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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#3201 - 2014-03-26 17:47:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Would you like me to also quote the rest of the posts where you condone the use of real life violence being inflicted upon Erotica? Or are you going to shut up before you look like a complete and utter tool?

Well if you are going to raise such a serious allegation against me, you had better do so.

And you had better do so convincingly because I will therafter contact CCP that you are making very serious false and libelous allegations towards me.
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
The ultimate payout might be a roundhouse kick to the face from some random aggrieved loony at Fanfest.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4389003#post4389003
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
just going to point out that you've confirmed your stance that running a scam in a game that encourages scams, is to you, less acceptable than physical violence.


I would laugh and applaud if someone kicked Erotica1 in the face at a Fanfest.
Nothing illegal about laughing or applauding, nor is it against EULA.

I would also laugh and applaud if Erotica1 was banned from the game.
Again, nothing illegal about laughing or applauding, nor is it against EULA.

Wouldn't you?
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4389104#post4389104

Including my original quote that's 3 occasions, that I know of, where you have condoned the use of real life violence being inflicted upon a fellow Eve player.

Please go ahead and contact CCP on the very dubious grounds that I'm making false and libelous accusations about what you did and did not condone, in fact feel free to consult a qualified legal practitioner about where the law stands on making threats of violence over the internet in the legal jurisdiction that you live in. Take the opportunity to also consult them about what libel actually is, especially when what I have written is not libelous at all, but provable fact.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Navi Annages
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3202 - 2014-03-26 17:48:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Navi Annages
Mike Adoulin wrote:
"His bone is with the bullying and the psychological abuse and humiliation that takes place in the bonus room."

Which doesn't exist.

The crap that goes on in 'The Bonus Room' is no different than what people have been doing on game/reality shows for decades.

And they do it for the money/fame. Mostly for the money.

Same idea applies. If it wasn't for their greed overriding their so-called 'common sense', anyone invited into 'The Bonus Room' would quit in the first 30 seconds.

And all they lose is fake internet space money. And oh yeah, the rest of us get to laugh at them as they completely lose their minds and start screaming like spoiled 2-year olds, which emotionally is exactly what they are. And since they are using their EVE-O names, they aren't even 'humiliated' for real. Just in the community of EVE, which, last time I checked, was notorious for this stuff.

I love it when they start issuing death threats and actually engage in real criminal behavior. That's right boys and girls, threatening to find someone and kill or assault them IS enough to get you actually truly for the really-reals ARRESTED. People do get convicted for it. Erotica1 takes it all in stride, since the vast majority of people issuing such threats (especially people that play on-line games) are cowards.

As for 'bullying'......I love how that has become the catch-all phrase for losers and other morons to describe average human behavior. Somebody beats you at Monopoly? Bully. Football team stomps another team 100-0? Bullies. These morons don't even recognize real bullying since they have apparently been brainwashed by their incompetent parents to call ANYTHING which doesn't give them what they want 'bullying.'

So here's to Erotica1, teaching valuable life lessons to morons in EVE for free.
Maybe one of Erotica's 'victims' will actually avoid a REAL fraud or scam because of what happened to them in The Bonus Room. One can only hope, anyway.



I have brought this up on multiple occasions but certain individuals are obviously out on a witch hunt against Erotica and using Sohkar as a scape goat. S

Sohkar will goto jail over this if this ever hits the court system. There is no question about it. Sohkar will talk to his kids in an orange jumpsuit and through a glass wall with a telephone. Mrs. Sohkar will be crying and you witch hunters will be responsible. Especially these names in particular.

Salvos Rhoska - -- -- - - -- - -- -

LUMINOUS SPIRIT - - -- - -- - -- - -

Will you two "White Knights" take blame if Mr. Sohkar goes to jail for RL death threats? If so then awesome. If not then STFU and stop instigating it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8-JfK-wwFU
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#3203 - 2014-03-26 17:49:41 UTC
Capt Starfox wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
Capt Starfox wrote:
but Ero and friends didn't do so to cause in real life mental distress. To try and get some tears? Sure,


Wat?

Making someone cry seems pretty RL distressful to me.

Mr Epeen Cool


He never cried. Yelled a lot, but not cry.

Way to try and lie your way into looking like you know what you're talking about.


I wasn't commenting on what happened. I was commenting on the seeming contradiction of what you said that I quoted. If you are trying to get tears, then you are by definition trying to cause distress. Hope that clears things up for you.

