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Mario Putzo
#6341 - 2014-03-27 21:13:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Mario Putzo
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Look what Microsoft is doing in cases like this:

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-26766098

EVE should do similar.


Ya I can totally see how that wouldn't be abused.

Let me just type up a blog about this guy I don't like, and get all my friends to dislike him too. Then Ill ask that those friends get their friends to dislike him too. Maybe one of them will write a thread on ~Popular Game~ about that player and we can all complain about him.

Now he has a red gamer card, and I have won in my vendetta against him.


Or you know you could just not deal with a guy that has what 30B bounty on him and as such has already been labeled by the community as a shady figure..
Dave Stark
#6342 - 2014-03-27 21:13:57 UTC
arabella blood wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
he basically said you're free to read whatever he wrote, and jump to whatever wild conclusion you want to.


Really? thx captain obvious.


any time.
Kristalll
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6343 - 2014-03-27 21:14:25 UTC
Xuixien wrote:
olan2005 wrote:


But there is still an intrinsic value to the player who invested time to acquire virtual assets which are the property of ccp but his to use. Without those assets he would have had to start from scratch


Well to people like me, Erotica 1, and others: It's just space pixels, who cares.

To people like Sohkar, I guess they're a huge invest of time and energy and have personal value.

Good thing no one is responsible for the subjective feelings of anyone else.


Really, once you've lost a jump freighter because you were too stupid to dock up you get over really caring much about the space pixels.

“Die trying” is the proudest human thing.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#6344 - 2014-03-27 21:14:40 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
arabella blood wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Just to inject some factual information:

1) CCP have taken notice of the the issue.
2) So have the CSM.
3) I personally I am very content with the direction the resultant discussion took. All my concerns were dealt with, and the CSM has a unified position.


So nothing will be done to Erotica 1 then, except maybe a slap on the wrist and possibly some revision of the EULA.


You could make that interpretation


Can you stop talking in codes and with a politicians tounge??


I could.



will you?

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

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Desivo Delta Visseroff
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6345 - 2014-03-27 21:14:40 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
arabella blood wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Just to inject some factual information:

1) CCP have taken notice of the the issue.
2) So have the CSM.
3) I personally I am very content with the direction the resultant discussion took. All my concerns were dealt with, and the CSM has a unified position.


So nothing will be done to Erotica 1 then, except maybe a slap on the wrist and possibly some revision of the EULA.


You could make that interpretation


Can you stop talking in codes and with a politicians tounge??


I could.



Ha ha ha ha! Verb play for the win!

I was hunting for sick loot, but all I could get my hands on were 50 corpses[:|]..............[:=d]
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#6346 - 2014-03-27 21:14:47 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Xuixien wrote:

He's on the CSM. Of course he's a politician and will speak like one.

You just need to learn how to speak Politicianese.


Whatever they say, the opposite is true.

Oh, wait, that's my Malcanis filter.





I love you.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

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Zedrik Cayne
Standards and Practices
#6347 - 2014-03-27 21:14:52 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
there have been winners of the Bonus Round.


What exactly is required of a non-affiliated participant in order to win?


Following all the rules mostly. Erotica 1 runs a crooked game. But it *is* winnable.

Now, once you break a rule. It is not required that the people who run the game inform you that you have.

I've won the isk-doubling portion of the game. Because I followed the rules as posted. I refused a trip to the bonus room because while I was willing to gamble away a chunk of change, I'm not that big a gambler.

The whole humiliation/etc angle that goes on in the Bonus Room when people lose makes me uncomfortable. It goes past what I consider to be 'the line'

But I'll support Erotica's ability to do so to the hilt. I'm not going to participate in it. I'm not going to condone it. But if that's the way Erotica chooses to play the game, then that's that.

I've been asked on a few occasions to 'investigate' (in the old IEEE fashion) Erotica a few times. But I couldn't find a set of behaviors that failed the 'Good Standards and Practices' line that investigations require.

Now, whether or not CCP decides that banning Erotica for this behavior is warranted. That is up to them. I will probably continue playing and paying either way because I think there has been a line crossed here.

If Erotica 1 gets banned, are those of you who support this kind of thing willing to walk away from the game in support/protest? If the behavior is condoned, are those griping about it the hardest willing to do the same thing? If they don't ban Erotica and instead modify the EULA to make this kind of thing a bannable offence in the future will you walk? At the very bottom line, that is actually what will cause CCP to move significantly one way or the other. Because that is their bottom line.

We will find out in a few days...

I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#6348 - 2014-03-27 21:14:57 UTC
arabella blood wrote:
Really? thx captain obvious.

How much do you charge to troll people?

Oh god.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#6349 - 2014-03-27 21:15:33 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:



will you?


I will.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6350 - 2014-03-27 21:15:46 UTC
Mario Putzo wrote:
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Look what Microsoft is doing in cases like this:

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-26766098

EVE should do similar.


Ya I can totally see how that wouldn't be abused.

Let me just type up a blog about this guy I don't like, and get all my friends to dislike him too. Then Ill ask that those friends get their friends to dislike him too. Maybe one of them will write a thread on ~Popular Game~ about that player and we can all complain about him.

