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Genseric Tollaris
Hard Cog Industry
#7121 - 2014-03-28 06:44:18 UTC
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
Basically, people snapped off for a massive witch hunt without even asking the victim's opinion on the matter.


And I think Ripard owes Sohkar an apology at the very least.
Mario Putzo
#7122 - 2014-03-28 06:44:20 UTC
Time to white knight the white knights.

Ive been sharpening my pitchfork just for this day!

Ripard Teg! What say you, cur?
Big Lynx
#7123 - 2014-03-28 06:44:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Big Lynx
sohkar wrote:
i decided to finally post after talking to the night with erotica 1 and would like to say that erotica 1 and i didnt not troll i never met him before this thing happened. The bonus roomed happened a month ago and not many people knew about it til the post that was made which if i had a choice i would not have agree to it since i thought everything would of blown over. I dont think erotica 1 should be banned but just because of that i dont think what he did was 100% right but i choose to do what i did and i said what i said he didnt tell me to say it. I was tired and angry but i just want to blow this over.


Good to read that. Ero, do we here something in that way from you as well? I mean, I think sokhar acts like a grown-up here. Do you?
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7124 - 2014-03-28 06:45:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
I do believe this thread has come to an effective close given today's events. Not that most of it hasn't been redundant already, but any vilification of Ero after this point probably doesn't warrant the attention it's seeking.

So, I bid you all adieu, cuz I have things to do.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#7125 - 2014-03-28 06:46:53 UTC
This thread went from being like the latest Battlestar Galactica to something more akin to the original Lost in Space.

Still... Judy was pretty hot....

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Big Lynx
#7126 - 2014-03-28 06:47:30 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
I do believe this thread has come to an effective close given today's events. Not that most of it hasn't been redundant already, but any vilification of Ero after this point probably doesn't warrant the attention it's seeking.

So, I bid you all adieu, cuz I have things to do.


After 3 1/2 days of trolling you have suddenly things to do. Lelz
E-2C Hawkeye
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#7127 - 2014-03-28 06:48:48 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:

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This is not my logic at all, you pulled this out of your arse. You are desperately reaching for excuses now, not unlike everyone else on this witch hunt. I didn't choose to be born and my parents have no control over my choices.


Sure it is. When you said a man slapping his wife for cheating because she put him in that situation. That is your logic.

E1 created and controlled all aspects of the encounter. It would be the exact same thing as me inviting you over to my house where me and my friends planned on kicking your arse. I dont think anyone could fault you should you get mad or broke someones nose fighting back.

Now had you showed up without being invited then I would offer you got what you deserved.

I dont think Sohkor got what he deserved, but I certainly hope E1 gets what he deserves.
Tear Jar
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#7128 - 2014-03-28 06:49:06 UTC
Quote of the topic from Sohkar:

"I got Scammed. I got pissed. I got over it. Why can't everyone else?"
Lady Areola Fappington
#7129 - 2014-03-28 06:50:14 UTC
Genseric Tollaris wrote:
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
Basically, people snapped off for a massive witch hunt without even asking the victim's opinion on the matter.


And I think Ripard owes Sohkar an apology at the very least.



I agree. Hell, I'll step up now and apologize to Sohkar. Sorry if I came off like a jerk and implied you had a hand in starting all this BS. That wasn't very cool of me, I'm human and I make mistakes too. If you ever feel like going on a roam and blowing up some miners, let me know.

7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided. --Eve New Player Guide

Muestereate
Minions LLC
#7130 - 2014-03-28 06:50:33 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Gogela wrote:
This thread has gone completely off the rails.

IB4L Roll

Threads like these can acquire a life of their own.

Much like a chicken, they can run around for quite a while after their head has been cut off.


Damage control, must end thread now, post personal attacks, off topic and without content. break as many rules as you can.