Mr Epeen Cool
Dave Stark
#3204 - 2014-03-26 17:50:06 UTC
160 pages, **** me.

make that 161 between opening my browser, and putting my shirt on...
Giovanni erkelens2
Violent Trans Matching
Neon Nightmares
#3205 - 2014-03-26 17:50:23 UTC
someone give me an aluminium hat and right now.
Salvos Rhoska
#3206 - 2014-03-26 17:50:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Mario Putzo wrote:
Why if Erotica 1 gets assaulted then he can get some real world isk out of the exchange as well. Its funny how ACTUAL breaking of laws works.

Salvos Rhoska wrote:

Yes. Presuming he survives the encounter.
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What are you trying to say with this?

You are the one speculatively hoping that he gets assaulted so he can get some real world isk out of the exchange.

To that I respond sardonically that yes, but you have to survive the attack to get those iskies that you referred to in your speculative hope that he gets assaulted to get them.

Mario. You are barking up the wrong tree. Nothing has been said here that you think has.
This is ********. Stop it.

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Mario Putzo
#3207 - 2014-03-26 17:50:34 UTC
The real belligerent here is Ripard Teg.
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#3208 - 2014-03-26 17:50:42 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
But believe me, Savlos argued so vehemently about it that he definitely has some stake in it.

Thanks for vouching I am not him, or his wife. The similarity in names is amusing, but entirely coincidental.

I just really don't agree with what Erotica1 is doing.

On a moral level and from what I perceive as really serious problems with the legality of it.

I understand that some people enjoy the recordings, but they genuinely seriously make me cringe on a very fundamental level.

I don't like people being exploited so severely for their stupidity, lack of understanding, or possible labileness.
This is a game. I dont want people to suffer in it like this, no matter who they are.

I appreciate that EVE involves, endorses and supports scamming. I appreciate that player aggression is also one of the things that makes this game great. But listening to these recordings I can't, as a person, support it. To me, its like standing by and watching some weak kid get bullied, or an elderly woman being harassed. I hate using the term, but thats exactly how it makes me "feel".

I understand the circumstances are different.
The financial element of the assets is minute, but its something I want gone from the game.

I can't ever just co-exist with it in EVE. I will always resist it in anyway that I can for as long as either it, or I, whichever comes first, are still in the game.


I think a judge or jury who had all the facts would laugh at you, honestly.

"So if the court is to understand, in this game, scamming or defrauding other players of their items is completely protected bu the EULA/TOS?"

Yes your honor, but they scammed them on TEAMSPEAK!

"But the activity itself was related to the game; to this EVE Online?"

Yes your honor, but because they did it over TEAMSPEAK, Erotica 1 was in fact FRAUDING the participant into thinking anyone owned these items! They don't own these items, only CCP does! Therefore they were falsely claiming ownership of the items in order to create a market!

"And what is sold or purchase din this market?"

Game content!

"So they were falsely claiming ownership of in-game items in order to create content... for the game?"

NO! They were holding this innocent man in duress!

At which point I think judge and jury would laugh, honestly.

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
Dave Stark
#3209 - 2014-03-26 17:51:11 UTC
Mario Putzo wrote:
The real belligerent here is Ripard Teg.


you mean starting a witch hunt via your blog isn't an acceptable thing to do?
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3210 - 2014-03-26 17:51:39 UTC
Well, Im flying around high sec, asking people to say NO to cyber-bullying and online predators.

Thank god for new interceptors.

Half of empire - done.
Giovanni erkelens2
Violent Trans Matching
Neon Nightmares
#3211 - 2014-03-26 17:51:48 UTC
those people falling about racism, are the same guys who use the word ****** but just not in local.
Mario Putzo
#3212 - 2014-03-26 17:51:59 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:


What are you trying to say with this?

You are the one speculatively hoping that he gets assaulted so he can get some real world isk out of the exchange.

To that I respond sardonically that yes, but you have to survive the attack to get those iskies that you referred to in your speculative hope that he gets assaulted to get them.

Mario. You are barking up the wrong tree. Nothing has been said here that you think has.


Pages 102-104 for context friend. I wasn't the only one who caught on to what you said. If you forgot what you typed last night and the context it was in you should go back and reread it. I didn't forget which is why I found it so quickly and easily.
Desivo Delta Visseroff
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3213 - 2014-03-26 17:52:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Desivo Delta Visseroff
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Well, Im flying around high sec, asking people to say NO to cyber-bullying and online predators.

Thank god for new interceptors.

Half of empire - done.


Are you linking this Thread???

TwistedTwistedTwisted

Edit: I want to see if we can reach 500 pages of nonsense posts by tomorrow.

