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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6861 - 2014-03-28 03:06:34 UTC
Super spikinator wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Eran Mintor wrote:
Yes, pod someone who stays docked. Brilliant. I'm sure you're using some secret Jovian module that shoots through station walls or something; must be expensive but well worth it, I hope?

There are some places/people in EVE that are completely safe.


What?

You are aware that Ero has a killboard, are you not?

You can't have one of those if you stay docked all the time.


From the bonus room it was revealed that the player who plays Erotica1 has quite a few alts. Erotica1 could just be used as a trader/scammer and they could play with their many other alts.


No, pay attention now, because I'm only going to say this once more, and ignoring it will be your problem. Erotica 1 has a killboard. To get a killboard, one is required to undock and shoot or be shot at by other ships.

Gittit?

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#6862 - 2014-03-28 03:10:24 UTC
Mike Azariah wrote:
and none of you find the name of the twitch stream offensive?

history weeps

m


On twitch? Seen worse.

But then, I try my hardest not go around looking for things to offend me. It pretty much takes death threats or obscene racism, honestly. And even then I try to keep my cool.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Zander Kumamato
The Chaos Void
#6863 - 2014-03-28 03:10:41 UTC
The intelligence or lack of intelligence of the victim does not change or excuse in anyway the depravity of the perpetrator.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#6864 - 2014-03-28 03:11:55 UTC
Zander Kumamato wrote:
The intelligence or lack of intelligence of the victim does not change or excuse in anyway the depravity of the perpetrator.


Which of those activities was "depravity", btw? The Disney song or the Wikipedia entries? Would it have been better if it had been "Bear Necessities" instead of the Gummy Bear song?

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6865 - 2014-03-28 03:13:44 UTC
Zander Kumamato wrote:
The intelligence or lack of intelligence of the victim does not change or excuse in anyway the depravity of the perpetrator.


In much the same way that the emotional state of the 'victim' doesn't excuse his racist and homophobic abuse or threats of violence.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Space Juden
Supermassive Potato Pancake
#6866 - 2014-03-28 03:15:01 UTC
Let's face it guys, this thread is the best thing we have in our sad, twisted, petty little lives and it's great
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6867 - 2014-03-28 03:17:00 UTC
Space Juden wrote:
Let's face it guys, this thread is the best thing we have in our sad, twisted, petty little lives and it's great


Actually, that would be my pet cockatiel I named Enyo. She's sitting happily on a perch nearby, beak-grinding away without a care in the world. If EVE died right now, these forums and this thread along with it, everyone would have something else to do, something else to play, and would get over in a few days at most.

TL;DR - speak for yourself.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Space Juden
Supermassive Potato Pancake
#6868 - 2014-03-28 03:18:26 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Space Juden wrote:
Let's face it guys, this thread is the best thing we have in our sad, twisted, petty little lives and it's great


Actually, that would be my pet cockatiel I named Enyo. She's sitting happily on a perch nearby, beak-grinding away without a care in the world. If EVE died right now, these forums and this thread along with it, everyone would have something else to do, something else to play, and would get over in a few days at most.

TL;DR - speak for yourself.


Maybe I should have gone with "the best thing EVE has going for it" but I was too scared
Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts
#6869 - 2014-03-28 03:19:13 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Super spikinator wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Eran Mintor wrote:
Yes, pod someone who stays docked. Brilliant. I'm sure you're using some secret Jovian module that shoots through station walls or something; must be expensive but well worth it, I hope?

There are some places/people in EVE that are completely safe.


What?

You are aware that Ero has a killboard, are you not?

You can't have one of those if you stay docked all the time.


From the bonus room it was revealed that the player who plays Erotica1 has quite a few alts. Erotica1 could just be used as a trader/scammer and they could play with their many other alts.


No, pay attention now, because I'm only going to say this once more, and ignoring it will be your problem. Erotica 1 has a killboard. To get a killboard, one is required to undock and shoot or be shot at by other ships.

Gittit?


