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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#7441 - 2014-03-28 10:59:24 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
the European's get to work and immediately look to direct their hate somewhere.


And we have so very very much of it to vent

Dont you know thats why the EU was created? To help us vent our hatred outwards instead of against each other?

pretty muchBig smile

yet we still slag the French.


They love it

The whole of Western Europe is like one big Boners Room, with Germany as E1 and UK and the Scandanavians giggling in the corner while Spain, Italy and Greece QQ about how they were scammed

lol, emergent gamplay.....Shocked

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SKINE DMZ
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7442 - 2014-03-28 10:59:31 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:


Nope, Mynnna said


And that makes it true because...? Give up already, some guy willingly gave his **** to ero, became ultra rage nerd + wife, ero thought it was funny took the ****? And he should be banned for it because........ he was torturing him? I have trust in CCP that they know better then listen to a couple of other rage nerds who think someone got tortured... IN A TEAMSPEAK SERVER I mean WOW lol so amaze times 255

I disagree
Alp Khan
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7443 - 2014-03-28 11:01:00 UTC
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
Sentamon wrote:
Some Goons crying about humiliating people on the Internets!!!! Oh the hilarity. LolLolLol


That is the point. Some people hate the goons, other love them, many people honestly couldn't care less, however when it comes to scamming and the whole HTFU, the goons are by far top of the pile.

Yet even the goons, the guys who have taken scamming to whole new level, even they find what E1 does wrong, kicked him and banned him.

That should tell you something about E1's actions.


How convenient this enlightenment coincided with E1 announcing for CSM, and not a moment in the entire year before.


You are assuming that Erotica 1 would have been able to release his name. From what I remember, when he tried to run before, he gave up just before releasing his name. I'm wondering why?
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#7444 - 2014-03-28 11:01:21 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Please define 'most' and provide researched statistics to support up this assertion.

Just about everyone who isn't directly profiting from the activities involved, either in the form of ISK or enjoying the recordings.
You are the only ones defending this.

Even those who are concerned about slippery slope consequences of intervention, don't actually approve of what is happening in the Bonus Room.

The post history of this thread evidences that.

hi there.

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Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
#7445 - 2014-03-28 11:01:55 UTC
Wow its still going. Well other than the statistics links posted many pages ago (only 500 unique people!) that shows this is not even news in the wider eve community let alone the rest of the gaming community.

I present the general theory of the Internets.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19

Note that it never mentions Eve specifically. Eve is no where near the "worst game community". In fact i have found it to be the best so far. E1 and all the drama kings and queens in this thread aside. I am having fun with internet space pixels.

AKA the scientist.

Death and Glory!

Well fun is also good.
Asia Leigh
Kenshin.
Fraternity.
#7446 - 2014-03-28 11:02:09 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
Asia Leigh wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
Your mistake was using the EVE client to blackmail me. You should have kept it all out of game.


Like you do when you humiliate people for the purpose of your pleasure in order to try avoid any action by CCP?



As stated before, You know that holding peoples ship or assets ransom in exchange for public humiliation (ie, singing songs and making a general ass out of yourself) isnt anything exactly new to eve...


This is okay is it?

So you admit that it is public humiliation and that is fine.

Also just because something has been going on for a while it does not make it okay.



My point is why the out cry now when it has been known to have been going on since eve first launched. Hell someone posted earlier tonight a recording of a CCP Dev singing after getting caught and ransomed. Did that guy get banned? Doubt it... Was there this out cry for any of the other 'bonus room' recordings? How about all the other thousands upon thousands of people who are made to sing and get laughed at after being caught and ransomed? Did the pirates that caught those people get banned too? How about the out cry of support for them? Lets face it, its all the same crap...

You see where I'm going with this and why obvious witch hunt is obvious now?
Apply the damn rules equally >.>
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#7447 - 2014-03-28 11:02:23 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Please define 'most' and provide researched statistics to support up this assertion.

Just about everyone who isn't directly profiting from the activities involved, either in the form of ISK or enjoying the recordings.
You are the only ones defending this.

Even those who are concerned about slippery slope consequences of intervention, don't actually approve of what is happening in the Bonus Room.

The post history of this thread evidences that.


No he isn't.

