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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#7141 - 2014-03-28 06:57:05 UTC
Mario Putzo wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
I do believe this thread has come to an effective close given today's events. Not that most of hasn't been redundant redundant already, but any posting after this point probably doesn't warrant the attention it's seeking.

So, I bid you all adieu, cuz I have things to do.


It is not over yet.

We have one lose end to take care of.

Since Ripard Tegs blog post, the EVE community as a whole who he represents, as well as CCP whom he also represents, has been dragged through the mud. Numerous sites within the MMO community have pounced upon this clearly misinformed and biased personal attack against Erotica 1.

The fact a CSM stepped out of line, instigated a witch hunt, dragged our community through the mud in the eyes of the community must be discussed.

I honestly believe that Ripard Teg should face a ban on his clear harassment of Erotica 1, and Sohkar for his own personal gain. His blog was entirely intended to drive up page views for his blog, under the false pretense of being a white knight in a situation that was admittedly absolved a month ago.

Clearly this is unacceptable conduct of a member of this community let alone a member of the CSM panel.


+1

At this point, I don't give a rat's ass what his ulterior motive was. He needs to be taken to task on this one.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Kristalll
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7142 - 2014-03-28 06:57:37 UTC
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:

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This is not my logic at all, you pulled this out of your arse. You are desperately reaching for excuses now, not unlike everyone else on this witch hunt. I didn't choose to be born and my parents have no control over my choices.


Sure it is. When you said a man slapping his wife for cheating because she put him in that situation. That is your logic.

E1 created and controlled all aspects of the encounter. It would be the exact same thing as me inviting you over to my house where me and my friends planned on kicking your arse. I dont think anyone could fault you should you get mad or broke someones nose fighting back.

Now had you showed up without being invited then I would offer you got what you deserved.

I dont think Sohkor got what he deserved, but I certainly hope E1 gets what he deserves.


In your example was there a sign outside that said "We're gonna **** you up" and the door was left easily accessible?

“Die trying” is the proudest human thing.
Big Lynx
#7143 - 2014-03-28 06:58:30 UTC
Kristalll wrote:
Big Lynx wrote:
sohkar wrote:
i decided to finally post after talking to the night with erotica 1 and would like to say that erotica 1 and i didnt not troll i never met him before this thing happened. The bonus roomed happened a month ago and not many people knew about it til the post that was made which if i had a choice i would not have agree to it since i thought everything would of blown over. I dont think erotica 1 should be banned but just because of that i dont think what he did was 100% right but i choose to do what i did and i said what i said he didnt tell me to say it. I was tired and angry but i just want to blow this over.


Good to read that. Ero, do we here something in that way from you as well? I mean, I think sokhar acts like a grown-up here. Do you?


They've been on teamspeak together live streamed for the last 3 hours.


Can we have a record of that?
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#7144 - 2014-03-28 06:59:24 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
someone entering Erotica 1's "Bonus Room" is not going to be sane and reasonable.

I guess drunk people generally aren't.

Oh god.
Kristalll
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7145 - 2014-03-28 06:59:49 UTC
Bloodmyst Ranwar wrote:
Hmmm, so no official response from CCP yet.


Well it's good to know there are no boundaries when it comes to issues such as this. Harassment, bullying and humiliation is accepted in Eve Online.

Will be interesting to see how scams of this nature escalates, considering CCP hasn't given any official response yet.



quit trying to relight the fire. Sohkar ended it himself.

“Die trying” is the proudest human thing.
Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
#7146 - 2014-03-28 07:01:10 UTC
Yeah could we have a link to the stream please if its still ongoing? thanks

Will gank for food
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7147 - 2014-03-28 07:01:18 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Mario Putzo wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
I do believe this thread has come to an effective close given today's events. Not that most of hasn't been redundant redundant already, but any posting after this point probably doesn't warrant the attention it's seeking.

So, I bid you all adieu, cuz I have things to do.


It is not over yet.

We have one lose end to take care of.

Since Ripard Tegs blog post, the EVE community as a whole who he represents, as well as CCP whom he also represents, has been dragged through the mud. Numerous sites within the MMO community have pounced upon this clearly misinformed and biased personal attack against Erotica 1.

The fact a CSM stepped out of line, instigated a witch hunt, dragged our community through the mud in the eyes of the community must be discussed.

I honestly believe that Ripard Teg should face a ban on his clear harassment of Erotica 1, and Sohkar for his own personal gain. His blog was entirely intended to drive up page views for his blog, under the false pretense of being a white knight in a situation that was admittedly absolved a month ago.

Clearly this is unacceptable conduct of a member of this community let alone a member of the CSM panel.


+1

At this point, I don't give a rat's ass what his ulterior motive was. He needs to be taken to task on this one.


