EVE General Discussion

Really.
It shows how completely worthless the forum moderation is around here.

Broken rules generally get threads locked, usually on the flimsiest of pretenses.

IE: A thread gets trolled by asshats. If CCP just 'doesn't like' the subject because it puts them in a bad light - BAM - thread locked for trolling.

On the other hand, of the mods LIKE the topic - "Hey, lets allow 260 pages of hate slamming Erotica 1 as a pretense for nerfing his playstyle!" - Well, then rules don't matter and the ISD's are directed to go on vacation.

Trolling, hate, personal attacks, this thread has it all. But guess what, its still chugging along.

CCP Falcon and the forum mods have really shamed themselves here and deserve any lack of respect hey have earned.

here is the full text not a snippet quote so my response can be put into context

"I think you hit the nail on the head with that . Where is the line in these situations. For all discussions and commentators most agree, myself including scamming is fine. But once scam is completed and you have all possible assets extracted , is it ok to prolong the ordeal for the sucker ( victime , self inflicted) for tear extraction as it is called in-game. Should the EULA be more stringent on that aspect of scamming. Me personally i say yes . As for punshment i will disagree , there should be perma ban for Erotica1 for taking it too far, then putting this public domain which has a consequence for the whole community. There should be a temp ban for the sucker (victim ,self inflicted ) for the racism , and threats that followed. Why the lesser punishment . He was under self inflicted emotional duress, which was not completely under his control as his assets where being held to ransom , by that he had to play or loose everything he built up in his eve carrier . Coercion is used by Erotica1 , the scenario was set up by erotica1 , The control to end this was completely in Erotica1 hands . Ultimate responsibility is with the scammer Erotica1 for this entire situation"

For the scamming aspect yes it happend with the victims consent . He willingly handed over assets like a idiot. The bonus room shenanegians involved coercion by holding victims assets to ransom. The bonus room was done in a teamspeak which belongs to erotica1 or his freinds. Erotica1 set it up with the intent to focus on humilating people , not avatars not just to scam. The scenario of what went down was under his control as he was the one giving instructions . The putting of the recording in public domain was done by him . The capacity to stop boot the sucker (VICTIM) from teamspeak and end this was within erotica1 control . Erotica1 choose to set up the room out of game to humilate people not just to scam , and continued his antics after the scam was complete. He already had all the guys assets

Torturing a person in TS is not a playstyle. Its just sick.

We've all read it, dude. We've read the whole thing. Crumplecorn's point remains, and so does the little issue of there can be no coercion if the 'victim' hands over his assets willingly from the very beginning, and continues to consent to everything throughout the entire process. He even managed to leave at one stage, and then he willingly came back. Sokhar was ENTIRELY responsible for all his choices the moment he handed over his very first isk. Not to mention virtual assets aren't real, they are virtual, which means that nothing exists to coerce him with.