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New T1 ships? Please discuss
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Draven Kain
Unity Ventures
#1 - 2014-04-03 02:56:09 UTC
I wouldn't mind seeing some new t1 ships in the game, every time I see a new ship it's a faction or a t2 or you know the deal CCP. So this is my idea of adding a new cruiser to the Gallente side, please be honest in your opinions and if you have one for the others, feel free to add it.


Algain

Cruiser (Gallente)


A cruiser that primarily looks like an Algos with the curved blending of the Thorax, it's primary goal is to be a very mobile drone boat with a large drone capacity. However to offset it's speed and drones, it would have to be lightly armored but still have the armament to take down ships it's own size and bigger.

H:4
M:3
L:3
Drone Hold: 100m3
Maekchu
Doomheim
#2 - 2014-04-03 03:03:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Maekchu
First things first. Why is Gallente so special, that they have to get an additional T1 over all the other factions?

Also, your design goal of the ship, could be achieved by just fitting a Vexor for speed and light tank. So I fail to see why there should be added a completely new hull to fill a niche role, that a niche fitted Vexor already can do.

I'm not saying adding new ships is a bad idea, but they need to add some more to the table than this. I also believe rebalancing the current mechanics and ships is a much more pressing matter, than adding new ships into the game at the moment.
Ashwararu Nakota
The UnRemembered
#3 - 2014-04-03 03:14:56 UTC
I wouldn't mind seeing a better looking ship than the Vexor but to be a viable new ship it must do something new or as yet unfulfilled. What would its role bonuses be? In what way would it perform that the Vexor doesn't already cover? I like new ideas but this needs to be fleshed out more. And of course if Gallente were to get a new ship the other empires will each need a ship filling your new role as well.

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Mario Putzo
#4 - 2014-04-03 03:15:32 UTC
Probably better off just asking for a vexor remodel.
Draven Kain
Unity Ventures
#5 - 2014-04-03 03:26:04 UTC
Draven Kain wrote:
please be honest in your opinions and if you have one for the others, feel free to add it.


I like the Gallente but I am not asking for special treatment at all, I however rarely play with other race ships. So I am unfamiliar with them, which I want to rectify at some point.
It gets stale looking at the same ship and I use the vexor but it's got limited amount set builds that are effective at least for me at the moment. Wouldn't you rather look at a new ship and ponder how to fix a pvp/pve build to it?
I agree that CCP needs to rebalance some of the ships out there, but that's a seperate issue which is being discussed in other threads.
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#6 - 2014-04-03 03:31:02 UTC
a new ship for just having a new ships sake?

if u can think of something for it to do, some role that isnt already filled and something that doesnt obsolete an already existing ship and then explain how it will improve game play and all our lives, then we're talking...

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Kenrailae
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2014-04-03 05:21:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Kenrailae
I'd personally like to see new T1 ships added to dessies, BC's and BS over cruisers. Plenty of cruisers* in the game. Or better yet, another real battle cruiser class like the Tier 3 BC's, or ABC's whatever they're called these days, instead of the mish-mash of 'Heavy Cruiser' BC's and 1 ABC.


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Valkin Mordirc
#8 - 2014-04-03 05:41:42 UTC
As much as a I would love a new T1 Cruiser, I would love even more for another T1 BC or a T1 BS, But what I would really love...is that the Moa redesign, I really get tired lugging around that d****ed briefcase it refuses to leave without.


But, if CCP can add in a new ship, without having it over/under balance the game, I would be game. Personally, I would love to see another battlecruisers. Maybe a Heavy E-war/Logi to add to the universe? Or for the battleship I'd rather see the current T1 Battleships that don't have T2 counterparts, (Rohk Hyp and so on) get there own Tech 2 hull. So goes for the dessie class. Big smile

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Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#9 - 2014-04-03 07:22:51 UTC
Better idea: Add a new line of Jove ships. Your drone ship can be one of the Jove-cruisers. Deal?
Luwc
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-04-03 08:00:22 UTC
Draven Kain wrote:
I wouldn't mind seeing some new t1 ships in the game, every time I see a new ship it's a faction or a t2 or you know the deal CCP. So this is my idea of adding a new cruiser to the Gallente side, please be honest in your opinions and if you have one for the others, feel free to add it.