I was hunting for sick loot, but all I could get my hands on were 50 corpses[:|]..............[:=d]
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3214 - 2014-03-26 17:53:43 UTC
Desivo Delta Visseroff wrote:
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Well, Im flying around high sec, asking people to say NO to cyber-bullying and online predators.

Thank god for new interceptors.

Half of empire - done.


Are you linking this Thread???

TwistedTwistedTwisted




Stop online predators from cyber-bullying in EVE Online!

Read about the scandal, here
http://evenews24.com/2014/03/25/jesters-trek-the-bonus-round/

Say NO to cyber-bullying in EVE Online.

Tell CCP by posting on the forums.
Salvos Rhoska
#3215 - 2014-03-26 17:54:01 UTC
None of it actually says what you are imagining it does.

I am reporting both of you to CCP for making serious false libelous charges that I have any intent to bodily or otherwise harm Erotica1

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Navi Annages
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3216 - 2014-03-26 17:54:26 UTC
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Well, Im flying around high sec, asking people to say NO to cyber-bullying and online predators.

Thank god for new interceptors.

Half of empire - done.



Please Respond to Post #3202. Or you lose all credibility.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8-JfK-wwFU
stoicfaux
#3217 - 2014-03-26 17:54:26 UTC
Desivo Delta Visseroff wrote:
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Well, Im flying around high sec, asking people to say NO to cyber-bullying and online predators.

Thank god for new interceptors.

Half of empire - done.


Are you linking this Thread???

TwistedTwistedTwisted

Deliberately engaging in actions to slow down or otherwise disrupt server performance *is* a breach of EULA/ToS.

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
lollerwaffle
Perkone
Caldari State
#3218 - 2014-03-26 17:54:40 UTC  |  Edited by: lollerwaffle
Mario Putzo wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:


What are you trying to say with this?

You are the one speculatively hoping that he gets assaulted so he can get some real world isk out of the exchange.

To that I respond sardonically that yes, but you have to survive the attack to get those iskies that you referred to in your speculative hope that he gets assaulted to get them.

Mario. You are barking up the wrong tree. Nothing has been said here that you think has.


Pages 102-104 for context friend. I wasn't the only one who caught on to what you said. If you forgot what you typed last night and the context it was in you should go back and reread it. I didn't forget which is why I found it so quickly and easily.

He literally did not type those exact words and you are being slanderous and libelous. That will be the basis of his reply, although he might not type the EXACT same words I have and therefore it is 'different'.

Simple strokes for simple folks.

EDIT: oops he replied before I did, glad to see such easily predictable behaviour.
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#3219 - 2014-03-26 17:54:44 UTC
Legetus Shmoof Metallii wrote:
Alyth Nerun wrote:
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
...



Its OK buddy. We understand.

But do not worry, a properly worded crime tip to the FBI and other agencies does not go unnoticed.

It might take 6-8 months for them, but they will come.

And with words like ' online predators ' ' luring ' 'vulnerable victims ' 'possibly underage ' 'recorded ' 'tortured and abused ' ' published on the internet '

THEY WILL COME.


And you...you just visualize a cage in a zoo with a monkey in it. Puts things in perspective doesnt it.

Talking about crossing a line. I really really hope this backfires right into your face. Even if it isn't true.

I have seen a lot of toxic crap of all the wannabe white knights in this thread, but this is probably the most disgusting thing I have seen so far.


I will take the word of someone from CODE with less than a grain of salt on this matter. because your goal in game is to do the same general thing, only not to the extent E1 did, and honestly i think given the chance, most loyal-to-James CODEies would do the same thing as E1 did if instructed to. My opinion of course, but having CODE weight in is like having a Cartel member try and defend a caught cartel member in a different country


Translation: You make a valid point and I can't find a way to refute it, so I'm just going to dismiss your entire post to protect my fragile mental stability.

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
Navi Annages
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3220 - 2014-03-26 17:55:14 UTC
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Desivo Delta Visseroff wrote:
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Well, Im flying around high sec, asking people to say NO to cyber-bullying and online predators.

Thank god for new interceptors.

Half of empire - done.


Are you linking this Thread???

TwistedTwistedTwisted




Stop online predators from cyber-bullying in EVE Online!

Read about the scandal, here
http://evenews24.com/2014/03/25/jesters-trek-the-bonus-round/

Say NO to cyber-bullying in EVE Online.

Tell CCP by posting on the forums.


Respond to post #3202 or you lose all credibility.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8-JfK-wwFU