EVE General Discussion

Most of us did. That's what happens when some people are deliberately pushed to their limit. If you think actions leading to provoke such response have no consequence then you are delusional.

http://jestertrek.blogspot.ca/2012/03/hats.html

Ripard Teg ladies and gentlemen.

Lets ban a guy for scamming, but hey Mittens should be ok as a CSM for telling a kid to literally kill himself.

SLOW CLAP Ripard SLOW CLAP.

Not if you say you consent to being recorded and are aware that the recording may be posted to social media sites. This happens in... every... Bonus Round.

Mario you keep repeating yourself about being able to leave. He could leave but under the threat of loss, Thats called duress. Another issue and its not yours is the greed aspect that is being used to turn the table onto the victim. Erotica constantly fanned the desire by telling him repeatedly to "think about what your going to do with your winnings". This is called reinforcement. The "your winnings" idea is a neurolinguisitcs programming component. Besides reinforcing, it also paints an optimistic picture while in a no-win scenario. In technical turns its called inducing state followed by building resources. Soon it has to be followed with more implications of safety and a transformation of associations of apprehension into excitement. Most excitement has an element of fear.

This I thought was obvious to everybody but your repeated questioning of his inability to leave leads me to believe you don't honestly understand. Erotica is actually inducing a state of trance, an awake hypnosis. As soon as I heard the processed voice I knew. beware the lack of dipthongs at the end of a clause.

Excuse or reason. You choose what fits you better.

I'll go with "excuse", because as soon as someone asked you to quote the EULA, you knew you were boned.

Have a good one.

82 83 pages already? Sheesh.

Anyway, my first thought was that Jester is bashing Erotica in revenge for some slight. EVE and cynicism, amirite?

Just how repulsive and relentlessly obnoxious does a person have to be before i can take action against them without being compared to le ultimate villain?

Serious question.

"C. User Content

The System may allow you to communicate information, such as by posting messages in chat rooms, on bulletin boards and other user-to-user areas (collectively, "User Content").

User Content that you cause to be communicated to the System may not (i) violate any statute, rule, regulation or law; (ii) infringe or violate the intellectual property, proprietary, privacy or publicity rights of any third party"

Erotica1 is communicating, ingame, through means of chat functions and bulletin boards that he provides a service OUTSIDE of the game, namely the "Bonus Room".

What that "Bonus Room" has turned out to be, as evidenced by the recording, is a 2hr psychological torture, coerced by the players seized assets and leveraged against the false promise of its return if the person completes the humiliating, degrading and arbitrary demands issued to him by the persons located in this out of game environment, while simultaneously harassing, ridiculing and insulting him.

The conduct the victims are subjected to in this OUT OF GAME environment, once they have been successfully isolated and sourced out of the EVE client community, violates laws. The fact recordings of this "User Content" are made and distributed through chat rooms, bulletin boards and other user-to-user areas means the victims publicity rights as a third party, have been violated. At no time during the recording does anyone ask if the victim consents to the recording being distributed as "User Content", through "User Content" means.

This specific form of "User Content" that Erotica1 is orchestrating, results in victimisation of CCP clients, as sourced from within the game, for purposes of placing them under duress and subjecting them to humiliating, degrading and other negative conduct that is delineated against in 6.A.5.

"You may not submit any content to any chat room or other public forum within the Game that is harassing, abusive, threatening, harmful, obscene, libelous or defamatory, encourages conduct that could constitute a criminal offense or give rise to civil liabilities, or is unlawful in any other way, including without limitation the submission of content that infringes on a third-party’s intellectual property rights."

To my view, CCP has two choices on this matter.

Either recognise that the TS environment represented as the "Bonus Room" constitutes a valid submission of "User Content" and is therefore to be considered subservient to all parts of the EULA, or to recognise that Erotica1 is predating on the client base of EVE by means of submitting User Content to redirect clients to his personal "Bonus Room" from within the game and its protective EULA, to where EVE players are subjected to this treatment by extension from the game.

Either case renders him in violation of the EULA.

The first would mean that all non-game environments that include any User Content, in any of its forms, becomes subject to the EULA. Meaning everything that happens in that TS is subject to EULA. It is, however, practically impossible, because that would mean that anywhere there are EVE players, the EULA automatically applies, including any and all voice comms.

The second is simply taking action against Erotica1 for predating on the EVE player base for the victims to fill his personal, out of game, "Bonus Room" (and subjecting them there to what is detailed above) under the pretense it is "User Content", which they can freely rule it not to be, or to be "User Content" which they deem to be unacceptable.

Newsflash: Scroll up. Erotica 1 gets consent from every client to be recorded with the knowledge that the recording may be posted to social media sites. Not your fault, you probably didn't see the comment.