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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6981 - 2014-03-28 05:10:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Muestereate wrote:



For A fee of 12 billion isk I will do a deeper examination and provide a report but only to sohkar


There's no report you can provide that will demonstrate your assertion, but if you think there is and want to prove your claim, then you'll do it for free. Otherwise, your assertion will be dismissed as the hate-mongering froth-drivelling excuse that it is.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#6982 - 2014-03-28 05:11:25 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Wait... Prince Kobol and Mandarine are the same person?

From earlier in the thread it would seem so.


Well, that's good to know. I personally owe Mandarine a public flogging. He needs to be chased out of EVE. He is a vile, real life threatening scumbag.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Cha'ka Khan
Dark Skies Dojo
#6983 - 2014-03-28 05:11:43 UTC
Navi Annages wrote:
Ripard Teg where have you run off to?

You come into this thread specifically to poke at the fire a few times and then run away when your presence is requested on a TS3 server with Erotica 1 and Sohkar Live on twich.

I'm unsure as to exactly what kinda of mongering low life CSM you really are for posting such a wonderful piece of negative journalism. http://evenews24.com/2014/03/25/jesters-trek-the-bonus-round/

If this is what we can expect from current CSM's trying to actively damage the eve community then I honestly propose that CSM Ripard Teg be removed from his position BEFORE the upcoming CSM POLLS.

In my opinion Ripard Teg has overstepped his position of power in an attempt to disrupt and or influence the eve community for his own agenda.

Ripard Teg calls for Bans on Erotica 1 and any escrow agents involved.

Then in response to overuse of his power he should walk away from CSM in shame either by choice of resignation or by forceful removal. God wills it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8-JfK-wwFU



N00b question here.... What is the CSM?

The only thing we have to fear, is new pilots and AFK miners. 
Morihei Akachi
Doomheim
#6984 - 2014-03-28 05:12:06 UTC
Coming late to this, I've worked through about half of the thread (was all I could manage). Nothing I've seen said in it by the defenders of E1 has changed my view of the detestable thing which is the 'bonus room' (which I was aware of long before this particular incident). I don't think it makes any difference what S thinks of it now: he clearly had a different opinion of it when it was happening (as did his wife; is she as sanguine about the whole experience now as he is? How many victims of domestic violence fail to press charges a day later?). In my view, E1 is a sadist and a repeat offender, and I think it reflects badly on CCP that they have so far failed to remove elements like this from the playerbase, after there has been so much documentary evidence of where his being allowed to seek his victims in the game leads. I'm all on Ripard Teg's side on this one (although I wish he'd said 'abuse' rather than 'torture').

"Enduring", "restrained" and "ample" as designations for starship components are foreign to the genre of high-tech science fiction and don’t belong in Eve Online. (And as for “scoped” …)
Lady Areola Fappington
#6985 - 2014-03-28 05:12:21 UTC
Muestereate wrote:


For A fee of 12 billion isk I will do a deeper examination and provide a report but only to sohkar


That wasn't like, an offer to exchange real life goods or services for ISK, was it? Coz, that's against EULA.

7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided. --Eve New Player Guide
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#6986 - 2014-03-28 05:13:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Well, that's good to know. I personally owe Mandarine a public flogging. He needs to be chased out of EVE. He is a vile, real life threatening scumbag.

Another threadnaught.

I don't think that's necessary and unless it is confirmed by CCP that the two characters are the same person, we should be careful to consider that it might not be the case either.

If you look through Kobol's post history, you can see the evidence unless it's been edited out.
Mario Putzo
#6987 - 2014-03-28 05:15:16 UTC
God wills it!
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#6988 - 2014-03-28 05:17:54 UTC
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
Muestereate wrote:


For A fee of 12 billion isk I will do a deeper examination and provide a report but only to sohkar


That wasn't like, an offer to exchange real life goods or services for ISK, was it? Coz, that's against EULA.


You're allowed to exchange in-game services for in-game currency.

Day 0 Advice for New Players
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#6989 - 2014-03-28 05:18:37 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Well, that's good to know. I personally owe Mandarine a public flogging. He needs to be chased out of EVE. He is a vile, real life threatening scumbag.

Another threadnaught.

