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Sha'Aryn
Republic Industry and Logistics for Expatriots
#441 - 2011-11-30 17:33:58 UTC
While attempting to stack ore in my alt's Orce, I get this message:
"Notify You cannot put items into that container because it belongs to {[character]owner.name} and you are not in their fleet, their corporation or held in the highest personal standing by them."

The Orca is configured to allow fleet member usage, and I am the CEO and squad member in the the fleet.
ACY GTMI
Veerhouven Group
#442 - 2011-11-30 17:40:35 UTC
Joruz Ghasha wrote:


  • While the 'move to' functionality when trying to loot a wreck is nice, it gets annoying too. If I'm going somewhere and click the 'loot to' window while slightly out of range the ship changes to head for that wreck and forgets the earlier course.



    • This is also a problem for me.

    My hauler is also a salvager. I see the "Open Cargo" button is lit for a wreck. Ordinarily this means that I don't have to use the tractor beam. When I press it now, it means that shortly the hauler won't be able to transfer ore from the Orca.

    Yes, I should check the range, but I'm used to the old functionality.
    steveking
    Rainbows in the Darkness
    #443 - 2011-11-30 17:41:02 UTC
    Voxinian wrote:
    Gazaa Trimburr wrote:
    Presidente Gallente wrote:
    I will check some issues on SISI later and file bug reports.


    UNNERF ISK MAKING
    I just read a bit about drone regions. Earning ISK in EVE is still very and enough time consuming depending on your experience, skills and what corp/alliance you joined, where you live. The overall steep learning curve is one big risk for CCP not getting more players and losing players. ISK is essential. Sure, it should not to be too easy but the actual time investment to make a fair amount of ISK for eg. PvP is totally waste of RL time. It can't be the intention of CCP to mess up their player's RL. We need to face this very realistic: EVE is as most of the MMORPG's a very addictive game where it's hard to keep control over your gaming time depending on what you do ingame. You plan to log at 11PM and you end up in bed at 3:30AM again. It's a fine line, I know. If ISK earning is too easy we end up in a non-thrilling Arcade MMORPG. But to me the ISK case is a serious business. CCP should focus on it.


    Overall: for such a big patch the deployment schedule and actual issues are a joke compared to former patches. Well done, CCP. Keep up good work. Get more ppl out from reality and you will make history in gaming.


    fully agreed Smile


    +1 from me.

    I can only play a couple of hours a day at most and it is very hard to make a decent amount of ISK. On occasion I get lucky while exploring for NPC hideouts and salvage and loot a commander ship with nice goodies to sell, but I haven't seen a commander ship in weeks.. while exploring/probing is all I do. Mining is also slow and does not earn all that much versus the time it takes + that it is boring. Also doing missions makes just a little amount of LP's and ISK if you like to stay in high sec space, lvl3 and higher forces you to go to low sec systems thus risking your ship that you bought with the little money you have. I'm not interested in PVP thats why I stay in High sec systems, but high sec is really dull and boring *especially without incursions in high sec) and hard to earn some decent money.

    EVE somewhat forces you to play like 6 hours a day if you like to have ISK's to spend on better ships etc.

    lvl 3 and 4 do not force you into low sec.i do mine out of nakugard and have never been sent to low sec.
    Raid'En
    #444 - 2011-11-30 17:43:40 UTC
    why is the session timer still at 30 seconds ?
    Crappeshotte
    Sehmosh Industrial Security Inc
    #445 - 2011-11-30 17:50:05 UTC
    The new typeface is okay: could be better, but could be worse. But why are typefaces of such different sizes used together? In Items, for instance, the main text is quite large, and I could easily read it at 90%. But if I scale down to 90% I can now barely read the tabs because their typeface is much smaller. Can we get the same typeface/size used everywhere, please?

    Basically, widening the font then scaling it down makes it... the same size. So no space saved at all.

    Also, on sign-in, because the new typeface is so much wider my logon name overflows the text box. Looks messy.

    And how do I stop new windows opening as tabs in pre-existing windows?

    And where the hell did they find 5.00 ISK as an average price for PI Raw Materials? I want to go sell there. 500 ISK for Processed is a bit optimistic too.