Actually, THe reason people would put up with this abuse is because at some point they were treated in a similar manner or were told to quit crying or whining. Sent the message they count for nothing as children. Look around at the miserable people around you. What kind of beliefs do you think they might hold that you don't want? Your in danger of this sort of threadnaught winding up in your mind as your lives unwind and then you'll be old and alone and wonder why. You'll rock on your chair, cuss the world and people that love you will keep walking away because you won't let anybody in because EVE online in the early 21st century told you that if you express how you feel your bad.
Bloodmyst Ranwar
Menace of Morons
#7131 - 2014-03-28 06:51:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Bloodmyst Ranwar
Hmmm, so no official response from CCP yet.


Well it's good to know there are no boundaries when it comes to issues such as this. Harassment, bullying and humiliation is accepted in Eve Online.

Will be interesting to see how scams of this nature escalates, considering CCP hasn't given any official response yet.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#7132 - 2014-03-28 06:51:52 UTC
Genseric Tollaris wrote:
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
Basically, people snapped off for a massive witch hunt without even asking the victim's opinion on the matter.


And I think Ripard owes Sohkar an apology at the very least.


Sohkar? He owes Sohkar, E1, Massively, Reddit, everyone in this thread including his meat puppets, and CCP themselves an apology.

However much he might(and probably will) try to cry about good intentions, he never even contacted sohkar before going on this little crusade of his.

In every way at this point, he and he alone is the villain. If I were CCP, I'd be seriously thinking about IP banning his ass, because he's abused his position as a CSM, and demonstrated a pure disregard for the reputation of the game and it's players with his zealotry.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7133 - 2014-03-28 06:51:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:


Sure it is. When you said a man slapping his wife for cheating because she put him in that situation. That is your logic.


That was YOUR logic. YOUR logic was that Ero pressured Sokhar into an emotional reaction and somehow, that justifies it. I told you why it doesn't. Shifting the goalposts is a favourite fallacy of the irrational so before you are publicly noted as such, you might want to try paying attention.

And I thought you were leaving? Or were you waiting until I would go so you could 'respond' to my point without challenge?

Intellectual honesty. Get some.

Also, learn to quote. Seriously, all it takes is paying atten.... oh, wait, that's right, you aren't very good at that.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#7134 - 2014-03-28 06:53:23 UTC
I feel absolved.

Big smile

Also...

::smug::

I am glad that I finally got to meet sohkar. At least he is straight-forward and doesn't hold back.

I also feel that as an adult, I am able to handle with composure the things that sohkar said in a moment of distress, a common thing that happens in EvE. Much like the adrenaline rush in a good PvP fight.

I remember the first time I was ganked. Shocked. To be honest, I took a Xanax, and sat on Niarja gate...until the ganker convo'd me.

"Are you okay?"

"Sure, just shocked. My first 8 months worth, gone, in a flash."

Wallet flash.

"There is a hundred million. Go get back on your feet."

Between that hundred million isk, I made my way back up, missioning and incursioning, and am now creating content with other "bad guys" and "space pirates."

Is that not why we are here?

To entertain?

Thank you, Ripard. You proved you spent time not representing the community properly.

A win for emergent gameplay.

Blink

Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.

Mario Putzo
#7135 - 2014-03-28 06:53:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Mario Putzo
Remiel Pollard wrote:
I do believe this thread has come to an effective close given today's events. Not that most of hasn't been redundant redundant already, but any posting after this point probably doesn't warrant the attention it's seeking.

So, I bid you all adieu, cuz I have things to do.


It is not over yet.

We have one lose end to take care of.

Since Ripard Tegs blog post, the EVE community as a whole who he represents, as well as CCP whom he also represents, has been dragged through the mud. Numerous sites within the MMO community have pounced upon this clearly misinformed and biased personal attack against Erotica 1.

The fact a CSM stepped out of line, instigated a witch hunt, dragged our community through the mud in the eyes of the greater MMO community must be discussed.

I honestly believe that Ripard Teg should face a ban on his clear harassment of Erotica 1, and Sohkar for his own personal gain. His blog was entirely intended to drive up page views for his blog, under the false pretense of being a white knight in a situation that was admittedly absolved a month ago.

Clearly this is unacceptable conduct of a member of this community let alone a member of the CSM panel.

