EVE General Discussion

It's kinda like holding a deck of cards right? Life threats vs ban? Which looks worse? Maybe a judge would decide wisely what happens to racist vulgar individuals.

everyone is pretty pist

annnnd go....


never mind, it's not to be

Why are you replying to me when Im not talking about in game vs out. you must have confused me with somone else.

Erotica 1 Did Nothing Wrong

im off the bed

To put this in summary points

1.The VICTIM Is at fault for falling for the scam

2. The SCAMMER took it too far, with this bonus room shenanigans.

3. There will be no criminal investigation ( just wont happen)

4 . CCP should intervene , and clarify rules with regards to scamming and greifing that is related to in-game content ( e.g assets ) using out of game mechanism like Teamspeak

5. The fact that after the narcissistic player continued after receiving all possible assets simply for TEAR EXTRACTION , means in m OPINION he took it to far and should be punished.

6. SCAMMING IS LEGAL AND SHOULD STAY THAT WAY

7 . This kind of brutal humiliation of people and psychological bullying through ransom of assets , needs to be stated by CCP to be illegal when using out of game mechanisms. BASICALLY MAKE IT ILLEGAL TO INVITE PEOPLE TO TEAMSPEAK SO FORTH WHEN YOUR SCAMMING THEM . This keeps everything within the EULA by keeping it in-game. As such it can be handled by CCP within the EULA framework

8. CCP should only intervene when there is clear intent to cause psychological harm , to a player not when discord arises as a result of personal disputes relating to everyday in game events. Think B-R local was full of insults put it was not directed at any one person and was both in and out of game .

Just to keep my voice in the conversation.

What Erotica 1 and his "friends" did is bullying. It also happened on the internet, therefore cyber-bullying. Is it the worst form of cyber-bullying that exists no. That doesn't mean that it wasn't.

I not sure what Erotica 1 did broke the current TOS or EULA, but clearly he is well versed in the rules so that he can defend his horrible actions to be allowed to source other victims from in the game. Much like career criminals become well versed in the law and their rights in order to get away with more and more harmful things until the society comes down on them.

Sohkar clearly crossed a line with the threats. Since it sounds like they were made in game chat he should get what ever the normal punishment is for those. Though he did also apologize later.




A few rules that CCP could implement that could help prevent stuff like this in the future or at least punish people like this in the future.

-You are not allowed to scam people out of their in game assets out of the game.

-You are not allowed to incite (bait,coerce, choose best legal word here) people to break the TOS and EULA in or out of game. (though may need wording to allow scams in game)((Which I'm still ok with))

-You may not use Eve Online to find victims to cyber-bully.



Are these rules a little vague, yes, yes they are. Are some of the rules in the TOS and EULA already vague, yes, yes they are.
Would it be horrible if we where decent to each other? While trying to take over New Eden and destroy all competition.

Though in the current TOS it is clear CCP owns all your stuff in game including the value to the time you have played and the value that has. CCP can clearly just take Erotica 1's stuff and ban all his accounts without amending the EULA or TOS at all. If they also published a devblog about it, this would probably be a good enough deterrent to curb some of the worst behavior.

To the trolls in this thread, thank you for providing CCP with ample evidence that there is something really wrong going on that they need to make a decision on.

EVE is a harsh mistress and this is good... I think we all agree on this, he deserved to lose all his stuff he should have just HTFU .

However Erotica is a douche.....I think we can all agree on this. One day he will get his...we are playing a game on the internet and there are 'unstable' people online. Erotica thinks he is immune from harm but if he continues he will one day anger the wrong target.
There are people online who are smarter then him and can find his home address. ( I once spent 3 hours on TS stopping an alliance mate from driving 800 miles with a shotgun to 'punish' another alliance member for disrespecting female corp. mate) . In Erotica's case I wouldn't waste the time and would smile when I saw the news report. And that in a nutshell is CCP's problem because the **** will hit the fan when it happens.

Fail.