EVE General Discussion

E1 did not harrass, insult or use racial and threatening language. The contestant, however, did.

E1 did not gain any out of game service for isk either. We have ransomed songs out of Devs before, its perfectly fine.

Oh yeah. I forgot. This world is so perfect and people are so nice to each other that we all stay of trouble and nobody gets hurt by other peoples bad intentions.

Wtf are you on idiot? Turn on tv and see what's up. This ain't utopia and people hurt other people in many ways.

Question is what will you turd do about it.
We all know what will happen when **** hits the fan for you but showing some empathy seems to be like a holy motherfucking grail of today's society.

If the 'mob' is the kind of mob I expect it is, then any answer will be indicative of Ero's evil. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. They just hate him, plain and simple, and this isn't the event that caused the hate, just the one that triggered the mob.

A few weeks ago, I got doxed by players in this game. They sent a mail to my personal email, mentioned two of my family members by name, and passively threatened me to leave them alone with a smiley face at the end of it.

I petitioned it, but was told that external evidence cannot be used and is even harder to link to in-game entities. I was told not to discuss it with anyone, and I shouldn't, but now it's important that I talk about it.

If I'd forwarded that email to a game site, or Jester, or someone, on the substantiated belief that the person who doxed me was a dangerous individual and a threat to the community, would that random unknown player, someone not known in the community at all, be under the same scrutiny that Ero is now? No.

The whole lot of you high sec dwellers would all be telling me, 'haha, serves you right, you shouldn't mess with people who don't want to pvp." I've shared the information and in-game identity of the player in question with people I trust, so that they know to watch their backs. I've been forced to close Facebook, email and YouTube accounts and various other accounts around the internet that I'm associated with. But if I'd shared the evidence with Riptard, what would he make of it? Do you think he'd post it in one of his articles about how EVE is dying because of the meanie scammers and gankers? If you're saying yes, then you're wrong: the player in question is an afk miner with five accounts and hubris up to his earballs. Riptard wouldn't do anything to endanger his own people now, would he.

I'll tell you something that no one in the New Order, Goons, or any of these groups that you all so hate with so much passion would never do. They'd never dox you. They'd never threaten your real life entity, and they'd never use your family as leverage.

Want to hear the scariest part? This person actually contacted my mother on Facebook to tell her she was an awful person for raising such an arse of a son. You know what she did?

She called me, apologised for being a horrible mother and cried for three hours before I calmed her down and reminded her that I'm an adult and it's just a game they're talking about. By the end of the conversation, she actually understood what EVE is about, she understood the nature of the game. She's 55 years old and gets this game better than half you 15-20 somethings curled up in your little safety bubbles in highsec do.

Do you know what I did to the last person who made my mother cry? I drove a two-tonne truck straight at him, slammed on the breaks when I realised what I was doing and stopped it with him pinned between a bullbar and a garage door. He was unharmed, thank ****, because I would have been entirely responsible for any injury he sustained. And I would have ACCEPTED that responsibility for my EMOTIONAL reaction.

My point is, the vile person who doxed me and did that to my mother, he's still playing this game. He's out there right now, thinking that what he did has no consequences. He's gonna do it again. Does anyone care? Probably not, no, not until it happens to you anyway.

You think Ero did something wrong here? I submit to you that the most evil people in the game are the carebears who would like nothing more than to foist him on a stake. You need to learn to get some perspective, reconnect to ******* reality and stop being so goddamn entitled.

You dont know what is going on in that persons life to make him vulnerable but someday it will happen to you or someone you love. Either way it doesnt change that it is sick to take advantage of the weaker among us and to delight in torturing the weaker of us. Just makes me nauseous.

E1 did not harrass, insult or use racial and threatening language. The contestant, however, did.

E1 did not gain any out of game service for isk either. We have ransomed songs out of Devs before, its perfectly fine.

Well considering a Former CSM and the current active leader of the most powerful player bloc in EVE actually taunted and encouraged a guy to commit suicide

Not for us it isn't. We don't like people shitting up our forums with badposts.

Baltec, you have not mentioned the part where they made fun of the mark for having a speech impediment.

Again, when it comes to the marks intemperate use of language, he was provoked and reacted badly, which he should not have done in an ideal world.

Good read, hope your mother is happy again.