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Salvos Rhoska
#2141 - 2014-03-26 06:33:57 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:


You're going to have to be more specific about what law he's breaking, and where it applies. Please provide citations. Some precedent-setting cases would also be nice.

Read the thread.

Also, you have not responded to mail.
Navi Annages
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2142 - 2014-03-26 06:33:57 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Mikey Aivo wrote:
whats illegal about please send me your stuff?

ps

please contract me your items


There is nothing illegal about his ingame activities.
There is a great deal illegal about him extending those activities to outside of the game, on false premise.
And a great deal relating to that, that CCP should imo take very seriously.

In EVE, fine.
Out of EVE, Id take the case if I could.

@Chaka: This isnt about the items. Those he has already legitimately aquired, before the out of game illegitimacy begins.


The clerk at the grocery store gave me a mean look today. I feel humiliated and raped as other customers saw the clerk gave me the negative look. Will you help me win this case?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8-JfK-wwFU

Dagar Bly
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#2143 - 2014-03-26 06:34:43 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Mikey Aivo wrote:
whats illegal about please send me your stuff?

ps

please contract me your items


There is nothing illegal about his ingame activities.
There is a great deal illegal about him extending those activities to outside of the game, on false premise.
And a great deal relating to that, that CCP should imo take very seriously.

In EVE, fine.
Out of EVE, Id take the case if I could.

@Chaka: This isnt about the items. Those he has already legitimately aquired, before the out of game illegitimacy begins.
Im typing on a pad, angry grammar ****.


And you'd be laughed out of your career, and probably disbarred. gg

http://eveportraitcontest.webs.com

Salvos Rhoska
#2144 - 2014-03-26 06:35:30 UTC
Navi Annages wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Mikey Aivo wrote:
whats illegal about please send me your stuff?

ps

please contract me your items


There is nothing illegal about his ingame activities.
There is a great deal illegal about him extending those activities to outside of the game, on false premise.
And a great deal relating to that, that CCP should imo take very seriously.

In EVE, fine.
Out of EVE, Id take the case if I could.

@Chaka: This isnt about the items. Those he has already legitimately aquired, before the out of game illegitimacy begins.


The clerk at the grocery store gave me a mean look today. I feel humiliated and raped as other customers saw the clerk gave me the negative look. Will you help me win this case?


Sure. For 500mil upfront, 100mil per hour of consultation, and 30% of any damages awarded.
Cha'ka Khan
Dark Skies Dojo
#2145 - 2014-03-26 06:35:47 UTC
***Samuel Jackson voice here*** ENGLISH MOTHAFUCKA!!!!!!! DO YOU SPEAK IT?

The only thing we have to fear, is new pilots and AFK miners. 

Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#2146 - 2014-03-26 06:36:20 UTC
Salvos Rhoska you gonna join comms? :)

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2147 - 2014-03-26 06:36:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:


You're going to have to be more specific about what law he's breaking, and where it applies. Please provide citations. Some precedent-setting cases would also be nice.

Read the thread.

Also, you have not responded to mail.


No, anything you have to say to me, you can say here. I deleted that mail the moment I received it, then blocked you from any in-game personal communications with me. It's a personal policy of mine. Based on past experience, people who think they can get the 'upper hand' in debate generally tend towards pulling the person that is outmatching them out of the public sphere first, before attempting various forms of passive-aggressive tactics to infuriate their target. If there is a public discussion going, keep it public.

Also, I've been keeping up with the entire thread. You haven't cited anything, you've only made claims.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#2148 - 2014-03-26 06:37:51 UTC
Foxstar Damaskeenus wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:


Riptard has done more to generate interest in my campaign than I have. LOL






Not only do you have no problem putting up peoples audio on the internet after humiliating and badgering them. You seem to have disdain for the mentally handicapped by referring to Ripard as "riptard" an obvious play on ******.

And lets face it, the person who fell for your pathetic scam was obviously mentally challenged. You disgust me more than anyone I have met in the game.

The fact that you are still here trolling has made me lose quite a bit of respect for CCP today.


I thought that was his name. I apologize.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.

Endovior
PFU Consortium
#2149 - 2014-03-26 06:38:24 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:


You're going to have to be more specific about what law he's breaking, and where it applies. Please provide citations. Some precedent-setting cases would also be nice.

Read the thread.

Also, you have not responded to mail.


