EVE General Discussion

To him, game = real life and should be treated the same way.

A. if he goes telling how it's set up to bypass in game laws (he's luring people out of logged comms) to avoid ban then yeah he should get kicked because he knows his actions are wrong from the start and the only purpose he is to inflict some sort of harassment for personal amusement.

B. If I do it in a manner that deliberately tries to avoid in game laws yet you use this platform as a ignition of this whole process then yeah. No different that a botter.

C. I'm within CCP rules so your attempt is nothing but personal and has no ground for them to even look at it.

I'm not thick it's just you have no idea what are you talking about because E1 actions all base from within this game and it is his platform to lure targets out to avoid banhammer.

A few weeks ago, I got doxed by players in this game. They sent a mail to my personal email, mentioned two of my family members by name, and passively threatened me to leave them alone with a smiley face at the end of it.

I petitioned it, but was told that external evidence cannot be used and is even harder to link to in-game entities. I was told not to discuss it with anyone, and I shouldn't, but now it's important that I talk about it.

If I'd forwarded that email to a game site, or Jester, or someone, on the substantiated belief that the person who doxed me was a dangerous individual and a threat to the community, would that random unknown player, someone not known in the community at all, be under the same scrutiny that Ero is now? No.

The whole lot of you high sec dwellers would all be telling me, 'haha, serves you right, you shouldn't mess with people who don't want to pvp." I've shared the information and in-game identity of the player in question with people I trust, so that they know to watch their backs. I've been forced to close Facebook, email and YouTube accounts and various other accounts around the internet that I'm associated with. But if I'd shared the evidence with Riptard, what would he make of it? Do you think he'd post it in one of his articles about how EVE is dying because of the meanie scammers and gankers? If you're saying yes, then you're wrong: the player in question is an afk miner with five accounts and hubris up to his earballs. Riptard wouldn't do anything to endanger his own people now, would he.

I'll tell you something that no one in the New Order, Goons, or any of these groups that you all so hate with so much passion would never do. They'd never dox you. They'd never threaten your real life entity, and they'd never use your family as leverage.

Want to hear the scariest part? This person actually contacted my mother on Facebook to tell her she was an awful person for raising such an arse of a son. You know what she did?

She called me, apologised for being a horrible mother and cried for three hours before I calmed her down and reminded her that I'm an adult and it's just a game they're talking about. By the end of the conversation, she actually understood what EVE is about, she understood the nature of the game. She's 55 years old and gets this game better than half you 15-20 somethings curled up in your little safety bubbles in highsec do.

Do you know what I did to the last person who made my mother cry? I drove a two-tonne truck straight at him, slammed on the breaks when I realised what I was doing and stopped it with him pinned between a bullbar and a garage door. He was unharmed, thank ****, because I would have been entirely responsible for any injury he sustained. And I would have ACCEPTED that responsibility for my EMOTIONAL reaction.

My point is, the vile person who doxed me and did that to my mother, he's still playing this game. He's out there right now, thinking that what he did has no consequences. He's gonna do it again. Does anyone care? Probably not, no, not until it happens to you anyway.

You think Ero did something wrong here? I submit to you that the most evil people in the game are the carebears who would like nothing more than to foist him on a stake. You need to learn to get some perspective, reconnect to ******* reality and stop being so goddamn entitled.

"I would like to think that when a person I don't like boasts publicly about being a person I don't like, that appropriate repercussions are handed out to state "I don't like this, this will not be accepted by me and under no circumstances should anyone believe it a good idea to replicate this persons actions "

'We' turns into 'I' since he can only speak for himself. Judgements about E1's status as the 'scum of the planet' are personal opinion and thus can be generalised as above. The result it literally "CCP should ban anyone I don't like".

No, it's not that vague. It's quite specific, actually.

Tell me, you go from telling us that the rules should take second seat to our better judgement to implying that the rules need to be more specific.

How did you even learn to work your keyboard?

I would like to point out that it does not matter whether E1 broke the EULA or not.

The point being made by people in this thread is that we do not want to be associated with such a morally wrong and disgraceful example of a human being.

We would like to play Eve.

We would like to think that when such a disgraceful representative of our game boasts publicly about being the scum of the planet, that appropriate repercussions are handed out to state "this is not right, this will not be accepted by anyone and under no circumstances should anyone believe it a good idea to replicate this persons actions "

253 pages!! What the hell. Someone needs to kill this over played topic already!

You could have been contributing to the pirate faction rebalance, or the massive reprocessing rebalance, you know stuff that is actually important and going to affect people in game. But instead you are all giving Erotica even more pleasure and fame.

I question "significant". Got some hard numbers? Sources?

You are trying to rationalize a logical fallacy.

LOL