I don't think that's necessary and unless it is confirmed by CCP that the two characters are the same person, we should be careful to consider that it might not be the case either.

If you look through Kobol's post history, you can see the evidence unless it's been edited out.


The more I read it, the more I start to think that they might be the same guy.

Kobol, care to comment?

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Kristalll
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6990 - 2014-03-28 05:19:33 UTC
Morihei Akachi wrote:
Coming late to this, I've worked through about half of the thread (was all I could manage). Nothing I've seen said in it by the defenders of E1 has changed my view of the detestable thing which is the 'bonus room' (which I was aware of long before this particular incident). I don't think it makes any difference what S thinks of it now: he clearly had a different opinion of it when it was happening (as did his wife; is she as sanguine about the whole experience now as he is? How many victims of domestic violence fail to press charges a day later?). In my view, E1 is a sadist and a repeat offender, and I think it reflects badly on CCP that they have so far failed to remove elements like this from the playerbase, after there has been so much documentary evidence of where his being allowed to seek his victims in the game leads. I'm all on Ripard Teg's side on this one (although I wish he'd said 'abuse' rather than 'torture').


You may have missed it but Sohkar and Erotica are in teamspeak togather talking it out.

http://www.twitch.tv/kristallnachte/

“Die trying” is the proudest human thing.
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#6991 - 2014-03-28 05:19:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Mara Rinn
So homework for the next episode of "The Bonus Room":

  • Define "Stockholm Syndrome"
  • Define "Battered Person Syndrome"
  • Define "Ritual Hazing"
  • Contrast the above, specifically in ways that they are similar and the ways that they differ
  • Provide short examples of the minimal case for each condition


For bonus credit:

  • Define bullying, ensuring that you do not reference US "Cyber Bullying" legislation
  • Express an opinion about whether bullying can apply to interaction between adults, and what evidence you use to form this opinion


Please note: you must at least paraphrase the definitions you find in the dictionary. We do not approve of plagiarism, and the intent here is to have the student understand the material rather than simply be able to recite definitions parrot-fashion.

Day 0 Advice for New Players
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#6992 - 2014-03-28 05:20:52 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
The more I read it, the more I start to think that they might be the same guy.

Kobol, care to comment?


Wait till you get to the links of the screenshots he put together.

Real classy.
Muestereate
Minions LLC
#6993 - 2014-03-28 05:21:18 UTC
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
Muestereate wrote:


For A fee of 12 billion isk I will do a deeper examination and provide a report but only to sohkar


That wasn't like, an offer to exchange real life goods or services for ISK, was it? Coz, that's against EULA.


no those were in game services with as much tangibility as your pixels. out of gam services for isk is not against the eula btw. There are lots of IT services TS service etc etc provided for ISK. If I would have offered to pay real world dollars for ingame, that could be a problem but going the other way isn't a problem. relax. This thread isn't about me and its not about sohkar or ripard or anybody else but Erotica.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6994 - 2014-03-28 05:21:29 UTC
Morihei Akachi wrote:
Coming late to this, I've worked through about half of the thread (was all I could manage). Nothing I've seen said in it by the defenders of E1 has changed my view of the detestable thing which is the 'bonus room' (which I was aware of long before this particular incident). I don't think it makes any difference what S thinks of it now: he clearly had a different opinion of it when it was happening (as did his wife; is she as sanguine about the whole experience now as he is? How many victims of domestic violence fail to press charges a day later?). In my view, E1 is a sadist and a repeat offender, and I think it reflects badly on CCP that they have so far failed to remove elements like this from the playerbase, after there has been so much documentary evidence of where his being allowed to seek his victims in the game leads. I'm all on Ripard Teg's side on this one (although I wish he'd said 'abuse' rather than 'torture').


This is the point where the witch hunt against Ero will become obvious, because regardless of Sokhar's vindication of Ero, the white knights will continue to hate him and find excuses that either try to assert Sokhar is still being coerced against his will, or that Ero has tricked him again. I've said it before and I'll say it again, if hate wasn't already in them, then they wouldn't hate. This has never been about Ero v Sokhar, it's always been about hate for Ero. That's it. That's the bottom line.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#6995 - 2014-03-28 05:22:43 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
The more I read it, the more I start to think that they might be the same guy.

