EVE General Discussion

Because they don't exist.

Hey guys, let's get CCP to do something for us again, cause like we can't do it ourselves and while we're at it let's huff and puff on the forums :carebears:

Exactly as I expected.

The clear reason being that you never actually linked any criminal codes as you claimed. If you did, they would be there and they aren't that I have been able to find.

That whole aspect of this thread based around certainty that a judge and jury would rule against Eortica 1 was based on complete fantasy it seems.

There was never any actual legal basis for making those claims and your claim that you linked the criminal codes was false.

It was an error in haste on my part, now corrected.
I did also apologise.

Well, I commonly forward information to several news agencies about real world events and since this crossed over to the real world I forwarded the information. Hopefully one of them will do a piece on cyberbullying and how responsible CCP is for all this.

my opinion on this is the simple

1 - The Victim is at fault for falling for the scam .Scamming should stay legal and a legit method in game.

2 - The scammer went to far , out of some narcissistic need , and should be punished not for the legit scam. But for taking it too far with the 2 hours of humiliation that came afterwards.

3 - CCP need to implement a guideline policy for these situations .SCAMMING SHOULD STAY LEGAL , but PROLONGED TEAR EXTRACTION , should BE ADVISED AGAINST. It should be understood if you take it TOO FAR (as in this case) THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES

I hope that CCP comes down hard on this. If not outright banning perpetrators then at least modifying EULA in a way so this would be considered a major offence in the future.

I've got 2 problems with the whole bonus room concept:
1. It uses EvE ecosystem as a honeypot. It filters out the weak and susceptible so that they could be coer... persuaded to join out of game voice comms.
2. They use TS, an out of game, unsupervised and unpoliced solution, to abuse victims for hours and hours. If you recollect two weeks ago CCP contacted a law enforcement to possibly prevent a suicide. Why? Because a player had announced in local chat that he'd blow his brains out. It was all it took for CCP to intervene.
Now with this TS "bonus room" we've got an unsupervised system that consist of a victim and X number of perpetrators who's main goal is to make emotional abuse last as long as possible. And they will do what is necessary to debase the victim psychologically so that he/she would break for the lulz.
Do you believe that "bonus room" perpetrators would contact CCP or law enforcement if a victim would threaten self-harm, like really?

You can scam all you want in EvE sandbox, but the moment you use EvE as a tool for out of game coercion your rights for "emergent gameplay" should end.

To use a similar analogy, Sohkar is the sad person sitting feeding coins into the slots, hoping for that big payout and telling themselves they can beat the house. Along comes the management with a free drink and a smile, egging them on.

Sohkar could have got up from that chair, told the manager with dignity and pride exactly what he thought of him, and walked out of the casino, like so many others. Instead he chose to hurl racial abuse and hulksmash until he was escorted out by security.

And Jester waves a placard and a megaphone with the increasingly violent protest outside the casino, calling for casinos to be closed and the managers to be lynched to protect people who won't protect themselves.

Meanwhile, a nice little old lady wins the jackpot and buys all her grandkids a new Vindicator.

The thing is though it was the "victim's" choice to stay and participate. So now what? He made a conscious decision to continue. At any point throughout the "scam" he could have left, but he didn't for about 2 hours.

It is the fault of the victim for the scam, however, it is also the fault of the victim for staying and allegedly/supposedly being used for "prolonged tear extraction."

You mean about how CCP has precise zero responsibility for this and that trying to blame them for a situation they had no control over is absolutely ludicrous.