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Faction Rigs!
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MissBehaving
Tactical Withdrawal Team
The Rejected.
#1 - 2014-03-27 16:55:05 UTC
Why not have faction rigs? They Could have T2 stats but with relaxed calibration points, mind you not T1 calibration but each one could be adjusted for a small fitting benefit. Example: Large energy collision accelerator has a calibration of 300 so say the same faction type would be "and this is just an example" 250 calibration.

I am lazy and did not search this topic so I cannot tell if this has been brought up before so in case it has please just ignore this.


MissBehaving
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#2 - 2014-03-27 17:12:46 UTC
Having only a very slight reduction in calibration would probably be the only circumstances under which I would be okay with this.

Not sure on the best way to source the bpcs.

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MissBehaving
Tactical Withdrawal Team
The Rejected.
#3 - 2014-03-27 17:15:31 UTC
If I recall they are talking about beefing up the loot tables for relic and data sites so they could just dump the bpc's in there if I was to guess.
Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
#4 - 2014-03-27 17:54:13 UTC
Decent idea. I'd like to see other things implemented first. Data/Relic seems like a good fit for being able to find them as well.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#5 - 2014-03-27 18:09:23 UTC
relic sites currently drop me0 t2 rig bpcs, which can be very valuable. Faction rigs could go into both sites (data needs the love more by a LONG shot).

Maybe another idea would be to just make rogue drones have a faction variation of all rigs, and add them to the loot table of all drone sites.

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Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#6 - 2014-03-27 18:23:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Rroff
I like the idea of faction rigs but maybe something a little different - just as an example (probably a bit silly) say

TransStellar Shipping Astronautic Rig:

Calibration -150
Warpspeed +15%
Cargo +20%
Armor -15%

That give 2 attributes but they sit somewhere around T1 or just above T1 level (or even lower depending on the power of the bonuses) and a slightly increased penalty and themed to some of the lesser used NPC factions. Combine with MissBehaving's idea I think it would be a good little content addition.
Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
#7 - 2014-03-27 18:29:35 UTC
Combining attributes is an interesting idea, but you'd have to revisit the penalties and calibration costs pretty thoroughly. You might be able to make some interesting fits with such a rig...
Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
#8 - 2014-03-27 18:57:10 UTC
perhaps just a small amount for each faction ..things that they would likely be better at than everyone else.

Amarr
laser rigs - higher bonuses than T2
armour rigs - higher HP amount than T2
armour rigs - lower mass penalty than T2

Gallente
Hybrid rigs - higher bonuses than T2
armour rigs - higher armour rep bonuses than T2
sensor dampening rigs - higher bonuses than T2

Caldari
ecm rigs - higher bonuses than T2
shield rigs - higher HP than T2
missile rigs - higher bonuses than T2

Minmatar
Target Painting rigs - higher bonuses than T2
Projectile rigs - higher bonuses than T2
Speed rigs - higher bonuses than T2

T3's need to be versatile so no rigs are necessary ... they should not have OP dps and tank

ABC's should be T2, remove drone assist, separate HAM's and Torps range, -3 HS for droneboats

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Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#9 - 2014-03-27 19:01:42 UTC
Noxisia Arkana wrote:
Combining attributes is an interesting idea, but you'd have to revisit the penalties and calibration costs pretty thoroughly. You might be able to make some interesting fits with such a rig...


Indeed specifics would need some careful thinking out but it would make them a bit more attractive I think and hence even more of a driver for the related content.
Lyra Gerie
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2014-03-27 19:08:28 UTC
Hell even dead space rigs would be awesome. Altering their bonuses, drawbacks and calibration would work and could allow for interesting fits so +1 from me.
MissBehaving
Tactical Withdrawal Team
The Rejected.
#11 - 2014-03-27 21:39:52 UTC
Keep up the comments so far some good ideas :P
Egravant Alduin
Ascendance Rising
Ascendance..
#12 - 2014-03-27 22:14:43 UTC
+1 from me operator.Ican't think now the balanced stuff but in general I like the idea.In that way some lp stores might become better and have more missioners.

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DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
#13 - 2014-03-28 00:58:33 UTC
Rroff wrote:
I like the idea of faction rigs but maybe something a little different - just as an example (probably a bit silly) say

TransStellar Shipping Astronautic Rig:

Calibration -150
Warpspeed +15%
Cargo +20%
Armor -15%

That give 2 attributes but they sit somewhere around T1 or just above T1 level (or even lower depending on the power of the bonuses) and a slightly increased penalty and themed to some of the lesser used NPC factions. Combine with MissBehaving's idea I think it would be a good little content addition.


That isn't a bad idea at all to be honest. There are ships with the name Quafe so why not create rigs with the same faction name and set them as Officer Rigs.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#14 - 2014-03-28 04:17:43 UTC
Less calibration, slightly higher stats. Then maybe we can stop being gouged on T2 rigs...

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MissBehaving
Tactical Withdrawal Team
The Rejected.
#15 - 2014-03-28 21:43:24 UTC
The gouging would probly be worse lol
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#16 - 2014-03-28 21:49:51 UTC
t2 power with t1 calibration costs. rare enough to not completely obsolete t2. done.

I should buy an Ishtar.
stoicfaux
#17 - 2014-03-28 23:35:54 UTC
t2 power, t1 calibration, and increased penalty. Possibly a 2nd penalty instead of increasing the original penalty.

I'll give it a +1 when someone comes up with a lore justification for pirates having the R&D for such rigs.

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MissBehaving
Tactical Withdrawal Team
The Rejected.
#18 - 2014-03-29 00:10:23 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
t2 power, t1 calibration, and increased penalty. Possibly a 2nd penalty instead of increasing the original penalty.

I'll give it a +1 when someone comes up with a lore justification for pirates having the R&D for such rigs.



Or better yet, why they don't already!
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2014-03-29 06:41:19 UTC
Batelle wrote:
Having only a very slight reduction in calibration would probably be the only circumstances under which I would be okay with this.

Not sure on the best way to source the bpcs.

it would either have to be a amssive reduction in calibration, or it wouldnt make a difference, its not like fitting a ship where you have upwards of 8-18 slots to fill with modules of various fitting requirements. rigs only have 3 slots, and very few "sizes" of rigs (in reference to their calibration requirement).
Enya Sparhawk
Black Tea and Talons
#20 - 2014-03-29 08:25:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Enya Sparhawk
stoicfaux wrote:
t2 power, t1 calibration, and increased penalty. Possibly a 2nd penalty instead of increasing the original penalty.

I'll give it a +1 when someone comes up with a lore justification for pirates having the R&D for such rigs.


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I sort of like the idea of having faction rigs, but I think they should have bonuses that would only be useful to ships in a fleet...

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