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Muestereate
Minions LLC
#7021 - 2014-03-28 05:39:45 UTC
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
Mara Rinn wrote:
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
Muestereate wrote:


For A fee of 12 billion isk I will do a deeper examination and provide a report but only to sohkar


That wasn't like, an offer to exchange real life goods or services for ISK, was it? Coz, that's against EULA.


You're allowed to exchange in-game services for in-game currency.



True, but a report on someone's mental health in depth enough to hold a diagnosis of StockHolm Syndrome would take at least 3, if not more, in person-in-depth psychoanalyst sessions to accurately confirm.

I mean, unless he, or anyone else were trying to make this diagnosis via online, in-game interactions. That would run the gamut between "Pretty silly" and "Most definitely a felony" depending on jurisdiction.



Are you offering to triple my request? Actually I have a ten photo social media personality test that can tell me which action blockbuster victim you or anyone else most closely resembles. :) 3 exams are just for the insurance frauds. I'm not one of the scammers. I really do like that you picked up that I could fall somewhere in between instead of the either or, for or against stuff that this forum degrades to so often. lean toward silly if you willBlink
Kristalll
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7022 - 2014-03-28 05:40:11 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Navi Annages wrote:
Ripard Teg where have you run off to?

You come into this thread specifically to poke at the fire a few times and then run away when your presence is requested on a TS3 server with Erotica 1 and Sohkar Live on twich.

I'm unsure as to exactly what kinda of mongering low life CSM you really are for posting such a wonderful piece of negative journalism. http://evenews24.com/2014/03/25/jesters-trek-the-bonus-round/

If this is what we can expect from current CSM's trying to actively damage the eve community then I honestly propose that CSM Ripard Teg be removed from his position BEFORE the upcoming CSM POLLS.

In my opinion Ripard Teg has overstepped his position of power in an attempt to disrupt and or influence the eve community for his own agenda.

Ripard Teg calls for Bans on Erotica 1 and any escrow agents involved.

Then in response to overuse of his power he should walk away from CSM in shame either by choice of resignation or by forceful removal. God wills it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8-JfK-wwFU

Sorry but the issue is not done and dusted.

What was done was against the rules (harassment), damaged CCP's reputation (only have to check the MMO boards to see the response), and if nothing is done to prevent this sort of thing occurring then it will happen again and potentially someone could be harmed, either one of the perpetrators in RL or the victim through self harm.

More disturbingly one of the perpetrators stated in this thread that they're actively competing against other people also doing the same thing and so they're being forced to 'outdo' each other which means the abuse will take the slippery slope of stupidity and potentially become much more serious with more serious consequences.

If CCP does not act on their duty of care towards their playerbase now they are aware of the problem then they could be liable for a portion of any damages if someone did sue. CCP gains nothing but negative publicity and the potential to be sued if they don't act.

They cannot now claim they were not knowledgeable about the activity as a defense.



So what you're saying is you haven't heard Sohkar's statement?

“Die trying” is the proudest human thing.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7023 - 2014-03-28 05:40:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
Xuixien wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
-beating a dead horse-


Cling to those straws you're reaching for. Cling to them.

They're facts.


They are in fact not. They are opinions that people have (badly) tried to back up by quoting the EULA and the dictionary. Fail.

No they're facts. Substantiated by the recording and admissions by the perpetrators in this thread. The responsibility for CCP to exercise a duty of care is a well established legal requirement. Vicarious liability is a well established legal principle.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Mario Putzo
#7024 - 2014-03-28 05:41:19 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Mario Putzo wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

Sorry but the issue is not done and dusted.

What was done was against the rules (harassment), damaged CCP's reputation (only have to check the MMO boards to see the response), and if nothing is done to prevent this sort of thing occurring then it will happen again and potentially someone could be harmed, either one of the perpetrators in RL or the victim through self harm.