I don't profit from it (not part of their group or any associated group at all) and I don't really have any interest in the recordings (I listened to the Sohkar one and the one posted yesterday. I listened in during the Sohkar discussion this afternoon my time, but that's it. No other interest in the recordings at all. For the most part they seem quite boring).
Prince Kobol
#7448 - 2014-03-28 11:02:52 UTC
Danalee wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:

So why didn't the CEO of Widot tell everybody to get lost and refuse to kick E1?

E1 has stated that he was never kicked, he left of his own accord, Mynnna is saying he was kicked.

So taking what you have said, A high Level Director has gone to the CEO of Widot, told to kick him and they must of agreed otherwise E1 would still be a member.

Or of course he could of just been told by his CEO that he was getting kicked and then rushed to claim he was leaving just before the boot hit him on the ass Big smile


So as someone in the know, why would you first claim he was kicked and after realising everyone to know that to be impossible by game-mecanics invent yet another spin on the same BS?

And who says the CEO of Widot didn't do just that? Say NO.

Why are you trying soooo hard?

D.

Bear


So avoiding the answer, interesting.

Also, if what E1 is doing is okay and fine, then why leave?

What was the problem, nobody should of been upset with him because apparently what he is doing is fine
Alp Khan
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7449 - 2014-03-28 11:03:53 UTC
Danalee wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:

So why didn't the CEO of Widot tell everybody to get lost and refuse to kick E1?

E1 has stated that he was never kicked, he left of his own accord, Mynnna is saying he was kicked.

So taking what you have said, A high Level Director has gone to the CEO of Widot, told to kick him and they must of agreed otherwise E1 would still be a member.

Or of course he could of just been told by his CEO that he was getting kicked and then rushed to claim he was leaving just before the boot hit him on the ass Big smile


So as someone in the know, why would you first claim he was kicked and after realising everyone to know that to be impossible by game-mecanics invent yet another spin on the same BS?

And who says the CEO of Widot didn't do just that? Say NO.

Why are you trying soooo hard?

D.

Bear


If Erotica 1 happily left GSF (because he claims that people insisted him to stay), then could you tell me why he attempted to start a Grr Goons organization?

If he was well liked in GSF, why the Grr Goons?

In fact, if he was asked to stay in Widot, why isn't he getting in and staying in now?
Prie Mary
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#7450 - 2014-03-28 11:04:01 UTC
Alp Khan wrote:



You are assuming that Erotica 1 would have been able to release his name. From what I remember, when he tried to run before, he gave up just before releasing his name. I'm wondering why?



I'd assume he only does it as a "super troll" a middle finger to eve, the community and its rules trying to prove he is above all of them.


Fixed fail quote

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#7451 - 2014-03-28 11:04:09 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:

lol, emergent gamplay.....Shocked



Are you referencing the big Null Alliance east of Poland thats recently declared Sov in a system previously belonging to a brave young corp?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#7452 - 2014-03-28 11:04:19 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
So avoiding the answer, interesting.

Also, if what E1 is doing is okay and fine, then why leave?

What was the problem, nobody should of been upset with him because apparently what he is doing is fine

Mandarine, the answer has already been provided above.

No one was telling a lie.
Salvos Rhoska
#7453 - 2014-03-28 11:05:14 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
hi there.

Hi! Hows it going?

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Alp Khan
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7454 - 2014-03-28 11:05:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Alp Khan
Asia Leigh wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
Asia Leigh wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
Your mistake was using the EVE client to blackmail me. You should have kept it all out of game.


Like you do when you humiliate people for the purpose of your pleasure in order to try avoid any action by CCP?



As stated before, You know that holding peoples ship or assets ransom in exchange for public humiliation (ie, singing songs and making a general ass out of yourself) isnt anything exactly new to eve...


This is okay is it?

So you admit that it is public humiliation and that is fine.

Also just because something has been going on for a while it does not make it okay.



My point is why the out cry now when it has been known to have been going on since eve first launched. Hell someone posted earlier tonight a recording of a CCP Dev singing after getting caught and ransomed. Did that guy get banned? Doubt it... Was there this out cry for any of the other 'bonus room' recordings? How about all the other thousands upon thousands of people who are made to sing and get laughed at after being caught and ransomed? Did the pirates that caught those people get banned too? How about the out cry of support for them? Lets face it, its all the same crap...

You see where I'm going with this and why obvious witch hunt is obvious now?


Do you know any CCP developer that felt compelled to send Erotica 1 pictures of a boyfriend/girlfriend? Or any CCP developer that felt compelled to write Erotica 1 on his/her body with mayonnaise? Perhaps some CCP developer which had their disabled partner go into a screaming panic attack as a result of interaction with Erotica 1?

Go ahead, I'm listening.
Jack Lennox
Grove Street Families
#7455 - 2014-03-28 11:05:38 UTC
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:
Are we just trolling this thread now?





might as well, any actual discussion looks like it's gone downhill

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Danalee
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#7456 - 2014-03-28 11:06:20 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
Danalee wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:

So why didn't the CEO of Widot tell everybody to get lost and refuse to kick E1?

E1 has stated that he was never kicked, he left of his own accord, Mynnna is saying he was kicked.

So taking what you have said, A high Level Director has gone to the CEO of Widot, told to kick him and they must of agreed otherwise E1 would still be a member.

Or of course he could of just been told by his CEO that he was getting kicked and then rushed to claim he was leaving just before the boot hit him on the ass Big smile


So as someone in the know, why would you first claim he was kicked and after realising everyone to know that to be impossible by game-mecanics invent yet another spin on the same BS?

And who says the CEO of Widot didn't do just that? Say NO.

Why are you trying soooo hard?

D.

Bear


So avoiding the answer, interesting.

Also, if what E1 is doing is okay and fine, then why leave?

What was the problem, nobody should of been upset with him because apparently what he is doing is fine


You are indeed avoiding to answer questions as to what your motives are and where your proof is. Thanks for confirming.
What E1, shedoo, ransommers, goons and everyone who's having a mutually consented laugh is doing is indeed fine. Why do you have so much problems with that?

The problem was someone with a personal agenda against a player made up some fantasy story about a fellow eve player being TORTURED.

D.

Bear

Proud member of the Somalian Coast Guard Authority

Member and Juror of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#7457 - 2014-03-28 11:07:45 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
hi there.

Hi! Hows it going?

...calm down.
its a game,
remember?

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Danalee
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#7458 - 2014-03-28 11:09:07 UTC
Alp Khan wrote:
Do you know any CCP developer that felt compelled to send Erotica 1 pictures of a boyfriend/girlfriend? Or any CCP developer that felt compelled to write Erotica 1 on his/her body with mayonnaise?


Unless you are a JFG, read your own forums and than try to take the moral highground approach.

What anyone feels compelled to do isn't our business is it?

What goons make some people do sometimes (via their Forums/website, not through EVE online, they are quite nice there) isn't either but is really sick sometimes.

D.

Bear

Proud member of the Somalian Coast Guard Authority

Member and Juror of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Alp Khan
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7459 - 2014-03-28 11:09:27 UTC
Danalee wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
Danalee wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:

So why didn't the CEO of Widot tell everybody to get lost and refuse to kick E1?

E1 has stated that he was never kicked, he left of his own accord, Mynnna is saying he was kicked.

So taking what you have said, A high Level Director has gone to the CEO of Widot, told to kick him and they must of agreed otherwise E1 would still be a member.

Or of course he could of just been told by his CEO that he was getting kicked and then rushed to claim he was leaving just before the boot hit him on the ass Big smile


So as someone in the know, why would you first claim he was kicked and after realising everyone to know that to be impossible by game-mecanics invent yet another spin on the same BS?

And who says the CEO of Widot didn't do just that? Say NO.

Why are you trying soooo hard?

D.

Bear


So avoiding the answer, interesting.

Also, if what E1 is doing is okay and fine, then why leave?

What was the problem, nobody should of been upset with him because apparently what he is doing is fine


You are indeed avoiding to answer questions as to what your motives are and where your proof is. Thanks for confirming.
What E1, shedoo, ransommers, goons and everyone who's having a mutually consented laugh is doing is indeed fine. Why do you have so much problems with that?

The problem was someone with a personal agenda against a player made up some fantasy story about a fellow eve player being TORTURED.

D.

Bear


This is very similar to claiming criminals are prosecuted in the courts of law because you know, victims or victim families have ~personal agendas~ against culprits.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#7460 - 2014-03-28 11:10:01 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:

lol, emergent gamplay.....Shocked



Are you referencing the big Null Alliance east of Poland thats recently declared Sov in a system previously belonging to a brave young corp?

more about my corp having its isk "doubled" by the imf

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