You've not been specific thus far. Also, to be frank, your insinuations read like uninformed quasi-legalistic rantings, essentially no more than vague threats. Closer to 'this ought to be illegal' than 'this specific article of this specific law makes this thing illegal'.
Navi Annages
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2150 - 2014-03-26 06:39:06 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Navi Annages wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Mikey Aivo wrote:
whats illegal about please send me your stuff?

ps

please contract me your items


There is nothing illegal about his ingame activities.
There is a great deal illegal about him extending those activities to outside of the game, on false premise.
And a great deal relating to that, that CCP should imo take very seriously.

In EVE, fine.
Out of EVE, Id take the case if I could.

@Chaka: This isnt about the items. Those he has already legitimately aquired, before the out of game illegitimacy begins.


The clerk at the grocery store gave me a mean look today. I feel humiliated and raped as other customers saw the clerk gave me the negative look. Will you help me win this case?


Sure. For 500mil upfront, 100mil per hour of consultation, and 30% of any damages awarded.


Considering how cheap your prices are I can afford to splurge on a real lawyer. I hope you don't continue defending Sohkar. His poor children will only ever see him through a glass wall and talk to him on a telephone. He'll be wearing an orange jumpsuit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8-JfK-wwFU

Mikey Aivo
Original Sinners
Pandemic Legion
#2151 - 2014-03-26 06:40:58 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Navi Annages wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Mikey Aivo wrote:
whats illegal about please send me your stuff?

ps

please contract me your items


There is nothing illegal about his ingame activities.
There is a great deal illegal about him extending those activities to outside of the game, on false premise.
And a great deal relating to that, that CCP should imo take very seriously.

In EVE, fine.
Out of EVE, Id take the case if I could.

@Chaka: This isnt about the items. Those he has already legitimately aquired, before the out of game illegitimacy begins.


The clerk at the grocery store gave me a mean look today. I feel humiliated and raped as other customers saw the clerk gave me the negative look. Will you help me win this case?


Sure. For 500mil upfront, 100mil per hour of consultation, and 30% of any damages awarded.


if you send me that money and enter my bonus room ill give 5x back when u complete the challange
Navi Annages
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2152 - 2014-03-26 06:42:28 UTC
Mikey Aivo wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Navi Annages wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Mikey Aivo wrote:
whats illegal about please send me your stuff?

ps

please contract me your items


There is nothing illegal about his ingame activities.
There is a great deal illegal about him extending those activities to outside of the game, on false premise.
And a great deal relating to that, that CCP should imo take very seriously.

In EVE, fine.
Out of EVE, Id take the case if I could.

@Chaka: This isnt about the items. Those he has already legitimately aquired, before the out of game illegitimacy begins.


The clerk at the grocery store gave me a mean look today. I feel humiliated and raped as other customers saw the clerk gave me the negative look. Will you help me win this case?


Sure. For 500mil upfront, 100mil per hour of consultation, and 30% of any damages awarded.


if you send me that money and enter my bonus room ill give 5x back when u complete the challange


Oh heck yea. I got invited to the bonus round.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8-JfK-wwFU

PotatoOverdose
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#2153 - 2014-03-26 06:44:13 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
PotatoOverdose wrote:
The question is: should being an ass hole be a bannable offense?


For certain degrees of ******* that incorporate sociopathic public mocking rituals, yes.

Is it "fun" to get your friend blind drunk and then handcuff him to a light post in the middle of the CBD just in time for peak hour?

Ok, so where do we draw the line? The "bonus room" is unacceptable? Ok.

What about burn Jita? Many tens of thousands of people think Goons are ass holes for burn Jita. Should we start banning Goons? What about the "code" people that harass miners. They're plenty dickish and make people rage as hard as anyone else. Ban for them too?

I was once on a fleet, a birthday fleet for a friend. We were in lowsec, we tackled a venture. Told the pilot he could either sing happy birthday on comms to the birthday dude, or get his ship popped. He sung the song in comms, we let him go. Should we be banned too?
Do we convene a plebiscite on the forums every time someone acts like a total douche?

Eve may well be a better place if Erotica 1 is banned in general, but I do not believe Eve would be a better place if Erotica 1 was banned just for being king of the douches. That's just not a good enough reason (imo).
Salvos Rhoska
#2154 - 2014-03-26 06:44:21 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
No, anything you have to say to me, you can say here. I deleted that mail the moment I received it, then blocked you from any in-game personal communications with me. It's a personal policy of mine. Based on past experience, people who think they can get the 'upper hand' in debate generally tend towards pulling the person that is outmatching them out of the public sphere first, before attempting various forms of passive-aggressive tactics to infuriate their target. If there is a public discussion going, keep it public..


That is your prerogative, but also your loss for not having read it.