Now, I know that I am guilty of bad posting, and I do realise that this forum is famous for leaping before looking but did it ever cross your zeal addled mind that I was talking about future events. To Ammend "Erotica1 could be used as a trader/scammer [in the future] and they could play their many other alts".
Muestereate
Minions LLC
#6870 - 2014-03-28 03:20:58 UTC
Mike Azariah wrote:
and none of you find the name of the twitch stream offensive?

history weeps

m


Never clicked, that kind of entertainment is for people that want to vicariously BE Erotica and have the sadistic control it implies. Regular viewers and listeners envy the ability to hurt people in such a ill fashion.
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#6871 - 2014-03-28 03:21:02 UTC
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#6872 - 2014-03-28 03:21:04 UTC
Space Juden wrote:
Let's face it guys, this thread is the best thing we have in our sad, twisted, petty little lives and it's great


I've certainly seen nothing quite like in here before. CCP going full hands off?

Anyone who complains about over moderation on the forum from now on gets a link to this bad boy.

Mr Epeen Cool
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#6873 - 2014-03-28 03:21:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Fury
Mike Azariah wrote:
and none of you find the name of the twitch stream offensive?

history weeps

m


That [the meaning] was pointed out in another thread which was soon concordokken by ISD.

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Abrei-Kaii
Petrolinvest
#6874 - 2014-03-28 03:24:10 UTC
From page 234 about 24 hours ago

Abrei-Kaii wrote:


Are you kidding me? This thread should have been locked after page 30, because page 31-250 + have been nothing but different persons having the exact same argument. Not to mention 85% if not more of the posts in this thread are simple trolling, or people throwing insults at each other.

I think its time to let this dead horse lie in peace now. Come on people, think of the horse :D


I see we are still torturing this poor horse...

At which point does this thread get locked due to lack of content? It has just been same 2 or 3 arguments being had by multiple people over & over again...
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#6875 - 2014-03-28 03:24:14 UTC
Space Juden wrote:
Let's face it guys, this thread is the best thing we have in our sad, twisted, petty little lives and it's great

There always has been something to threadnaught in Eve. Next will be the guy who got margin trade scammed was 'harassed'.
Chopper Rollins
hahahlolspycorp
#6876 - 2014-03-28 03:29:18 UTC
Mike Azariah wrote:
and none of you find the name of the twitch stream offensive?

history weeps

m


The phrase "That's offensive" actually contains no information.
But yeah it lacks a certain something...decency maybe.


Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.

Tara Read
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#6877 - 2014-03-28 03:29:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Tara Read
Prince Kobol wrote:
Here is Jesters latest Blog

http://jestertrek.blogspot.com.au/2014/03/the-bonus-round.html

As you can probably tell it is to do with Erotica 1's bonus round.

It is a very damning blog.

I can only surmise that Jester has brought the subject up with CCP and was not happy with there response which thus led him to create this blog. (Many apologise if I am wrong)

I would be very interested to hear what the community at large thinks and perhaps for Erotica and friends to refute the claims being made that they actually enjoy the pain and humiliation that they cause, especially to the man in the recording linked in Jesters Blog.



How exactly is his blog post damning? It's not like people have known for a long while Erotica is a troll and a scammer in his own unique right. It's nothing astonishing, nothing revealing. It's just someone crying foul about a person being taken for a ride and made to do stupid things on voice comms for greed. That's it.

Let's step back from the rants and pitchforks for a moment to actually break down this unusual phenomenon in New Eden called scamming. Firstly, Erotica's amounts are paltry in comparison to some of the biggest heists that have made Eve infamous. Part of the unique challenges and allure of Eve is a universe of harsh reality. A universe of truly open possibility.

The game from the very beginning of the first introduction paints a bleak picture of humanity and it's struggle through the four races and how through sheer force of will began to climb back from the bleakness of utter ruin to triumph over Space itself. YOU as a player willfully enter this universe from the very beginning. No one forces you to log in nor interact with others.

Yet the itch grabs people. They realize isk is power. Isk means a bigger ship, a better character, opportunity, and is the life blood of a freely driven economy. Even CCP's touted "Greed Is Good" slogan is plastered and seared into our minds that to go for it "all" in the name of power is not only encouraged, it is expected.

This is the pressures an ignorant newcomer faces. They like the rest of us must learn the pains of treachery in a Universe as cold as space itself. No one "made" this person log into Erotica's comms. No one "made" this person do the things he did. There was no gun held to his head. Nothing.