More disturbingly one of the perpetrators stated in this thread that they're actively competing against other people also doing the same thing and so they're being forced to 'outdo' each other which means the abuse will take the slippery slope of stupidity and potentially become much more serious with more serious consequences.

If CCP does not act on their duty of care towards their playerbase now they are aware of the problem then they could be liable for a portion of any damages if someone did sue. CCP gains nothing but negative publicity and the potential to be sued if they don't act.

They cannot now claim they were not knowledgeable about the activity as a defense.



What ruined CCP's reputation (if at all) was the Jester Trek article being picked up and spread around the MMO community. An article that tonight we found was entirely baseless in its positions. Sohkar has gone on the record saying as much. He has also stated that he doesn't appreciate the article Ripard wrote, nor does he appreciate this 300 page thread about it.

Sohkar mentioned that he got over the loss of his assets already, he got back on his feet made some ISK and was happy and content playing with his corpmates and doing whatever it is he does within this game, and this all changed once Ripard took it upon himself, without Sohkars permission, to make a big old article about how awful Sohkars experience was, an article that went softly viral through the MMO community.

Erotica 1 and scamming didn't tarnish CCP's reputation, Ripard Tegs completely off base article did that. An article he had absolutely no business writing at all.


Reporting something factual doesn't harm CCP's reputation. The act that was reported did.


There is nothing factual about it. Did you miss the stream this evening?

But lets buy into a blog post Where Erotica 1's name was dragged through the mud, and that Sohkar was used as a pawn by Ripard Teg to carry out a personal vendetta against Erotica 1 and the Minerbumping community as a whole.
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7025 - 2014-03-28 05:41:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Cannibal Kane
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Navi Annages wrote:
Ripard Teg where have you run off to?

You come into this thread specifically to poke at the fire a few times and then run away when your presence is requested on a TS3 server with Erotica 1 and Sohkar Live on twich.

I'm unsure as to exactly what kinda of mongering low life CSM you really are for posting such a wonderful piece of negative journalism. http://evenews24.com/2014/03/25/jesters-trek-the-bonus-round/

If this is what we can expect from current CSM's trying to actively damage the eve community then I honestly propose that CSM Ripard Teg be removed from his position BEFORE the upcoming CSM POLLS.

In my opinion Ripard Teg has overstepped his position of power in an attempt to disrupt and or influence the eve community for his own agenda.

Ripard Teg calls for Bans on Erotica 1 and any escrow agents involved.

Then in response to overuse of his power he should walk away from CSM in shame either by choice of resignation or by forceful removal. God wills it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8-JfK-wwFU

Sorry but the issue is not done and dusted.

What was done was against the rules (harassment), damaged CCP's reputation (only have to check the MMO boards to see the response), and if nothing is done to prevent this sort of thing occurring then it will happen again and potentially someone could be harmed, either one of the perpetrators in RL or the victim through self harm.

More disturbingly one of the perpetrators stated in this thread that they're actively competing against other people also doing the same thing and so they're being forced to 'outdo' each other which means the abuse will take the slippery slope of stupidity and potentially become much more serious with more serious consequences.

If CCP does not act on their duty of care towards their playerbase now they are aware of the problem then they could be liable for a portion of any damages if someone did sue. CCP gains nothing but negative publicity and the potential to be sued if they don't act.

They cannot now claim they were not knowledgeable about the activity as a defense.



So let me ask you this question...

I know what goes on there.. so do many others who have read the thing on these forums linking to previous Bonus Rooms.

Should they be banned for knowing and not saying anything?
Should I be banned because I was in the same BU TS Server a few channels down in my Corp Channel?

If broad strokes need to be taken they sure as hell need to make sure they catch all you idiots that have posted and fuelled this personal attack.

I have seen so many true intentions come out here. So much for the so called Higher IQ players of EVE. And I am talking about people on both sides of the fence.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7026 - 2014-03-28 05:44:09 UTC
Cannibal Kane wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Navi Annages wrote:
Ripard Teg where have you run off to?

