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E-2C Hawkeye
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#7061 - 2014-03-28 06:03:11 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

I disagree. Harm is not purely physical. Harm can be also pyschological. Harm doesn't have to be permanent, it can be temporary. If someone spits on you in the street and you go home and shower was no harm done? If someone deliberately makes your day miserable at work and you go home and later feel better was no harm done? In both cases harm was done, it was just not permanent and so you couldn't find a remedy in a court for that but its still harm.



Be silent you hateful yardle-curdler

You harm us all with your souless, tastless, utterly utterly pointless nonsense

This matter is at an end

And yes, I am angry

Because all you do is cause trouble and grizzle at people

You unpleasant wretch


speaking of bans when were you allowed back Sad
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#7062 - 2014-03-28 06:03:11 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

I disagree. Harm is not purely physical. Harm can be also pyschological. Harm doesn't have to be permanent, it can be temporary. If someone spits on you in the street and you go home and shower was no harm done? If someone deliberately makes your day miserable at work and you go home and later feel better was no harm done? In both cases harm was done, it was just not permanent and so you couldn't find a remedy in a court for that but its still harm.



Be silent you hateful yardle-curdler

You harm us all with your souless, tastless, utterly utterly pointless nonsense

This matter is at an end

And yes, I am angry

Because all you do is cause trouble and grizzle at people

You unpleasant wretch

2. Be respectful toward others at all times.

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4. Personal attacks are prohibited.

Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.22. Post constructively.

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Oh shut your face

God I hate your garbage so so so much

I DONT CARE

DO YOU HEAR

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Morihei Akachi
Doomheim
#7063 - 2014-03-28 06:03:45 UTC
Kristalll wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Kristalll wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

Yeah I'm driven by pure hate. That's why I said I don't believe anyone should be banned, only safeguards put in place. That's pure hate :)

IMO you're driven by a desire to defend your methods of RL harming people for your own sick self gratification and I think that part of you is rather despicable.



Except NOBODY was harmed.

I disagree. Harm is not purely physical. Harm can be also pyschological. Harm doesn't have to be permanent, it can be temporary. If someone spits on you in the street and you go home and shower was no harm done? If someone deliberately makes your day miserable at work and you go home and later feel better was no harm done? In both cases harm was done, it was just not permanent and so you couldn't find a remedy in a court for that but its still harm.


Well, when the so called "victim" comes and says "yeah, it wasn't a big deal" doesn't that kind of say there was no harm done?

No, it doesn't. Read Infinity's post again. "Harm doesn't have to be permanent … (in order to be real)"

"Enduring", "restrained" and "ample" as designations for starship components are foreign to the genre of high-tech science fiction and don’t belong in Eve Online. (And as for “scoped” …)
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7064 - 2014-03-28 06:04:32 UTC
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Morihei Akachi wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Mara Rinn wrote:
You are committing the sin of "Argument through Repetition."

Isn't everyone?

Kind of hard to avoid at this end of a 350+ page thread. :) But look: I'll confess, if it will make Remiel happy. I hate what E1 does. i really hate it. I don't think he should be allowed to seek out EvE players to do it to any more.


It makes me happy when people are honest.

Do you think Ero should be banned just because you hate him?

He should be held accountable for his actions. Should CCP deem he broke the rules then I say let the justice be swift.

You are trying to use peoples dis-like for E1 as a reason that he shouldnt be held accountable for his actions..."oh everyone hates E1 so thats why they want him banned".....So no thats not why people are asking for justice.

They want to see him held accountable for his actions and know that his type of behavior will not be accepted by this community.

Has zero to do with like or dis-like. I would expect the same had Chibbra done what he done, hell any one for that matter.


No, I'm not. I'm bringing to account the point that so many are calling for Ero's ban, but no one is calling for Sohkar's as well on the same terms. I want to see Sohkar held to account for his hate speech and threats of violence. Are you saying his behaviour should be accepted by the community?

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#7065 - 2014-03-28 06:05:15 UTC
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:


speaking of bans when were you allowed back Sad


Wasnt away

And everything I feel about IZ goes double for you, smelly little troll-skin

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7066 - 2014-03-28 06:05:24 UTC
Morihei Akachi wrote:

No, it doesn't. Read Infinity's post again. "Harm doesn't have to be permanent … (in order to be real)"


Infinity can be ignored by virtue of being a known waffler and hate monger, but also, because she's completely wrong until she proves her assertions.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Lady Areola Fappington
#7067 - 2014-03-28 06:05:27 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

I disagree. Harm is not purely physical. Harm can be also pyschological. Harm doesn't have to be permanent, it can be temporary. If someone spits on you in the street and you go home and shower was no harm done? If someone deliberately makes your day miserable at work and you go home and later feel better was no harm done? In both cases harm was done, it was just not permanent and so you couldn't find a remedy in a court for that but its still harm.