He was instead driven by Greed. That itch we all feel. That itch that drove me to empty an entire Alliance's SRP fund and liquid isk and assets in a blink of an eye. It's the same itch you feel when your victim is pointed and smoldering as you demand a ransom. It's the same itch a Carebear feels when he grinds. And it's the same itch people have given into thousands of times over to their utter ruin.

Erotica did not berate this person. By all accounts he was "trolled softly" and it was the clamness in Erotica's voice that led to the most wincing reactions from this person. he gave it all away and was upset. The fact someone entices you to sing a song or do stupid things not only means this person is willing to personally degrade themselves for money, they are willing to walk with little shame as long as the ends justify the means.

The same can be said for Erotica. He simply feeds on that basic of hunger. That drive and lust for power that every player wants. And it is the lesson we ALL have learned and one this player sadly as well had to be taught. Do I like Erotica's form of trolling? Not really. I much prefer the teaching hand of Tank CEO and his brunt yet truthful lessons to a player mining in Low Sec.

But that is of course opinion. Can CCP monitor comms? No. Should they? No. Should Erotica be banned? No. Is this a sore issue that will pit the hunter against the hunted until the servers go black? Yes. No I'm not being cold. I'm being realistic. We've all been scammed. I've been scammed. It's just something we all need to accept and it makes us stronger players.

Well those of us who understand this is after all just a video game.
Pew Terror
All of it
#6878 - 2014-03-28 03:30:28 UTC
Mike Azariah wrote:
and none of you find the name of the twitch stream offensive?

history weeps

m


Naming yourself after the event that started the mass slaughter of jews...
Seriously sometimes i wonder where society is going with online interaction becoming the norm for a large percentage of people.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#6879 - 2014-03-28 03:32:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Don't think CCP should do anything to the in game character, as s(he) has not exactly broken any EULA (expecially lenient towards sociopaths and other humanity garbage).

But they should signal the event to local authorities so they may investigate if there has been an actual RL abuse which might be puhished by law. Law tends to be stickier and stricter than CCP's EULAs.
Space Juden
Supermassive Potato Pancake
#6880 - 2014-03-28 03:35:12 UTC
Anyway I had my law firm look into this today and this is what they came up with

Quote:
Virtual crime or in-game crime refers to a virtual criminal act that takes place in a massively multiplayer online game, usually an MMORPG. The huge time and effort invested into such games can lead online "crime" to spill over into real world crime, and even blur the distinctions between the two. Some countries have introduced special police investigation units to cover such "virtual crimes". South Korea is one such country and looked into 22,000 cases in the first six months of 2003

Known cases:

In South Korea, where the number of computer game players is massive, some have reported the emergence of gangs and mafia, where powerful players steal and demand that beginners give them virtual money for their "protection".

In China, Qiu Chengwei was sentenced to life in prison after stabbing and killing fellow The Legend of Mir 3 gamer Zhu Caoyuan. In the game Qiu had lent Zhu a powerful sword (a "dragon sabre"), which Zhu then went on to sell on eBay for 7,200 Yuan (about £473 or US$870). With no Chinese laws covering the online dispute, there was nothing the police could do.

In the game The Sims Online a 17-year old boy going by the in-game name "Evangeline", was discovered to have built a cyber-brothel, where customers would pay sim-money for minutes of cybersex. This led to the cancellation of his accounts but no legal action, mainly because he was above the age of consent.

The term "virtual mugging" was coined when some players of Lineage II used bots to defeat other player's characters and take their items. In Japan, the Kagawa prefectural police arrested a Chinese foreign exchange student on 16 August 2005 following the reports of virtual mugging and the online sale of the stolen items

It was reported on 14 November 2007 that a Dutch teenager had been arrested for allegedly stealing virtual furniture from "rooms" in 3D social-networking website Habbo Hotel. The teenagers involved were accused of creating fake Habbo websites in order to lure users into entering their account details, which would then be used to steal virtual furniture bought with real money totaling €4000.


To my everlasting shame I later found that the entire thing was plagiarized from wikipedia

Regardless, will Erotica 1 be the next entry? That is the question poised to you, which you may be able to answer in time.