    And finally, PLEASE can we have an option to sort Assets by number of items, greatest first?
    Voxinian
    #446 - 2011-11-30 17:58:06 UTC
    Jerell Harnaken wrote:
    Voxinian wrote:
    Gazaa Trimburr wrote:
    Presidente Gallente wrote:
    I will check some issues on SISI later and file bug reports.


    UNNERF ISK MAKING
    I just read a bit about drone regions. Earning ISK in EVE is still very and enough time consuming depending on your experience...........

    Overall: for such a big patch the deployment schedule and actual issues are a joke compared to former patches. Well done, CCP. Keep up good work. Get more ppl out from reality and you will make history in gaming.


    fully agreed Smile


    +1 from me.

    I can only play a couple of hours a day at most and it is very hard to make a decent amount of ISK. On occasion I get lucky while exploring for NPC hideouts and salvage and loot a commander ship with nice goodies to sell, but I haven't seen a commander ship in weeks.. while exploring/probing is all I do. Mining is also slow and does not earn all that much versus the time it takes + that it is boring. Also doing missions makes just a little amount of LP's and ISK if you like to stay in high sec space, lvl3 and higher forces you to go to low sec systems thus risking your ship that you bought with the little money you have. I'm not interested in PVP thats why I stay in High sec systems, but high sec is really dull and boring *especially without incursions in high sec) and hard to earn some decent money.

    EVE somewhat forces you to play like 6 hours a day if you like to have ISK's to spend on better ships etc.



    It's not about how much time you spend doing it's how well you do it I've made 1 bil in about 16 hours of game time. It's about your methods get them right and you don't need to spend loads of time making isk.


    Sure to some extend. You probably have a lot of SP which makes it easier, with my 15 mil SP mostly invested in combat related skills it's a different story, I don't even have 1 bil.

    Would be great if they would at least add more challenging NPC hideouts in 0.5 and higher with decent loots instead of the peanut looting now or increase the chance to encounter command ships.
    Voxinian
    #447 - 2011-11-30 18:09:23 UTC
    steveking wrote:
    Voxinian wrote:
    Gazaa Trimburr wrote:
    Presidente Gallente wrote:
    I will check some issues on SISI later and file bug reports.


    UNNERF ISK MAKING
    I just read a bit about drone regions. Earning ISK in EVE is still very and enough time consuming depending on your experience, skills and what corp/alliance you joined, where you live. The overall steep learning curve is one big risk for CCP not getting more players and losing players. ISK is essential. Sure, it should not to be too easy but the actual time investment to make a fair amount of ISK for eg. PvP is totally waste of RL time. It can't be the intention of CCP to mess up their player's RL. We need to face this very realistic: EVE is as most of the MMORPG's a very addictive game where it's hard to keep control over your gaming time depending on what you do ingame. You plan to log at 11PM and you end up in bed at 3:30AM again. It's a fine line, I know. If ISK earning is too easy we end up in a non-thrilling Arcade MMORPG. But to me the ISK case is a serious business. CCP should focus on it.


    Overall: for such a big patch the deployment schedule and actual issues are a joke compared to former patches. Well done, CCP. Keep up good work. Get more ppl out from reality and you will make history in gaming.


    fully agreed Smile


    +1 from me.

    I can only play a couple of hours a day at most and it is very hard to make a decent amount of ISK. On occasion I get lucky while exploring for NPC hideouts and salvage and loot a commander ship with nice goodies to sell, but I haven't seen a commander ship in weeks.. while exploring/probing is all I do. Mining is also slow and does not earn all that much versus the time it takes + that it is boring. Also doing missions makes just a little amount of LP's and ISK if you like to stay in high sec space, lvl3 and higher forces you to go to low sec systems thus risking your ship that you bought with the little money you have. I'm not interested in PVP thats why I stay in High sec systems, but high sec is really dull and boring *especially without incursions in high sec) and hard to earn some decent money.

    EVE somewhat forces you to play like 6 hours a day if you like to have ISK's to spend on better ships etc.

    lvl 3 and 4 do not force you into low sec.i do mine out of nakugard and have never been sent to low sec.


    I was send to low sec with a lvl3 distribution mission and security mission. Low sec with a bestower = pawnage.
    Dark Magnetar
    Royal Ordnance
    #448 - 2011-11-30 18:31:18 UTC
    Varesk wrote:
    Sometimes the station environment will not load when docking. I am in a Caldari station. Also not everyone in station is showing up in the Guests tab.