Be silent you hateful yardle-curdler

You harm us all with your souless, tastless, utterly utterly pointless nonsense

This matter is at an end

And yes, I am angry

Because all you do is cause trouble and grizzle at people

You unpleasant wretch

2. Be respectful toward others at all times.

The purpose of the EVE Online forums is to provide a platform for exchange of ideas, and a venue for the discussion of EVE Online. Occasionally there will be conflicts that arise when people voice opinions. Forum users are expected to be courteous when disagreeing with others.

4. Personal attacks are prohibited.

Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.22. Post constructively.

Negative feedback can be very useful to further improve EVE Online provided that it is presented in a civil and factual manner. All users are encouraged to honestly express their feelings regarding EVE Online and how it can be improved. Posts that are non-constructive, insulting or in breach of the rules will be deleted regardless of how valid the ideas behind them may be. Users are also reminded that posting with a lack of content also constitutes non-constructive posting.1ST OFFENCE – WARNING
2ND OFFENCE – 14 DAY SUSPENSION
3RD OFFENCE – 30 DAY SUSPENSION
4TH OFFENCE – 90 DAY SUSPENSION
5TH OFFENCE – 180 DAY SUSPENSION
6+ OFFENCES – 180 DAY SUSPENSION (OR PERMANENT BAN IF TRANSGRESSION IS SEVERE ENOUGH)


Oh shut your face

God I hate your garbage so so so much

I DONT CARE

DO YOU HEAR



Ramona dear I caught Billy running around the thread with your underwear on his head. You go take care of that 'fore you get in trouble again. We'd miss you if you went on vacation!

7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided. --Eve New Player Guide
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7068 - 2014-03-28 06:06:29 UTC
Yuto Alduin wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Yuto Alduin wrote:


What points? You have made none other than blindly throwing around accusations that everyone here who doesn't agree with you IS FULL OF SO MUCH HATE.


Then you haven't even read my points because that's not what I said at all.


Can't read what isn't there. Can I?


It's there. You probably did read it. Ignorance is not an excuse though.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7069 - 2014-03-28 06:06:47 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

I disagree. Harm is not purely physical. Harm can be also pyschological. Harm doesn't have to be permanent, it can be temporary. If someone spits on you in the street and you go home and shower was no harm done? If someone deliberately makes your day miserable at work and you go home and later feel better was no harm done? In both cases harm was done, it was just not permanent and so you couldn't find a remedy in a court for that but its still harm.



Be silent you hateful yardle-curdler

You harm us all with your souless, tastless, utterly utterly pointless nonsense

This matter is at an end

And yes, I am angry

Because all you do is cause trouble and grizzle at people

You unpleasant wretch

2. Be respectful toward others at all times.

The purpose of the EVE Online forums is to provide a platform for exchange of ideas, and a venue for the discussion of EVE Online. Occasionally there will be conflicts that arise when people voice opinions. Forum users are expected to be courteous when disagreeing with others.

4. Personal attacks are prohibited.

Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.22. Post constructively.

Negative feedback can be very useful to further improve EVE Online provided that it is presented in a civil and factual manner. All users are encouraged to honestly express their feelings regarding EVE Online and how it can be improved. Posts that are non-constructive, insulting or in breach of the rules will be deleted regardless of how valid the ideas behind them may be. Users are also reminded that posting with a lack of content also constitutes non-constructive posting.1ST OFFENCE – WARNING
2ND OFFENCE – 14 DAY SUSPENSION
3RD OFFENCE – 30 DAY SUSPENSION
4TH OFFENCE – 90 DAY SUSPENSION
5TH OFFENCE – 180 DAY SUSPENSION
6+ OFFENCES – 180 DAY SUSPENSION (OR PERMANENT BAN IF TRANSGRESSION IS SEVERE ENOUGH)


Oh shut your face

God I hate your garbage so so so much

I DONT CARE

DO YOU HEAR

2. Be respectful toward others at all times.

The purpose of the EVE Online forums is to provide a platform for exchange of ideas, and a venue for the discussion of EVE Online. Occasionally there will be conflicts that arise when people voice opinions. Forum users are expected to be courteous when disagreeing with others.

4. Personal attacks are prohibited.

Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.22. Post constructively.

Negative feedback can be very useful to further improve EVE Online provided that it is presented in a civil and factual manner. All users are encouraged to honestly express their feelings regarding EVE Online and how it can be improved. Posts that are non-constructive, insulting or in breach of the rules will be deleted regardless of how valid the ideas behind them may be. Users are also reminded that posting with a lack of content also constitutes non-constructive posting.1ST OFFENCE – WARNING
2ND OFFENCE – 14 DAY SUSPENSION
3RD OFFENCE – 30 DAY SUSPENSION
4TH OFFENCE – 90 DAY SUSPENSION
5TH OFFENCE – 180 DAY SUSPENSION
6+ OFFENCES – 180 DAY SUSPENSION (OR PERMANENT BAN IF TRANSGRESSION IS SEVERE ENOUGH)

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#7070 - 2014-03-28 06:08:00 UTC
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:



Ramona dear I caught Billy running around the thread with your underwear on his head. You go take care of that 'fore you get in trouble again. We'd miss you if you went on vacation!


Its a wonder he didnt suffocate

That latex can be constraining

And the pins cant have been pleasant

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7071 - 2014-03-28 06:08:20 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:

I'm a witless waffler and CCP will ignore everything I say so everyone else might as well too.


There it is, straight from the horse's mouth. Don't feed the troll.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#7072 - 2014-03-28 06:08:51 UTC
Spamming? Even you aren't that lame, IZ. White knight harder, please. After 350 pages of this, we deserve better.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#7073 - 2014-03-28 06:08:51 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
spam


Your hypocrisy is endless

It really is

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Yuto Alduin
Doomheim
#7074 - 2014-03-28 06:09:19 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Yuto Alduin wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Yuto Alduin wrote:


What points? You have made none other than blindly throwing around accusations that everyone here who doesn't agree with you IS FULL OF SO MUCH HATE.


Then you haven't even read my points because that's not what I said at all.


Can't read what isn't there. Can I?


It's there. You probably did read it. Ignorance is not an excuse though.


Same goes for you and the many posts of good points you seem to have selectively missed.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#7075 - 2014-03-28 06:10:00 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:



Ramona dear I caught Billy running around the thread with your underwear on his head. You go take care of that 'fore you get in trouble again. We'd miss you if you went on vacation!


Its a wonder he didnt suffocate

That latex can be constraining

And the pins cant have been pleasant

Yes, it could have cause him permanent psychological harm, and we all know where that leads now... time for a new threadnaught!

View the latest EVE Online developments and other game related news and gameplay by visiting Ranger 1 Presents: Virtual Realms.
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#7076 - 2014-03-28 06:10:00 UTC
This thread has gone completely off the rails.

IB4L Roll

Signatures should be used responsibly...
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#7077 - 2014-03-28 06:12:44 UTC
Gogela wrote:
This thread has gone completely off the rails.

IB4L Roll

Threads like these can acquire a life of their own.

Much like a chicken, they can run around for quite a while after their head has been cut off.

View the latest EVE Online developments and other game related news and gameplay by visiting Ranger 1 Presents: Virtual Realms.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7078 - 2014-03-28 06:12:50 UTC
Yuto Alduin wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Yuto Alduin wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Yuto Alduin wrote:


What points? You have made none other than blindly throwing around accusations that everyone here who doesn't agree with you IS FULL OF SO MUCH HATE.


Then you haven't even read my points because that's not what I said at all.


Can't read what isn't there. Can I?


It's there. You probably did read it. Ignorance is not an excuse though.


Same goes for you and the many posts of good points you seem to have selectively missed.


I've read everything, and addressed every point worth addressing, both for and against. I have selectively missed nothing, I have selectively chosen not to address points made that are actually good points, both for and against.

But I wouldn't expect you to understand why bias makes for a bad position of argument.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
E-2C Hawkeye
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#7079 - 2014-03-28 06:12:56 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
[quote=Remiel Pollard]
Kind of hard to avoid at this end of a 350+ page thread. :) But look: I'll confess, if it will make Remiel happy. I hate what E1 does. i really hate it. I don't think he should be allowed to seek out EvE players to do it to any more.


It makes me happy when people are honest.

Do you think Ero should be banned just because you hate him?[

No, I'm not. I'm bringing to account the point that so many are calling for Ero's ban, but no one is calling for Sohkar's as well on the same terms. I want to see Sohkar held to account for his hate speech and threats of violence. Are you saying his behaviour should be accepted by the community?

Should CCP deem him guilty of breaking the rules then I would be ok with it. However his actions are a direct reaction to the situation he was placed in by E1.

Should someone break into my my house at night I should not be held accountable if I have to kill the guy to protect my family and kids. His actions dictated my response. Would be like a guy trying to sue because he broke his leg trying to steal your tires from your car while you were driving it.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7080 - 2014-03-28 06:14:27 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Gogela wrote:
This thread has gone completely off the rails.

IB4L Roll

Threads like these can acquire a life of their own.

Much like a chicken, they can run around for quite a while after their head has been cut off.


I disagree. I think this thread has been on rails the whole time. Someone's gotta be on some serious hardcore narcotics to so blatantly blow things this far out of proportion and have so little perspective.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104