Additionally there were alleged reports of the FBI and major news media outlets being notified of this situation, entirely predicated upon false information, that was never even substantiated by the victim, whom Ripard Teg couldn't even bother to converse with before publishing his slanderous article vilifying Erotica 1 and the "degenerate" underbelly of the EVE community.
E-2C Hawkeye
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#7136 - 2014-03-28 06:54:00 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:


Sure it is. When you said a man slapping his wife for cheating because she put him in that situation. That is your logic.


That was YOUR logic. YOUR logic was that Ero pressured Sokhar into an emotional reaction and somehow, that justifies it. I told you why it doesn't. Shifting the goalposts is a favourite fallacy of the irrational so before you are publicly noted as such, you might want to try paying attention.

And I thought you were leaving? Or were you waiting until I would go so you could 'respond' to my point without challenge?

Intellectual honesty. Get some.

Also, learn to quote. Seriously, all it takes is paying atten.... oh, wait, that's right, you aren't very good at that.

Did the pot just call me a kettle?
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#7137 - 2014-03-28 06:54:46 UTC
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
Genseric Tollaris wrote:
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
Basically, people snapped off for a massive witch hunt without even asking the victim's opinion on the matter.


And I think Ripard owes Sohkar an apology at the very least.



I agree. Hell, I'll step up now and apologize to Sohkar. Sorry if I came off like a jerk and implied you had a hand in starting all this BS. That wasn't very cool of me, I'm human and I make mistakes too. If you ever feel like going on a roam and blowing up some miners, let me know.


You know what? Likewise. I've been halfheartedly calling for his being banned as a juxtaposition to this ludicrous lynching, but that's not meant in any real way either.

You showed class in the twitch stream, bro. If your old corp won't let you back in, give us a holler at ROC. I'll even admit that some of us are miners.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7138 - 2014-03-28 06:54:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Big Lynx wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
I do believe this thread has come to an effective close given today's events. Not that most of it hasn't been redundant already, but any vilification of Ero after this point probably doesn't warrant the attention it's seeking.

So, I bid you all adieu, cuz I have things to do.


After 3 1/2 days of trolling you have suddenly things to do. Lelz


Actually, I don't, I never left. I suspected E2 was lying when he said he had so I pretended to. And he did exactly what I thought he would :)

Also, while I'll confess to a variety of troll posts on my part, I've mostly been presenting carefully considered counter arguments to bad ones.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Kristalll
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7139 - 2014-03-28 06:55:30 UTC
Big Lynx wrote:
sohkar wrote:
i decided to finally post after talking to the night with erotica 1 and would like to say that erotica 1 and i didnt not troll i never met him before this thing happened. The bonus roomed happened a month ago and not many people knew about it til the post that was made which if i had a choice i would not have agree to it since i thought everything would of blown over. I dont think erotica 1 should be banned but just because of that i dont think what he did was 100% right but i choose to do what i did and i said what i said he didnt tell me to say it. I was tired and angry but i just want to blow this over.


Good to read that. Ero, do we here something in that way from you as well? I mean, I think sokhar acts like a grown-up here. Do you?


They've been on teamspeak together live streamed for the last 3 hours.

“Die trying” is the proudest human thing.

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7140 - 2014-03-28 06:55:39 UTC
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:


Sure it is. When you said a man slapping his wife for cheating because she put him in that situation. That is your logic.


That was YOUR logic. YOUR logic was that Ero pressured Sokhar into an emotional reaction and somehow, that justifies it. I told you why it doesn't. Shifting the goalposts is a favourite fallacy of the irrational so before you are publicly noted as such, you might want to try paying attention.

And I thought you were leaving? Or were you waiting until I would go so you could 'respond' to my point without challenge?

Intellectual honesty. Get some.

Also, learn to quote. Seriously, all it takes is paying atten.... oh, wait, that's right, you aren't very good at that.

Did the pot just call me a kettle?


No, your intellectual superior just pointed out your logical fallacy. I might point out that you just made another one called a strawman.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104