    Confirming that I typically only see partial guest list loading in stations.
    nasty1
    R-.A.-G.-E
    #449 - 2011-11-30 18:37:34 UTC
    nasty1 wrote:
    The eve audio bug, invasion of privacy

    I have severe Tourette syndrome (I randomly swear) ever since I downloaded the new stuff it seems my audio stays on longer than I'm pressing the key down

    You can imagine my embarrassment when I randomly swear, normally I would just take my finger off the push to talk butten $£^%£ off

    I know I'm not the only one with this problem, I would say 35% have the same problem. randomly swear and this has become evident with this bug

    It can be reproduced when somebody annoys me and if they don't the audio stays on longer than it should anyway

    All my settings are correct

    "invasion of privacy" no joke plz help


    I forgot to say it seems like settings for voice-activated (im not using voice-activated btw) is conflicting with other settings, not everyone is getting this bug, while downloading Crucible..

    Download stoped at 10% so restated download, again it went **** up at 99% with 10 seconds left, I was horrified, anyway did repair.exe, worked and then I had this audio bug so i re-downloaded the whole client.. Gee and installed it and this is where I'm at, other people have the same problem so it's not just me
    Penny Ibramovic
    Wormhole Engineers
    #450 - 2011-11-30 18:47:59 UTC
    Bookmarks--sorry, locations--outside of a scanning probe's sphere can be almost impossible to see. Could the contrast be increased a little, please?
    penelope pitbull
    Sebiestor Tribe
    Minmatar Republic
    #451 - 2011-11-30 18:52:47 UTC
    Generally, awesome patch, thanks CCP.

    2 issues found though:

    1. Warping in to a Instrumental Core ladar site, imagine my suprise when I found 4 Sleeper BS instead of the usual 2. Luckily I was able to GTFO in my Tengu Shocked Is this a bug or planned, and more importantly are combat sites affected? Might make The Mirror kinda exciting!

    2. Refitting is a nightmare. My screen freezes and it takes about a minute to to install one module. Tweaking graphics to low makes no difference.
    Rasz Lin
    #452 - 2011-11-30 19:00:22 UTC
    mouse even LESS responsive than it was
    clicking undock twice every 10 minutes because game doesnt register the first click
    game now misses clicks in station inventory so instead of drag&drop game generates 'select area' action - also happens ~every 10 minutes to me


    UNDOCKING TAKES AGES
    Penny Ibramovic
    Wormhole Engineers
    #453 - 2011-11-30 19:01:22 UTC
    After jumping out of the home w-space system, so the first jump of the evening, the light blue highlighting of probes' arrows and spheres disappears, leaving no indication that they are selected. The highlighting was fine before this session change.
    Lavoslav Penkala
    Appetite 4 Destruction
    #454 - 2011-11-30 19:02:51 UTC
    "Items" and "Ships" window are closed every time I dock. Have to open them manually on each dock.
    California Haze
    Doomheim
    #455 - 2011-11-30 19:04:21 UTC  |  Edited by: California Haze
    My list of things I feel deserve attention:

    1. Portraits resetting- before the patch I could change minor details, now when finalizing the portrait ; the pose, expression, and lighting is reset.

    2. Autopilot optimize broke- no need to explain, simply does not work. Also, any possibility of adding a feature that allows one to optimize w/o going into AP settings?

    3. Windows not locking when pinned- This has probably been mentioned more than any other issue except PI tax, but I feel it can't be said enough. (I know its going to be fixed, just hasn't happened yet)

    4. Window ID doesn't persist- minor issue although deserving of a fix.

    5. In-station corp icon is ridiculously large. Of all the great ideas in this update how did this happen?

    6. New font, ehh...

    7. Any way to remove corp balance from wallet mouse over? Is there supposed to be a setting for this somewhere?
    Monstre
    Killing In The Nude
    #456 - 2011-11-30 19:04:48 UTC
    aGRESSION TIMER IN A WORMHOLE??

    !how would concord even know?...

    found a legion and a talus on a high sec wormhole, engaged them..
    when they jumped into high sec to rep up.. we followed... and LO AND BEHOLD... we were able to engage them without concord interference. red skulls and all...
    so again. fight starts in wormhole, can be finished without provication in highsec.
    Sauron Thule
    Garoun Investment Bank
    Gallente Federation
    #457 - 2011-11-30 19:06:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Sauron Thule
    Market Orders don't export correctly.

    When exporting Market orders to a .txt file (wallet-->orders-->export) it only exports gibberish

    Notepad can only read the data as "squares" and the occasional timestamp, and posting it elsewhere throws in some odd other characters as well.

    I'm using the PC client and the problem persists after today's patch.

    Below a small amount of the exported .txt document, and below that the way it should look:


    current, problematic export:

    牯敤䥲ⱄ祴数䑉挬慨䥲ⱄ档牡慎敭爬来潩䥮ⱄ敲楧湯慎敭猬慴楴湯䑉猬慴楴湯慎敭爬湡敧戬摩瀬楲散瘬汯湅整敲Ɽ潶剬浥楡楮杮椬獳敵慄整漬摲牥瑓瑡ⱥ業噮汯浵ⱥ捡潣湵䥴ⱄ畤慲楴湯椬䍳牯Ɒ潳慬卲獹整䥭ⱄ潳慬卲獹整乭浡ⱥ獥牣睯ബ㈊㐳㘰㠹㜱ⰷ〲㌲ⰸ㌷ㄳ〱〹ⰳ慓牵湯吠畨敬ㄬ〰〰〰ⰲ桔⁥潆杲ⱥ〶〰㜳〶䨬瑩⁡噉ⴠ䴠潯‴‭慃摬牡⁩慎祶䄠獳浥汢⁹汐湡ⱴⰱ牔敵ㄬ㔶⸵㌳㔬〰ㄬ⸶ⰰ2011-11-30 08:07:33,ⰰⰱ㘷㘷㠳ⰶ〹䘬污
    (again, in notepad it only consists of blocks and timestamps)

    export the way it was before crucible:

    orderID,typeID,charID,charName,regionID,regionName,stationID,stationName,range,bid,price,volEntered,volRemaining,issueDate,orderState,minVolume,accountID,duration,isCorp,solarSystemID,solarSystemName,escrow,
    2340698177,20238,733110903,Sauron Thule,10000002,The Forge,60003760,Jita IV - Moon 4 - Caldari Navy Assembly Plant,1,True,1653.35,500,44.0,2011-11-28 21:10:09.000,0,1,7676386,90,False,30000142,Jita,14.06,

    Problem fixed as of this morning, 01-12-2011 (pre patch-3)
    Mira Stargazer
    Epic Warfare
    #458 - 2011-11-30 19:11:27 UTC
    Issues for me: (maybe already mentioned, but didn't read through all posts)

    1 - Voice does no longer work.

    2 - The windows is already mentioned. But I would like to add another thing with them; when I open upp a new one (fleet for example) it can happen that the new window pushes away the already opened ones (cargo, chat etc) to another place on the screen. It annoys the hell out of me!

    That being said, I really appreciate the work you have done with crucible. Thumbs up!

    I have feelings, I can smile - and murder while!
    naed21
    Iron Knights
    #459 - 2011-11-30 19:11:57 UTC
    David Laurentson wrote:
    My corp has 377 bookmarks, going back six months. They're all either in wormhole space (including holes, ladars and a safespot or two), or they're wormhole exits in k-space.

    Was this deliberate?


    You think that was a lot? My Corp had over 3,000 corp Locations...

    If you right-clicked in space, your client would crash.

    It looks like they took every bookmark that we have ever placed into our corp hangers and placed them all into our corp locations, regardless of if we've deleted them or not.
    MadDog1
    Brutor Tribe
    Minmatar Republic
    #460 - 2011-11-30 19:17:15 UTC  |  Edited by: MadDog1
    Sitting in a station...all in game windows disappear leaving just a frozen picture of the ship. Client freezes. Same thing on auto pilot to a station. Set course for 8 jumps on AP. Came back to frozen client....still registers that I am logged in (I have other accounts running). No ship displayed but all user interfaces are displayed. Something funky is happening.

    ***Update...

    Logged back in hit warp to zero. Gate showed no option to use gate. Came after roughly 25 seconds. Jumped through gate. No problems loading nebula and gates; however, ship and overview did not load for up to a minute. Server lag maybe?