Now he has a red gamer card, and I have won in my vendetta against him.



Learn to read.

"We designed the algorithm so it won't penalise you for bad reports over a few weeks of play. The system also adjusts for false reports from people that might intentionally report someone of greater skill or for other griefing purposes," said Mr Dunn.
Kristalll
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6351 - 2014-03-27 21:16:34 UTC
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Look what Microsoft is doing in cases like this:

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-26766098

EVE should do similar.


Until the meta becomes all of the CFC votes against FCs in PL and gets them banned. Good logic there.

“Die trying” is the proudest human thing.
Vilar Diin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#6352 - 2014-03-27 21:16:52 UTC
Kristalll wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
olan2005 wrote:


But there is still an intrinsic value to the player who invested time to acquire virtual assets which are the property of ccp but his to use. Without those assets he would have had to start from scratch


Well to people like me, Erotica 1, and others: It's just space pixels, who cares.

To people like Sohkar, I guess they're a huge invest of time and energy and have personal value.

Good thing no one is responsible for the subjective feelings of anyone else.


Really, once you've lost a jump freighter because you were too stupid to dock up you get over really caring much about the space pixels.


Has nothing to do with pixels. Has everything to do with a mayonnaise and humiliation fetishist. Blink
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#6353 - 2014-03-27 21:17:03 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Xuixien wrote:

He's on the CSM. Of course he's a politician and will speak like one.

You just need to learn how to speak Politicianese.


Whatever they say, the opposite is true.

Oh, wait, that's my Malcanis filter.





I love you.

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Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#6354 - 2014-03-27 21:17:21 UTC
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Look what Microsoft is doing in cases like this:

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-26766098

EVE should do similar.


Use your brain for two seconds and you'll understand why this is not possible. (its not because of "false reports")

"**CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"**

Never forget.
Kristalll
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6355 - 2014-03-27 21:18:06 UTC
Ssieth wrote:
Cheap scams preying on newbies not so much.


Don't lie. You and I both know these scams are targeted at bored bittervets.

“Die trying” is the proudest human thing.
Mario Putzo
#6356 - 2014-03-27 21:18:42 UTC
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Mario Putzo wrote:
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Look what Microsoft is doing in cases like this:

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-26766098

EVE should do similar.


Ya I can totally see how that wouldn't be abused.

Let me just type up a blog about this guy I don't like, and get all my friends to dislike him too. Then Ill ask that those friends get their friends to dislike him too. Maybe one of them will write a thread on ~Popular Game~ about that player and we can all complain about him.

Now he has a red gamer card, and I have won in my vendetta against him.



Learn to read.

"We designed the algorithm so it won't penalise you for bad reports over a few weeks of play. The system also adjusts for false reports from people that might intentionally report someone of greater skill or for other griefing purposes," said Mr Dunn.


Which doesn't negate anything I said. Cool how blogs and witch hunts work eh.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#6357 - 2014-03-27 21:19:32 UTC
This thread is slowing down.

I just had to click refresh twice before a new reply popped up, instead of 3 to 12 every time I clicked once.

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Kristalll
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6358 - 2014-03-27 21:19:33 UTC
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Look what Microsoft is doing in cases like this:

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-26766098

EVE should do similar.


you mean a system where people who file baseless reports have a detrimental effect on your game, meaning the butthurt miner you gank with the most accounts can ruin your game because he doesn't agree with how you play eve?

doesn't sound open to abuse at all.


Already exists in form of Report Bot button.

That one isnt abused at all.


Except that is not how the Report Bot button works.

Hell, I've reported OBVIOUS bots with multiple characters and they're still out botting away.

“Die trying” is the proudest human thing.
Salvos Rhoska
#6359 - 2014-03-27 21:20:37 UTC
Kristalll wrote:
Don't lie. You and I both know these scams are targeted at bored bittervets.


You still get all his assets though, if they are stupid/dumb enough to comply.
And I applaud you for that. Gf.

But why the whole Bonus Room thing thereafter?

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#6360 - 2014-03-27 21:21:02 UTC
Kristalll wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
olan2005 wrote:


But there is still an intrinsic value to the player who invested time to acquire virtual assets which are the property of ccp but his to use. Without those assets he would have had to start from scratch


Well to people like me, Erotica 1, and others: It's just space pixels, who cares.

To people like Sohkar, I guess they're a huge invest of time and energy and have personal value.

Good thing no one is responsible for the subjective feelings of anyone else.


Really, once you've lost a jump freighter because you were too stupid to dock up you get over really caring much about the space pixels.


Or lost everything you owned (3bil) in an Iteron that was on Autopilot while you were taking a dump.

Or purchased a Thrasher for 750 million instead of 750 thousand (I ganked a ***** with that Thrasher, too! It felt great).

Or accidentally sold your Gnosis for 1 million ISK and not 1 billion ISK (first day back from a break - you got me, dude, well played!)

Eventually you get to the point where you just start ganking in Aliastra Catalysts and not giving any fucks.

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist