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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4901 - 2014-03-27 11:50:48 UTC
PinkPanter wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
PinkPanter wrote:


The way you are trying here so hard I would watch your back as mom might enter room and take your power cord.

WTF dude. Add something and stop trying so hard cause you all look even more stupid.

You got to be E1s alt


I don't have to try, you're all making yourself look stupid just fine without my intervention, I'm just enjoying the show. I've added plenty, and it's all been dismissed by mouth-frothing paranoid pitchfork-wielding over-emotional morality police that wouldn't know what being rational meant if they were born into Mensa.

Really, though, thoroughly enjoying the tinfoil-inspired assumption that I'm an alt of Ero. Especially considering I've stated numerous times I neither support nor condemn him. That, and I'm an Australian single-account holder with only a hauling alt on the same account. Not that I have to explain anything to you, I just want you to understand why you and your very presumptuous buddies in the 'burn ero but pretend sokhar is innocent' crowd sound like total morons to me.


So you call us morons for having opinion different than yours, at this point you just sperg post for your amusement and some how being Australian makes you special?

Yeah. Lulz.



No, I call you morons for jumping to conclusions.

Wait, what was it you said? "You got to be E1s alt" or something like that?

If you're so prepared to jump to conclusions about me, what's there to stop you from jumping to conclusions about anything else? Like the circumstances surrounding this 'incident'?

You're a moron because you're a presumptuous **** who ignores rational arguments and reasonable assertions because they don't make you feel angry at Ero like everyone really wants to. Because let's face it: how many of you have been just WAITING for something even resembling a legit excuse to rage about Erotica 1 and make so very much ado about nothing?

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Kyperion
#4902 - 2014-03-27 11:50:53 UTC
Aivo Dresden wrote:
What saddens me the most is that E1 actaully has a shot at becoming our CSM. I really hope actions get taken against him, there's just some lines that shouldn't be crossed.

Well considering a Former CSM and the current active leader of the most powerful player bloc in EVE actually taunted and encouraged a guy to commit suicide, I'm not sure why we're suprised at the prevalence of this disgusting behavior in our community.

It is a cancer, and ALL of it must be removed
Abrei-Kaii
Petrolinvest
#4903 - 2014-03-27 11:51:11 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Abrei-Kaii wrote:

Please provide proof


I'm sure if you ask nicely E1 can link you some of the recording of people who have won.

In the meantime I will tell you, as a scammer, that this scam would not work if it got out that it was impossible to win the bonus room. You have to make it possible to win otherwise people will not fall for the bait.


Yeah okay... And the winners are probably his friends, alliance members, or people blue to his alliance. Obviously he isnt going to scam his own friends or allies so they get a cake walk through the 'bonus room' and declared winners making it seem like it is possible to win.

I would bet that no random people have won the game... Do you think we were just born yesterday?
Prie Mary
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#4904 - 2014-03-27 11:51:50 UTC
‘deindividuation’ within crowds causes people to lose their identities and consequently behave in inevitably anti-social ways. Over thirty years of empirical work from the social identity tradition (for a review see Reicher, Spears, & Haslam, 2010) has discredited these claims. This research has shown that rather than a loss of identity within crowds, there is ashift from personal to social levels of identification. Instead of acting in terms of the norms and behavioural limits of one’s personal identity, within a psychological crowd one therefore acts in coherence with the norms of one’s salient collective identity. These norms will differ depending upon which social identity is salient at any given time, e.g. as a resident of a local community, supporter of a sports team, or as a member of an audience at a television recording. Crowd behaviour is therefore rooted in social context, such that individuals may even act more pro-socially in a crowd than they would do alone.

Stumbled upon this when I remembered a Darren Brown experiment "The mask". What is worrying in this paragraph taken from a psychological response is it states that often in deindividuation people act the way they are socially expected to.

Now in a game like eve where CCP sell and even pride themselves on making a lawless, ruthless environment where being devious, deceitful and just plain nasty offers instant gratification and rewards. How do we expect many people to act? Eventually something will cross the line and CCP will have to act and make a stance. Personally I think this is the instance where this is needed before any real harm comes to anyone because of this game.




Dont just [u]think[/u] outside the box, [u]Live[/u] outside of it...

PinkPanter
Valhalla Drinking Team
#4905 - 2014-03-27 11:52:06 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
People have won. The scam wouldn't work if you couldn't win.


What exactly and specifically must the victim do in order to win the Bonus Round?


Well that's when I know Baltec is on damage control Lolz

I made about 500 sales of "Redeemers" in Geddon body and never ever had to give somebody the real thing.

This crap about scam must work theory is just one pile of dogpoo and jita local tears simply destroy it.
Kyperion
#4906 - 2014-03-27 11:52:19 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
PinkPanter wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
PinkPanter wrote:


The way you are trying here so hard I would watch your back as mom might enter room and take your power cord.

WTF dude. Add something and stop trying so hard cause you all look even more stupid.

You got to be E1s alt


I don't have to try, you're all making yourself look stupid just fine without my intervention, I'm just enjoying the show. I've added plenty, and it's all been dismissed by mouth-frothing paranoid pitchfork-wielding over-emotional morality police that wouldn't know what being rational meant if they were born into Mensa.

Really, though, thoroughly enjoying the tinfoil-inspired assumption that I'm an alt of Ero. Especially considering I've stated numerous times I neither support nor condemn him. That, and I'm an Australian single-account holder with only a hauling alt on the same account. Not that I have to explain anything to you, I just want you to understand why you and your very presumptuous buddies in the 'burn ero but pretend sokhar is innocent' crowd sound like total morons to me.


So you call us morons for having opinion different than yours, at this point you just sperg post for your amusement and some how being Australian makes you special?

Yeah. Lulz.



No, I call you morons for jumping to conclusions.

Wait, what was it you said? "You got to be E1s alt" or something like that?

If you're so prepared to jump to conclusions about me, what's there to stop you from jumping to conclusions about anything else? Like the circumstances surrounding this 'incident'?

You're a moron because you're a presumptuous **** who ignores rational arguments and reasonable assertions because they don't make you feel angry at Ero like everyone really wants to. Because let's face it: how many of you have been just WAITING for something even resembling a legit excuse to rage about Erotica 1 and make so very much ado about nothing?

This goes so much farther than just Erotica 1.
Wulfy Johnson
NorCorp Security
#4907 - 2014-03-27 11:52:55 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:


If he was 'subjected' to anything then he subjected himself. Y U NO UNDERSTAND CONCEPT OF CONSENT???



Do you, are there accually any legal evidence that the victim is in fact 27? or might he just as well be a minor lying?
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4908 - 2014-03-27 11:54:04 UTC
Kyperion wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
PinkPanter wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
PinkPanter wrote:


The way you are trying here so hard I would watch your back as mom might enter room and take your power cord.

WTF dude. Add something and stop trying so hard cause you all look even more stupid.

You got to be E1s alt


I don't have to try, you're all making yourself look stupid just fine without my intervention, I'm just enjoying the show. I've added plenty, and it's all been dismissed by mouth-frothing paranoid pitchfork-wielding over-emotional morality police that wouldn't know what being rational meant if they were born into Mensa.

Really, though, thoroughly enjoying the tinfoil-inspired assumption that I'm an alt of Ero. Especially considering I've stated numerous times I neither support nor condemn him. That, and I'm an Australian single-account holder with only a hauling alt on the same account. Not that I have to explain anything to you, I just want you to understand why you and your very presumptuous buddies in the 'burn ero but pretend sokhar is innocent' crowd sound like total morons to me.


So you call us morons for having opinion different than yours, at this point you just sperg post for your amusement and some how being Australian makes you special?

Yeah. Lulz.



No, I call you morons for jumping to conclusions.

Wait, what was it you said? "You got to be E1s alt" or something like that?

If you're so prepared to jump to conclusions about me, what's there to stop you from jumping to conclusions about anything else? Like the circumstances surrounding this 'incident'?

You're a moron because you're a presumptuous **** who ignores rational arguments and reasonable assertions because they don't make you feel angry at Ero like everyone really wants to. Because let's face it: how many of you have been just WAITING for something even resembling a legit excuse to rage about Erotica 1 and make so very much ado about nothing?

This goes so much farther than just Erotica 1.


That's it, I'm calling your babysitter.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

lollerwaffle
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#4909 - 2014-03-27 11:54:13 UTC
Kyperion wrote:
Aivo Dresden wrote:
What saddens me the most is that E1 actaully has a shot at becoming our CSM. I really hope actions get taken against him, there's just some lines that shouldn't be crossed.

Well considering a Former CSM and the current active leader of the most powerful player bloc in EVE actually taunted and encouraged a guy to commit suicide, I'm not sure why we're suprised at the prevalence of this disgusting behavior in our community.

It is a cancer, and ALL of it must be removed

A current CSM is actively calling for a witch hunt and starting a hate campaign as well as damaging CCP's reputation in various internet sits. But that's ok right?
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#4910 - 2014-03-27 11:54:16 UTC
Kyperion wrote:

Heaven forbid we prevent one dickhead from sabatoging the work and cooperation of a group of players potentially reaching the thousands.


And yet CCP advertises this

I think you are in the wrong game.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4911 - 2014-03-27 11:54:51 UTC
Wulfy Johnson wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:


If he was 'subjected' to anything then he subjected himself. Y U NO UNDERSTAND CONCEPT OF CONSENT???



Do you, are there accually any legal evidence that the victim is in fact 27? or might he just as well be a minor lying?


How about his wife?

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Drakast
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#4912 - 2014-03-27 11:54:51 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
People have won. The scam wouldn't work if you couldn't win.


What exactly and specifically must the victim do in order to win the Bonus Round?



i dont like repeating myself but ill say once again.

its bollox there is no and never has been a winner of the bonus round. The whole point of the scam is to take everything and push it as far as possible. only the vain hope of winning keeps the mark coming back for more. sertain cretins like to say that there was a winner so the con doesnt die totally.

no one will play if they think there is no chance of winning.
Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#4913 - 2014-03-27 11:55:56 UTC
PinkPanter wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
People have won. The scam wouldn't work if you couldn't win.


What exactly and specifically must the victim do in order to win the Bonus Round?


Well that's when I know Baltec is on damage control Lolz

I made about 500 sales of "Redeemers" in Geddon body and never ever had to give somebody the real thing.

This crap about scam must work theory is just one pile of dogpoo and jita local tears simply destroy it.


Isk doubling isn't the substitution racket. Getting someone to do the bonus rounds requires them to do a lot of conscious things, potentially including installing TS.
lollerwaffle
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#4914 - 2014-03-27 11:56:23 UTC
PinkPanter wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
People have won. The scam wouldn't work if you couldn't win.


What exactly and specifically must the victim do in order to win the Bonus Round?


Well that's when I know Baltec is on damage control Lolz

I made about 500 sales of "Redeemers" in Geddon body and never ever had to give somebody the real thing.

This crap about scam must work theory is just one pile of dogpoo and jita local tears simply destroy it.

I hate scammers like you. At least Erotica 1 doubles your ISK. Your actions show you are morally bankrupt.

People like you should be banned by CCP based on MY feelings.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#4915 - 2014-03-27 11:56:27 UTC
PinkPanter wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
People have won. The scam wouldn't work if you couldn't win.


What exactly and specifically must the victim do in order to win the Bonus Round?


Well that's when I know Baltec is on damage control Lolz

I made about 500 sales of "Redeemers" in Geddon body and never ever had to give somebody the real thing.

This crap about scam must work theory is just one pile of dogpoo and jita local tears simply destroy it.


Scamming renamed ships and taking everything off someone is a different ballgame.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#4916 - 2014-03-27 11:56:37 UTC
Tor Norman wrote:
lollerwaffle wrote:
Erotica 1 is very obviously an accomplished voice actor, in addition to being a paedophile, rapist, torturer etc.

Don't forget he sets fire to goats and eats babies.

Don't we all? We are EvE players after all.
Big Lynx
#4917 - 2014-03-27 11:56:53 UTC
One word to this THRITAN: kafkaesque
PinkPanter
Valhalla Drinking Team
#4918 - 2014-03-27 11:57:56 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
PinkPanter wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
PinkPanter wrote:


The way you are trying here so hard I would watch your back as mom might enter room and take your power cord.

WTF dude. Add something and stop trying so hard cause you all look even more stupid.

You got to be E1s alt


I don't have to try, you're all making yourself look stupid just fine without my intervention, I'm just enjoying the show. I've added plenty, and it's all been dismissed by mouth-frothing paranoid pitchfork-wielding over-emotional morality police that wouldn't know what being rational meant if they were born into Mensa.

Really, though, thoroughly enjoying the tinfoil-inspired assumption that I'm an alt of Ero. Especially considering I've stated numerous times I neither support nor condemn him. That, and I'm an Australian single-account holder with only a hauling alt on the same account. Not that I have to explain anything to you, I just want you to understand why you and your very presumptuous buddies in the 'burn ero but pretend sokhar is innocent' crowd sound like total morons to me.


So you call us morons for having opinion different than yours, at this point you just sperg post for your amusement and some how being Australian makes you special?

Yeah. Lulz.





No, I call you morons for jumping to conclusions.

Wait, what was it you said? "You got to be E1s alt" or something like that?

If you're so prepared to jump to conclusions about me, what's there to stop you from jumping to conclusions about anything else? Like the circumstances surrounding this 'incident'?

You're a moron because you're a presumptuous **** who ignores rational arguments and reasonable assertions because they don't make you feel angry at Ero like everyone really wants to. Because let's face it: how many of you have been just WAITING for something even resembling a legit excuse to rage about Erotica 1 and make so very much ado about nothing?


I hear a guy manipulate somebody to intentionally humiliate him using in game leverage with false promise and going public on top of it.
You got to be a total douche not to even consider it as something wrong.

I could care less about lost pixels but if I read that they use this chat room in a way that can harm people and intentionally set everything up to dodge ban hammer then no matter what some twisted individuals think this is a case for outrage and I'm glad that at least part of this already ****** up community is able to pull they eyes out of their ass and realize that things went too far.

Go chase a kangaroo and stop acting like wrong is ok because it's cool.
Wulfy Johnson
NorCorp Security
#4919 - 2014-03-27 11:59:27 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Wulfy Johnson wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:


If he was 'subjected' to anything then he subjected himself. Y U NO UNDERSTAND CONCEPT OF CONSENT???



Do you, are there accually any legal evidence that the victim is in fact 27? or might he just as well be a minor lying?


How about his wife?


Hardly any proof..

You`d be amazed about the age some people marry in some cultures..
lollerwaffle
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#4920 - 2014-03-27 12:00:30 UTC
Prie Mary wrote:
Personally I think this is the instance where this is needed before any real harm comes to anyone because of this game.

Why is CCP responsible for the actions of an individual who does another individual harm over a game? Does said individual not have any control over their emotions and can they not tell the difference between a video game and real life?