Kobol, care to comment?


Wait till you get to the links of the screenshots he put together.

Real classy.


Internet Explorer hates me, so if you had a link, I'd be grateful.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Lady Areola Fappington
#6996 - 2014-03-28 05:23:39 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
Muestereate wrote:


For A fee of 12 billion isk I will do a deeper examination and provide a report but only to sohkar


That wasn't like, an offer to exchange real life goods or services for ISK, was it? Coz, that's against EULA.


You're allowed to exchange in-game services for in-game currency.



True, but a report on someone's mental health in depth enough to hold a diagnosis of StockHolm Syndrome would take at least 3, if not more, in person-in-depth psychoanalyst sessions to accurately confirm.

I mean, unless he, or anyone else were trying to make this diagnosis via online, in-game interactions. That would run the gamut between "Pretty silly" and "Most definitely a felony" depending on jurisdiction.

7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided. --Eve New Player Guide
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#6997 - 2014-03-28 05:24:03 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
This is the point where the witch hunt against Ero will become obvious, because regardless of Sokhar's vindication of Ero, the white knights will continue to hate him and find excuses that either try to assert Sokhar is still being coerced against his will, or that Ero has tricked him again. I've said it before and I'll say it again, if hate wasn't already in them, then they wouldn't hate. This has never been about Ero v Sokhar, it's always been about hate for Ero. That's it. That's the bottom line.



You are committing the sin of "Argument through Repetition." Just saying a thing over and over again (twice in the last four of your posts) doesn't make it any more true.

Day 0 Advice for New Players
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#6998 - 2014-03-28 05:25:05 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
This is the point where the witch hunt against Ero will become obvious, because regardless of Sokhar's vindication of Ero, the white knights will continue to hate him and find excuses that either try to assert Sokhar is still being coerced against his will, or that Ero has tricked him again. I've said it before and I'll say it again, if hate wasn't already in them, then they wouldn't hate. This has never been about Ero v Sokhar, it's always been about hate for Ero. That's it. That's the bottom line.



You are committing the sin of "Argument through Repetition." Just saying a thing over and over again (twice in the last four of your posts) doesn't make it any more true.


Alternatively, truth bears repeating.

Or are you going to try and deny the immense hate-on going on in this thread?

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#6999 - 2014-03-28 05:25:28 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
You are committing the sin of "Argument through Repetition."

Isn't everyone?
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7000 - 2014-03-28 05:26:00 UTC
Navi Annages wrote:
Ripard Teg where have you run off to?

You come into this thread specifically to poke at the fire a few times and then run away when your presence is requested on a TS3 server with Erotica 1 and Sohkar Live on twich.

I'm unsure as to exactly what kinda of mongering low life CSM you really are for posting such a wonderful piece of negative journalism. http://evenews24.com/2014/03/25/jesters-trek-the-bonus-round/

If this is what we can expect from current CSM's trying to actively damage the eve community then I honestly propose that CSM Ripard Teg be removed from his position BEFORE the upcoming CSM POLLS.

In my opinion Ripard Teg has overstepped his position of power in an attempt to disrupt and or influence the eve community for his own agenda.

Ripard Teg calls for Bans on Erotica 1 and any escrow agents involved.

Then in response to overuse of his power he should walk away from CSM in shame either by choice of resignation or by forceful removal. God wills it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8-JfK-wwFU

Sorry but the issue is not done and dusted.

What was done was against the rules (harassment), damaged CCP's reputation (only have to check the MMO boards to see the response), and if nothing is done to prevent this sort of thing occurring then it will happen again and potentially someone could be harmed, either one of the perpetrators in RL or the victim through self harm.

More disturbingly one of the perpetrators stated in this thread that they're actively competing against other people also doing the same thing and so they're being forced to 'outdo' each other which means the abuse will take the slippery slope of stupidity and potentially become much more serious with more serious consequences.

If CCP does not act on their duty of care towards their playerbase now they are aware of the problem then they could be liable for a portion of any damages if someone did sue. CCP gains nothing but negative publicity and the potential to be sued if they don't act.

They cannot now claim they were not knowledgeable about the activity as a defense.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)