Algain

Cruiser (Gallente)


A cruiser that primarily looks like an Algos with the curved blending of the Thorax, it's primary goal is to be a very mobile drone boat with a large drone capacity. However to offset it's speed and drones, it would have to be lightly armored but still have the armament to take down ships it's own size and bigger.

H:4
M:3
L:3
Drone Hold: 100m3


Bye Bye Vexor.

it was fun while it lasted since some scrub posted bullshit on the forum.

Stupid idea.
There are already fast striking cruisers for each race. why add another one.

You are trying to mix a Vexor and Thorax which is stupid.

Also you cant just add a ship for a single race only. That would mean that each race would need another cruiser in addition to the already existing cruisers which are more than enough.

Sounds like a waste of time and ressources to me.

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Hunter Arngrahm
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-04-03 08:39:26 UTC
About the only new brand of Destroyers I'd like to see are maybe some Tech 2 Combat destroyers, and something akin to the Tier 3 Battlecruisers: Destroyers with a role bonus that allows them to fit Medium guns. It would better flesh out the progression between Frigates and Cruisers and provide an earlygame reference to how battlecruisers work later on.

Naturally it'd work like Tier 3 Battlecruisers as well, with Caldari getting a Medium Rail destroyer like the Naga, Amarr getting a Medium Laser Destroyer like the Oracle, Minmatar getting a Medium Projectile Destroyer like the Tornado, and Gallente getting a Medium Blaster Destroyer like the Talos. I'm not one for calculating actual stats or making models, but I think it's a sound idea.
Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#12 - 2014-04-03 08:48:44 UTC
Hunter Arngrahm wrote:
About the only new brand of Destroyers I'd like to see are maybe some Tech 2 Combat destroyers, and something akin to the Tier 3 Battlecruisers: Destroyers with a role bonus that allows them to fit Medium guns. It would better flesh out the progression between Frigates and Cruisers and provide an earlygame reference to how battlecruisers work later on.

Naturally it'd work like Tier 3 Battlecruisers as well, with Caldari getting a Medium Rail destroyer like the Naga, Amarr getting a Medium Laser Destroyer like the Oracle, Minmatar getting a Medium Projectile Destroyer like the Tornado, and Gallente getting a Medium Blaster Destroyer like the Talos. I'm not one for calculating actual stats or making models, but I think it's a sound idea.


I'd rather see a more combat-oriented line of T2 BC. It's kind of sad that even clunky battleships get more then one line of T2 ships. Of course, since destroyers are also kind of the red stepchildren of T2, I wouldn't mind seeing more T2 destroyers, too.

After more T2 battlecruisers, of course. Lol
Hunter Arngrahm
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#13 - 2014-04-03 15:01:34 UTC
Owen Levanth wrote:
I'd rather see a more combat-oriented line of T2 BC. It's kind of sad that even clunky battleships get more then one line of T2 ships. Of course, since destroyers are also kind of the red stepchildren of T2, I wouldn't mind seeing more T2 destroyers, too.

After more T2 battlecruisers, of course. Lol


Actually, I meant "More Tech 2 Destroyers as well as Tier 3 Destroyers that can fit medium guns", that way there's an even 3 Destroyer ships for each empire faction (To add up with Battlecruisers).
Syrias Bizniz
some random local shitlords
#14 - 2014-04-03 15:16:48 UTC
To be honest, the Minmatar T1 Cruiser line could actually used a ship that actually does not suck with arties & mwd.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2014-04-03 15:20:24 UTC
Given the time it has taken so far to get ships rebalanced, do we really need to make it that much more convoluted with additional ships?
Draven Kain
Unity Ventures
#16 - 2014-04-03 20:03:32 UTC
I started this post to discuss the ideas of making new ships which in turn would make new T2 and T3 ships sometime in the future. I started without proper research in the matter of ships (most notably all the talk about "rebalancing" ships) and without explaining what I wanted to talk about.

I am sorry for this, just to clarify my post was and is a relatively general idea and still just a discussion about new T1 ships that you would like to see. That would fit a role or purpose that you feel is lacking in ANY ship class with ANY AND ALL races. If you want to talk about rebalancing ships that you consider too over powered or under powered or whatever you feel it lacks, then there are other posts that feature this.

I want us, the players who fly these ships we have right now to show our ideas on what we want in an original ship, no copies or god like or cheaty ships, just a ship you feel would make a difference in a pve or pvp battle.