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Hardpoint System Rework

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IceWolf Blitzer
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2014-03-27 15:32:43 UTC
The current system is somewhat boring and does not provide enough variety in ship fittings. Therefore, I propose a simple rework to the hardpoint system.

New Hardpoint System.
1 XL = 2L = 4M = 8S

‘Battlestar’ battleships with 24+ small turrets? Hell ya
Rayzilla Zaraki
Yin Jian Enterprises
#2 - 2014-03-27 15:40:58 UTC
Not overpowered at all...

You do realize they already have dual mounts, right? They two barrels of a smaller weapon class mounted to the larger turret. Better tracking for the size of mount, but not as good as the smaller sized mount. Seems balanced.

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Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#3 - 2014-03-27 16:16:53 UTC
so why take a small ship at all? all this does is put everyone into bigger and bigger ships and makes small ships underpowered. this is bad.

why take a frig with 3 guns to take on another frig when i can take a BS with 36 guns of the same size and take on 12 frigs at once?

capital ships were deliberately changed so that they were less effective against sub-caps. larger ships are deliberately weak against ships that are too small for their guns. this means that frigs are always useful, new players are always useful. this is good.

and i cant help but want to call u silly because u clearly didnt think for more than 5 seconds before posting. nor does it look like u searched as this isnt a wholly unique idea.

TL:DR
no u silly person.

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Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-03-27 16:19:06 UTC
Rayzilla Zaraki wrote:
Not overpowered at all...

You do realize they already have dual mounts, right? They two barrels of a smaller weapon class mounted to the larger turret. Better tracking for the size of mount, but not as good as the smaller sized mount. Seems balanced.


If those wepaons would actually use the appropriate ammo in the appropriate numbers... Ugh

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

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IceWolf Blitzer
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2014-03-27 16:46:21 UTC  |  Edited by: IceWolf Blitzer
Ok, I guess this seems a tad op. Maybe apply a tracking penalty that increases with each hardpoint size you go up or down (sacrifice tank or damage)? But really, if you build your ‘larger’ ship with small turrets to counter smaller ships, a standard fitted ‘larger’ ship will crush you. More dice rolling.
Rayzilla Zaraki
Yin Jian Enterprises
#6 - 2014-03-27 16:48:22 UTC
Debora Tsung wrote:


If those wepaons would actually use the appropriate ammo in the appropriate numbers... Ugh


Yeah. That would make sense, wouldn't it?

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Sigras
Conglomo
#7 - 2014-03-27 17:54:40 UTC
You realize that, using no ship bonuses, no damage mods and perfect skills that:
a small blaster does 43 DPS
a medium blaster does 57 DPS
a large blaster does 76 DPS

This means that 24 small turrets would be about equal to 13 large ones This would mean the hyperion would do 1,020 DPS in gun damage before damage mods (about 1,700 DPS with three mag stabs)

TL;DR
you seriously under estimate how much damage small guns do
IceWolf Blitzer
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2014-03-27 19:01:49 UTC
Where did I say rebalancing was not allowed? You are bringing too many numbers into my core idea thingy thread.
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#9 - 2014-03-27 21:21:59 UTC
so in order to balance it we have to greatly reduce the rate of fire to balance dps and cripple the tracking...or u know u could just use the faster tracking lower dps options in a weapon size

like dual 180's, dual 425's etc etc

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