You come into this thread specifically to poke at the fire a few times and then run away when your presence is requested on a TS3 server with Erotica 1 and Sohkar Live on twich.

I'm unsure as to exactly what kinda of mongering low life CSM you really are for posting such a wonderful piece of negative journalism. http://evenews24.com/2014/03/25/jesters-trek-the-bonus-round/

If this is what we can expect from current CSM's trying to actively damage the eve community then I honestly propose that CSM Ripard Teg be removed from his position BEFORE the upcoming CSM POLLS.

In my opinion Ripard Teg has overstepped his position of power in an attempt to disrupt and or influence the eve community for his own agenda.

Ripard Teg calls for Bans on Erotica 1 and any escrow agents involved.

Then in response to overuse of his power he should walk away from CSM in shame either by choice of resignation or by forceful removal. God wills it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8-JfK-wwFU

Sorry but the issue is not done and dusted.

What was done was against the rules (harassment), damaged CCP's reputation (only have to check the MMO boards to see the response), and if nothing is done to prevent this sort of thing occurring then it will happen again and potentially someone could be harmed, either one of the perpetrators in RL or the victim through self harm.

More disturbingly one of the perpetrators stated in this thread that they're actively competing against other people also doing the same thing and so they're being forced to 'outdo' each other which means the abuse will take the slippery slope of stupidity and potentially become much more serious with more serious consequences.

If CCP does not act on their duty of care towards their playerbase now they are aware of the problem then they could be liable for a portion of any damages if someone did sue. CCP gains nothing but negative publicity and the potential to be sued if they don't act.

They cannot now claim they were not knowledgeable about the activity as a defense.



So let me ask you this question...

I know what goes on there.. so do many others who have read the thing on these forums linking to previous Bonus Rooms.

Should they be banned for knowing and not saying anything?
Should I be banned because I was in the same BU TS Server a few channels in my Corp Channel?

If broad strokes need to be taken they sure as hell need to make sure they catch all you idiots that have posted and fuelled this personal attack.

I don't think anyone should be banned. I think CCP should ensure that players do not source victims from EVE, using EVE, to do what they did, nor should they after doing it be allowed to post it on the EVE forums.

If they want to source victims from a 3rd party board, do it on TS, and then post back to the 3rd party board, that's not CCP's problem.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Brusanan
Sons of Seyllin
Pirate Lords of War
#7027 - 2014-03-28 05:44:23 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Mario Putzo wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

Sorry but the issue is not done and dusted.

What was done was against the rules (harassment), damaged CCP's reputation (only have to check the MMO boards to see the response), and if nothing is done to prevent this sort of thing occurring then it will happen again and potentially someone could be harmed, either one of the perpetrators in RL or the victim through self harm.

More disturbingly one of the perpetrators stated in this thread that they're actively competing against other people also doing the same thing and so they're being forced to 'outdo' each other which means the abuse will take the slippery slope of stupidity and potentially become much more serious with more serious consequences.

If CCP does not act on their duty of care towards their playerbase now they are aware of the problem then they could be liable for a portion of any damages if someone did sue. CCP gains nothing but negative publicity and the potential to be sued if they don't act.

They cannot now claim they were not knowledgeable about the activity as a defense.



What ruined CCP's reputation (if at all) was the Jester Trek article being picked up and spread around the MMO community. An article that tonight we found was entirely baseless in its positions. Sohkar has gone on the record saying as much. He has also stated that he doesn't appreciate the article Ripard wrote, nor does he appreciate this 300 page thread about it.

Sohkar mentioned that he got over the loss of his assets already, he got back on his feet made some ISK and was happy and content playing with his corpmates and doing whatever it is he does within this game, and this all changed once Ripard took it upon himself, without Sohkars permission, to make a big old article about how awful Sohkars experience was, an article that went softly viral through the MMO community.

Erotica 1 and scamming didn't tarnish CCP's reputation, Ripard Tegs completely off base article did that. An article he had absolutely no business writing at all.


Reporting something factual doesn't harm CCP's reputation. The act that was reported did.

Except that Ripard Teg blatantly lied to make the bonus round sound much worse than it actually is. This is something that has been stated over and over again and can be confirmed simply by listening to the recording. This has also been confirmed by Sohkar himself on TS tonight.

This is nothing more than overblown rabble rousing by one person with a grudge and his fanboys.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7028 - 2014-03-28 05:44:24 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
-beating a dead horse-


Cling to those straws you're reaching for. Cling to them.

They're facts.


Then you can prove them.

So, go for it.

I suggest you read this thread and listen to the recording.


I've been reading this forum since page 1, and I've listened to the recording four times now.

Still yet to see any proof of your assertions, so....

waiting.

FYI, circumstantial substantiation is not proof. You should learn what acceptable standards of evidence are required to prove assertions before asserting they've been proven.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
sohkar
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#7029 - 2014-03-28 05:45:35 UTC
i decided to finally post after talking to the night with erotica 1 and would like to say that erotica 1 and i didnt not troll i never met him before this thing happened. The bonus roomed happened a month ago and not many people knew about it til the post that was made which if i had a choice i would not have agree to it since i thought everything would of blown over. I dont think erotica 1 should be banned but just because of that i dont think what he did was 100% right but i choose to do what i did and i said what i said he didnt tell me to say it. I was tired and angry but i just want to blow this over.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7030 - 2014-03-28 05:45:46 UTC
For the record, Sokhar just called Riptard Riptard. It was amazing.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7031 - 2014-03-28 05:46:16 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:

I've been reading this forum since page 1, and I've listened to the recording four times now.

Still yet to see any proof of your assertions, so....

waiting.

FYI, circumstantial substantiation is not proof. You should learn what acceptable standards of evidence are required to prove assertions before asserting they've been proven.

Then you have problems with your comprehension skills. Nothing much that can be done for that here on the board.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7032 - 2014-03-28 05:48:14 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
For the record, Sokhar just called Riptard Riptard. It was amazing.



I always call him Riptard... I want to call him something else right now but people can't read *****.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#7033 - 2014-03-28 05:48:16 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Navi Annages wrote:
Ripard Teg where have you run off to?

You come into this thread specifically to poke at the fire a few times and then run away when your presence is requested on a TS3 server with Erotica 1 and Sohkar Live on twich.

I'm unsure as to exactly what kinda of mongering low life CSM you really are for posting such a wonderful piece of negative journalism. http://evenews24.com/2014/03/25/jesters-trek-the-bonus-round/

If this is what we can expect from current CSM's trying to actively damage the eve community then I honestly propose that CSM Ripard Teg be removed from his position BEFORE the upcoming CSM POLLS.

In my opinion Ripard Teg has overstepped his position of power in an attempt to disrupt and or influence the eve community for his own agenda.

Ripard Teg calls for Bans on Erotica 1 and any escrow agents involved.

Then in response to overuse of his power he should walk away from CSM in shame either by choice of resignation or by forceful removal. God wills it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8-JfK-wwFU

Sorry but the issue is not done and dusted.

What was done was against the rules (harassment), damaged CCP's reputation (only have to check the MMO boards to see the response), and if nothing is done to prevent this sort of thing occurring then it will happen again and potentially someone could be harmed, either one of the perpetrators in RL or the victim through self harm.

More disturbingly one of the perpetrators stated in this thread that they're actively competing against other people also doing the same thing and so they're being forced to 'outdo' each other which means the abuse will take the slippery slope of stupidity and potentially become much more serious with more serious consequences.

If CCP does not act on their duty of care towards their playerbase now they are aware of the problem then they could be liable for a portion of any damages if someone did sue. CCP gains nothing but negative publicity and the potential to be sued if they don't act.

They cannot now claim they were not knowledgeable about the activity as a defense.


I've seen the reactions out there, and at worst they could be described as "divided".

You do realize there are literally thousands of YouTube video's filled with people being talked into doing all sorts of embarrassing things (more than a few EVE related ones among them). I haven't heard of a single successful lawsuit against any of them that are of a similar nature.

You see, despite what you profess, politely asking someone to do something embarrassing while being recorded, and they readily agree to it, isn't a crime... anywhere. If fact, it has been the very basis of some of the most popular television shows on the air.

While we are on the subject, feel free to keep embarrassing yourself by beating this dead horse a bit longer. You're providing a lot of amusement to the rest of us.

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7034 - 2014-03-28 05:48:50 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:

I've been reading this forum since page 1, and I've listened to the recording four times now.

Still yet to see any proof of your assertions, so....

waiting.

FYI, circumstantial substantiation is not proof. You should learn what acceptable standards of evidence are required to prove assertions before asserting they've been proven.

Then you have problems with your comprehension skills. Nothing much that can be done for that here on the board.


If you are making an assertion, it is up to you to communicate and prove said assertion succinctly, not question the comprehension skills of the people you are trying to prove it to. This is a cop out. You have proven nothing and you're just waffling on and dodging now, driven by pure bile and hate and lies and nothing more, as per your usual style. It's okay, we're not actually expecting you to be a bigger person at all, we all know you won't be able to prove what you're asserting because you're just not asserting facts.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Liese Shardani
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#7035 - 2014-03-28 05:49:17 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
For the record, Sokhar just called Riptard Riptard. It was amazing.
And he also said he didn't know how to pronounce the name, just to be clear.
Space Juden
Supermassive Potato Pancake
#7036 - 2014-03-28 05:49:40 UTC
Sokar is becoming a lolcow for EVE esoteric mystics
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7037 - 2014-03-28 05:49:53 UTC
Liese Shardani wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
For the record, Sokhar just called Riptard Riptard. It was amazing.
And he also said he didn't know how to pronounce the name, just to be clear.


I know, but it was still amazing.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7038 - 2014-03-28 05:50:14 UTC
Liese Shardani wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
For the record, Sokhar just called Riptard Riptard. It was amazing.
And he also said he didn't know how to pronounce the name, just to be clear.


Does not matter...

The word Tard comes easy when talking about Riptard.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
Yuto Alduin
Doomheim
#7039 - 2014-03-28 05:50:17 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Mara Rinn wrote:
You are committing the sin of "Argument through Repetition."

Isn't everyone?


This whole thread has been repetition after repetition. Points have been made, people have missed them, and created repetitive arguments that have been demonstrated as false by the points they've missed. So the points need to be made again. I'm taking a page out of Salvos book, copy-pasting is convenient for addressing the repetitive nature of the witch hunt against Ero. Fortunately, I have a sound argument. Unless, of course, someone can find fault with it. Then I am willing to listen and have a discussion.



Points have been made, YOU have missed them.
Repetitive arguments being made by YOU are just as bad.
There is no discussion with you or any type of listening it is obvious you only want to hear people who agree with you. You will resort to spamming some nonsense like a child because you have nothing else left.

It is good to see that there was a lot of good people who responded to this since last time I posted. Looks like the same few going to defend this a hole till the end LOL. Ban e1 and everyone involved. The line has to be drawn somewhere CCP you do that now or wait until e1 talks some player into suicide.
Kristalll
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7040 - 2014-03-28 05:50:25 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:

I've been reading this forum since page 1, and I've listened to the recording four times now.

Still yet to see any proof of your assertions, so....

waiting.

FYI, circumstantial substantiation is not proof. You should learn what acceptable standards of evidence are required to prove assertions before asserting they've been proven.

Then you have problems with your comprehension skills. Nothing much that can be done for that here on the board.


http://gyazo.com/b2821bdff8c6995dc628359c957db7e9

did you read that post?

“Die trying” is the proudest human thing.