Yeah but as we've been telling Ero's detractors, that's for CCP to determine. Are we now going to have a Riptard witch hunt? I won't have a bone of it.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
HollyShocker 2inthestink
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#7148 - 2014-03-28 07:01:53 UTC  |  Edited by: E-2C Hawkeye
Remiel Pollard wrote:
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:


Sure it is. When you said a man slapping his wife for cheating because she put him in that situation. That is your logic.


That was YOUR logic. YOUR logic was that Ero pressured Sokhar into an emotional reaction and somehow, that justifies it. I told you why it doesn't. Shifting the goalposts is a favourite fallacy of the irrational so before you are publicly noted as such, you might want to try paying attention.

And I thought you were leaving? Or were you waiting until I would go so you could 'respond' to my point without challenge?

Intellectual honesty. Get some.

Also, learn to quote. Seriously, all it takes is paying atten.... oh, wait, that's right, you aren't very good at that.

I was on my way out as I am now. Sorry if I decided to reply to your flawed logic. I dont need the last word or post.

3am here on my way to bed "NOT MY FAULT I MADE A MISTAKE ITS YOUR FAULT BECAUSE YOU WERE MAKING ME POST AND I SHOULDNT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR THE THINGS I DO AFTER ALL" Wow yea that sounds just as stupid as you trying to blame the victim.

E1 actions speak for itself and it is what it is. no amount of debate will change what was done no matter how you try to justify it.

Wrong is wrong.
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#7149 - 2014-03-28 07:01:59 UTC
Tarojan wrote:
Yeah could we have a link to the stream please if its still ongoing? thanks

Just ended, sorry.

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Kinis Deren
Mosquito Squadron
D0GS OF WAR
#7150 - 2014-03-28 07:03:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Kinis Deren
I'm in two minds here: I can't decide if the CODE. supporters are just dumb or running a well managed damage control campaign.

It isn't and has never been about the individuals involved. It is more about how far we want the EULA/TOS to apply when we use our in game identities in other communications media outside of the game.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7151 - 2014-03-28 07:03:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:


Sure it is. When you said a man slapping his wife for cheating because she put him in that situation. That is your logic.


That was YOUR logic. YOUR logic was that Ero pressured Sokhar into an emotional reaction and somehow, that justifies it. I told you why it doesn't. Shifting the goalposts is a favourite fallacy of the irrational so before you are publicly noted as such, you might want to try paying attention.

And I thought you were leaving? Or were you waiting until I would go so you could 'respond' to my point without challenge?

Intellectual honesty. Get some.

Also, learn to quote. Seriously, all it takes is paying atten.... oh, wait, that's right, you aren't very good at that.

I was on my way out as I am now. Sorry if I decided to reply to your flawed logic. I dont need the last word or post.

3am here on my way to bed "NOT MY FAULT I MADE A MISTAKE ITS YOUR FAULT BECAUSE YOU WERE MAKING ME POST AND I SHOULDNT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR THE THINGS I DO AFTER ALL" Wow yea that sounds just as stupid as you trying to blame the victim.

E1 actions speak for itself and it is what it is. no amount of debate will change what was done no matter how you try to justify it.

Wrong is wrong.


And Dunning-Kruger is not your friend.

If wrong is wrong, Sohkar takes a hit too. Or you're just scapegoating Ero. Do with that what you will, but cognitive dissonance is not your friend either.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Space Juden
Supermassive Potato Pancake
#7152 - 2014-03-28 07:04:22 UTC
Thus passed with the lonesome one months [and years];

his wisdom meanwhile increased, and caused him pain by its abundance.

One morning, however, he awoke ere the rosy dawn, and having meditated long on his couch, at last spake thus to his heart:

Why did I startle in my dream, so that I awoke? Did not a child come to me, carrying a mirror?

"O Zarathustra"—said the child unto me—"look at thyself in the mirror!"

But when I looked into the mirror, I shrieked, and my heart throbbed: for not myself did I see therein, but a devil's grimace and derision.

Verily, all too well do I understand the dream's portent and monition: my DOCTRINE is in danger; tares want to be called wheat!
Mine enemies have grown powerful and have disfigured the likeness of my doctrine, so that my dearest ones have to blush for the gifts that I gave them.

Lost are my friends; the hour hath come for me to seek my lost ones!—

With these words Zarathustra started up, not however like a person in anguish seeking relief, but rather like a seer and a singer whom the spirit inspireth. With amazement did his eagle and serpent gaze upon him: for a coming bliss overspread his countenance like the rosy dawn.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#7153 - 2014-03-28 07:04:23 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:

Yeah but as we've been telling Ero's detractors, that's for CCP to determine. Are we now going to have a Riptard witch hunt? I won't have a bone of it.


