EVE General Discussion

stop posting
From: XXXXXXXXX
Sent: 2014.03.26 21:13
To: LUMINOUS SPIRIT,

Dude, 20 bil isk for you if you quietly stop posting.


Interesting. E1 thinks I can be quietly bought off for a mere 20 bil? Lol?

I don't care about criminal charges.
I care about a type of behaviour that I would only call disgusting.

They are both at fault, but Erotica 1's actions are what caused his reaction.

Furthermore, E1 was not harmed by all of this.
Sokhar was.

Dear Erotica,

Long time no see o/. Since I first joined EVE, you've been in the corner of my eye. You put Erotica1 in a noob HS Aussie corp that took me in and tried to teach me a little about EVE (I believe I was 1-2 months along? tops?). For their trouble, you spied out their POS's, had beancounter (alt) Wardec them, and blew up my Cormorant. But, you also took me aside, explained that my fitting was bad and how to improve it, and kicked me ISK to help me along. This was an important lesson in the harshness I had heard about EVE, but also that - hey! maybe even the "baddies" are still respectful, well-meaning members of the EVE community, right? Right? Well sometimes yes, but...

Well, after that you still had me in private convo, so you bragged about your wallet. You flashed me a gif of the total. I asked how you managed to acquire so much. Then you start flashing me images of conversations you'd trolled out of ISK doubling schemes. Tons and tons of them. You seemed to drag these convo's out forever. I remember one I was reading, thinking at the time "Criminy... he's not preying on this guy's greed; he's getting off on this guy's loneliness and despair".

Since then, I've always kept your activities in the corner of my eye. Kind of the same way a person might keep an eye on the old neighbor that always seems to stare way too long out his bay window at the local children playing in the street. I heard about the mayo incident, the C&P threads you and your alts would troll until they were locked, the 'pod yourself to alpha clone' incident, the murmurs and rumors that you were behind scam websites like EVE-Bazaar.com, and countless other stories like these. I've seen the CODE nonsense you band about. Your CSM 'attempts'. I even saw your hissy fit when CCP restored that one guy's SP. I thought you quit the game at that point... guess that was too much to hope.

After that first encounter, you offered to take me in and teach me the ropes. I politely declined and went on my way. Why didn't I take you up on that offer? Because of those convo's you showed me. There's scamming... and then there's what you do. It's cruel. It's creepy.

Parting an idiot from his ISK? By all means - go nuts people. But that's not what you're doing. Sure, you do scam them, but as a means to an end. It's not about the scam. You want to humiliate them. Poke them. Toy with them. Make them cry.

That's not gameplay, and this behavior sure as hell has no place being 'acceptable' in my sandbox. If I'm not being clear enough, I'm saying that I agree you and your alt accounts need a swift and permanent ban.

If anyone doesn't agree with it, you are welcome to follow him out the airlock.

/ Coffee

This way of thinking is wrong.

But the racial abuse did not happen within EULA domain.
Neither did Erotica 1's actions.

You have an issue with reading comprehension: I have already stated that I do not care about what happens to the two of them: I am only arguying the resons of my positions on this matter.

I find Erotica 1's behaviour disgusting, and that's what I'm arguing.

Wrong, Sir.

Erotica1 played on Sokhar's greed, and got him to make a idiot of himself. That does not justify his reaction in any way.

Since this thread is full of BS analogy, let me throw one out there for you people.

There's something adults who are able to form complete sentences like to think about sometimes, and it's called "escalation of force." For example - in many places of the world, if you are attacked in a bar fight by a drunk gentlemen throwing right hooks, and you respond by pulling a Glock and shooting said gentleman in the face, you very well may be going to prison for murder.

Erotica1 making Sokhar look like a fool by playing on his greed - I could see that justifying a "f-you, buddy!" or a simple disconnect from TS3, a block, and moving on with life. I see it justifing adding Erotica1 to your watch list, gathering your friends, running location agents, and camping his station down 23.5/7. Attempting to justify actual RL death threats and some of the most awful racist ranting I have ever personally heard is beyond silly.

Again, Sokhar could have all the e-sympathy in the world if he would simply HTFU, and admit that the death threats and nbombs were uncalled for, that he regrets what he said, and that he is sorry we all heard him engage in that kind of behavior.

I've already offered him every single dime that Erotica1 scammed out of him, and I am sure others would match me.

I do.
I can see how a person can feel abused, after being subjected to provocations and humiliation for over two hours.

And I don't care about what you see.
You are entitled to your own opinion.

If you are arguing nothing, why ar eyou wasting your time with posting?

What im tellling you is that you posistion is simply incorrect.

You and everyone else are free to find the actions disgusting if you like. But the fact that you find those action disgusting but then make excuses for RACISM and DEATH THREATS says worse things about you than Erotica1s' creepy actions say about him.

Why are you making sense in this cesspit of a thread?

D.

You forgot the word voluntarily.