I will hereby institute a personal policy to match your own, of ignoring all ingame communication from you. Period.
Foxstar Damaskeenus
why did i join this corp
Not Purple Shoot It.
#2155 - 2014-03-26 06:45:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Foxstar Damaskeenus
I think people are really missing the point with the legal/illegal stuff.

The person in question took audio of another player that he connected with in game and unknowingly to the victim began an outward public humiliation and badgering of him.

Using Eve to **** with people in real life has to be in the Eula somewhere.


I'm taking this whole thing personal. I had another player whom I asked to buzz off and put on ignore and didn't stop there. They kept creating accounts and characters and contacting me, even going to the point of using out of game/non CCP means to contact me. It is still going on a year later.

Scam people and move on, blow up someones ship, be mad for a few minutes for getting ganked and move on. This Erotica 1 person is deliberately badgering other players in an excessive and unnecessary manner and possibly causing real life harm and consequences. That is a very clear line to cross.

Sadly trolling/bullying is perfectly fine to a lot of people, just read these forums or ask for help in the in game help channel, and even sadder to me most of the people who I meet in game that do this are Americans.

Forgit it, CCP just eject the guy in to space so he can be podded, problem solved.

"[this thread] is a cesspit of trolling and flaming" ISD Buldath

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#2156 - 2014-03-26 06:45:51 UTC
Look guys, I was going to do a "bonus round to end all bonus rounds" tonight and invite all of my forum critics in. Even if I have to pay out 5 trillion isk and never do another bonus round again, it would be totally worth it. Clearly anyone who has followed this knows how to win by now, so you can all see first hand that everything is completely legitimate if you make it to the end.

But I am sleepy now as I have been trying to get to the end of this neverending thread all day. Maybe tomorrow!

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2157 - 2014-03-26 06:47:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
No, anything you have to say to me, you can say here. I deleted that mail the moment I received it, then blocked you from any in-game personal communications with me. It's a personal policy of mine. Based on past experience, people who think they can get the 'upper hand' in debate generally tend towards pulling the person that is outmatching them out of the public sphere first, before attempting various forms of passive-aggressive tactics to infuriate their target. If there is a public discussion going, keep it public..


That is your prerogative, but also your loss for not having read it.

I will hereby institute a personal policy to match your own, of ignoring all ingame communication from you. Period.


I haven't tried to contact you in-game. You still haven't cited these laws you claim, so stop trying to dodge it. Did you even attend law school? They teach you how to cite your sources there, don't they?

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

arabella blood
Keyboard Jihad
#2158 - 2014-03-26 06:47:52 UTC
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Mara Rinn wrote:
PotatoOverdose wrote:
The question is: should being an ass hole be a bannable offense?


For certain degrees of ******* that incorporate sociopathic public mocking rituals, yes.

Is it "fun" to get your friend blind drunk and then handcuff him to a light post in the middle of the CBD just in time for peak hour?

Ok, so where do we draw the line? The "bonus room" is unacceptable? Ok.

What about burn Jita? Many tens of thousands of people think Goons are ass holes for burn Jita. Should we start banning Goons? What about the "code" people that harass miners. They're plenty dickish and make people rage as hard as anyone else. Ban for them too?

I was once on a fleet, a birthday fleet for a friend. We were in lowsec, we tackled a venture. Told the pilot he could either sing happy birthday on comms to the birthday dude, or get his ship popped. He sung the song in comms, we let him go. Should we be banned too?
Do we convene a plebiscite on the forums every time someone acts like a total douche?

Eve may well be a better place if Erotica 1 is banned in general, but I do not believe Eve would be a better place if Erotica 1 was banned just for being king of the douches. That's just not a good enough reason (imo).


Imo theres no need for any line. It is CCP policy to examin the cases one by one and deciding. Setting up a rule here is totally not needed, from both sides of the argument.

Troll for hire. Cheap prices.

Navi Annages
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2159 - 2014-03-26 06:48:00 UTC
Erotica 1 for CSM!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8-JfK-wwFU

Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#2160 - 2014-03-26 06:48:51 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
Look guys, I was going to do a "bonus round to end all bonus rounds" tonight and invite all of my forum critics in. Even if I have to pay out 5 trillion isk and never do another bonus round again, it would be totally worth it. Clearly anyone who has followed this knows how to win by now, so you can all see first hand that everything is completely legitimate if you make it to the end.

But I am sleepy now as I have been trying to get to the end of this neverending thread all day. Maybe tomorrow!

Man... after listening to all of this I want to RUN a Bonus Round! I'm a smooth talking mofo... you're doing great work. I say keep it up!

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