Of course not. My point is that now the eye needs to turn in his direction. As with everything, CCP is the final authority.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
#7154 - 2014-03-28 07:04:46 UTC
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:
Tarojan wrote:
Yeah could we have a link to the stream please if its still ongoing? thanks

Just ended, sorry.


ye I couldn't find it on my google search. Ah well maybe next time :D

Will gank for food
Mario Putzo
#7155 - 2014-03-28 07:05:00 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Mario Putzo wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
I do believe this thread has come to an effective close given today's events. Not that most of hasn't been redundant redundant already, but any posting after this point probably doesn't warrant the attention it's seeking.

So, I bid you all adieu, cuz I have things to do.


It is not over yet.

We have one lose end to take care of.

Since Ripard Tegs blog post, the EVE community as a whole who he represents, as well as CCP whom he also represents, has been dragged through the mud. Numerous sites within the MMO community have pounced upon this clearly misinformed and biased personal attack against Erotica 1.

The fact a CSM stepped out of line, instigated a witch hunt, dragged our community through the mud in the eyes of the community must be discussed.

I honestly believe that Ripard Teg should face a ban on his clear harassment of Erotica 1, and Sohkar for his own personal gain. His blog was entirely intended to drive up page views for his blog, under the false pretense of being a white knight in a situation that was admittedly absolved a month ago.

Clearly this is unacceptable conduct of a member of this community let alone a member of the CSM panel.


+1

At this point, I don't give a rat's ass what his ulterior motive was. He needs to be taken to task on this one.


Yeah but as we've been telling Ero's detractors, that's for CCP to determine. Are we now going to have a Riptard witch hunt? I won't have a bone of it.


Of course it is for CCP to determine, but if they didn't value the community opinion. Then why allow a 350+ page thread to sit atop page 1 of GD for 3 days?
Bloodmyst Ranwar
Menace of Morons
#7156 - 2014-03-28 07:05:07 UTC
Kristalll wrote:
Bloodmyst Ranwar wrote:
Hmmm, so no official response from CCP yet.


Well it's good to know there are no boundaries when it comes to issues such as this. Harassment, bullying and humiliation is accepted in Eve Online.

Will be interesting to see how scams of this nature escalates, considering CCP hasn't given any official response yet.



quit trying to relight the fire. Sohkar ended it himself.


I'm not relighting anything. It is what it is, I just wonder how far scams like this will be taken. Is it one of those things where we actually have to wait until someone physically gets hurt or files a law suit against CCP until anything is actually done?

As previously stated, Harrassment, bullying and humiliation is accepted.... what is next? How far is CCP willing to let this go for?
Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
#7157 - 2014-03-28 07:06:09 UTC
Oh and Erotica if you dont sort your passport out for next year IM GONNA STAND on a platform of the removal of concord from high sec.

Will gank for food
Morihei Akachi
Doomheim
#7158 - 2014-03-28 07:07:21 UTC
This isn't about S, so he can't "end it". He is merely the latest in a series of guys lured into the bonus room and then baited, for hours, until he snaps. That he looks back now and sees it in a milder light is totally irrelevant to an assessment of what E1 is doing. Has done. Again and again. I stand by my assessment of blank sadism. Ripard Teg did the right thing in calling him out on it: it needs to be stopped.

"Enduring", "restrained" and "ample" as designations for starship components are foreign to the genre of high-tech science fiction and don’t belong in Eve Online. (And as for “scoped” …)
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7159 - 2014-03-28 07:07:24 UTC
Mario Putzo wrote:


Of course it is for CCP to determine, but if they didn't value the community opinion. Then why allow a 350+ page thread to sit atop page 1 of GD for 3 days?


Mostly just to let the angry mob vent their anger so that when CCP finally does say something, they'll have blown most of their steam.

However, I agree that CCP's attention needs to be on the journalistic integrity of Ripard Teg but I don't agree that this thread is alive and well for the sake of his vilification as well now.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
HollyShocker 2inthestink
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#7160 - 2014-03-28 07:07:28 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:


Sure it is. When you said a man slapping his wife for cheating because she put him in that situation. That is your logic.


That was YOUR logic. YOUR logic was that Ero pressured Sokhar into an emotional reaction and somehow, that justifies it. I told you why it doesn't. Shifting the goalposts is a favourite fallacy of the irrational so before you are publicly noted as such, you might want to try paying attention.

And I thought you were leaving? Or were you waiting until I would go so you could 'respond' to my point without challenge?

Intellectual honesty. Get some.

Also, learn to quote. Seriously, all it takes is paying atten.... oh, wait, that's right, you aren't very good at that.

Did the pot just call me a kettle?


No, your intellectual superior just pointed out your logical fallacy. I might point out that you just made another one called a strawman.

LMAO thats a whole other debate. I hope I NEVER see the day when I need a game forum to feel superior over anyone.