 2014-04-07 07:25:22 UTC
If something is "bugged" it should be pointed to CCP Pirate

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WaterMarks
The Keywork
#16 - 2014-04-07 07:43:00 UTC
its a bomb...it should hit everything around

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Anthar Thebess
#17 - 2014-04-07 10:52:55 UTC
If this change will be applied i will gladly see a T1 Battleship hull that have bonus smart bomb range ;)
6 Bonused smartbombs - dominix?
This will allow this hull to have 2 different roles that will exclude them self.
Sentry boat , or smartbomb boat.

To small dps for a ratting ship, but throwing few od those battleships into enemy drone concentration can bring nice change to FC ship preferences.

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Alundil
Rolled Out
#18 - 2014-04-07 12:13:17 UTC
Anthar Thebess wrote:
If this change will be applied i will gladly see a T1 Battleship hull that have bonus smart bomb range ;)
6 Bonused smartbombs - dominix?
This will allow this hull to have 2 different roles that will exclude them self.
Sentry boat , or smartbomb boat.

To small dps for a ratting ship, but throwing few od those battleships into enemy drone concentration can bring nice change to FC ship preferences.


I have an idea of what you're thinking there. However the reality of current fleet fights where there are enough drones to want to clear them with a smart bombing battleship makes this improbable. A slow battleship would be unlikely to make it to the drones through the layers of defensive bubbles. And would therefore die before making an impact.

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Anthar Thebess
#19 - 2014-04-07 12:24:02 UTC
Well not exactly.
Possibility of this kind of dropping this kind of BS will force FC to use very spread formations for sentry drones.
This will be again big hit for a slowcat doctrine , and will motivate more to move from sentry to fighters.
We could have also some battle cruiser that will have this bonus.
Right now ship having a bonus to smartbombs could be abused by ratters.

Still this kind of smart bombing will be most of the times a suicide act.


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Voidstar Free Flight Foundation
#20 - 2014-04-07 15:02:12 UTC
Rivr Luzade wrote:
Strange as it is, I think it's true and justified. Other AOE weapons hit everything regardless, but Smartbombs not. Should be made consistent.

@Mike Voidstar

Yes, because AOE damage is smart as soon as it explodes. If anything, the name of the module is misleading. A blastwave does not and can never distinct between friend and foe as soon as it is set off.



It does not have to be a simple blast wave, that is just fluff. I can just as easily claim the bomb disperses a cloud of nanites that act to inflict the damage type the bomb is designed for on all valid targets within range. You are playing a game where we pilot semisentient spaceships through fluidic space fighting eachother and other sapient machines.

You explain sheilds, tractor beams, warp tunnels, clones, repairing armor and structure without a source of mass, and lasers with ranges measured in mere kilometers and I will be happy to discuss the physics behind a controlled blastwave that only hits what you want.
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