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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#1621 - 2014-03-26 02:33:25 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
baltec1 wrote:

To my knowledge she wasn't underage,


Not good enough. That simple half sentence begs for more detail. Much more.

C'mon. Spill.

Mr Epeen Cool


It wasn't a mintchip event but it ticked the oddity checkbox. I'm not sure I can say what exactly it was here but at least half of us swear we saw a left nut.
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1622 - 2014-03-26 02:33:27 UTC
Xuixien wrote:


Jester's post was written after the Massively post. He's trying to coat tail on Erotica 1.


Jester's first post is what lit the fire for this witch burning and is what the Massively article links to. He made a second post later in the day about it which is probably what you saw.

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#1623 - 2014-03-26 02:33:46 UTC
PinkPanter wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
PinkPanter wrote:


Go find it goon. I ain't gonna hold your hand. It's a tuff world and if you don't like my answers you can stop posting and leave oh and HTFU etc etc etc.

Kinda funny don't you think?


You are the one saying E1 has broken the EULA. You have to show the evidence to back up your claim, not me.


I don't have to do anything. I'm only stating my opinions and certainly not trying to teach a goon reading comprehension.

And that's because I was active in the shittani thread and no matter what was stated you knew better. There's just no point.


Saying "It's against the EULA" is not an opinion. You're making a claim to something being a fact.

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#1624 - 2014-03-26 02:34:23 UTC
Xuixien wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Jessica Danikov wrote:
Not sure if it's been linked yet, but it seems it is starting to make the rounds on mainstream media: http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/03/25/heres-some-of-the-cyberbullying-that-happens-in-eve-online/

“Sunlight is the best disinfectant.” Maybe a little visibility and transparency within the EVE community and outside of it will be what does the most good.


"Source: EVE News 24"

Jesus ****


Yeah, that was pretty funny.

I do wonder what Ripard is up to, though. Clearly he's trying to force a confrontation with CCP on the matter by trying a media blitz after his own fashion. As evidenced by his use of as much hot button, inflamatory, charged language as he can shovel into his blog.

Did he just not get his way on something, and is throwing this tantrum now?


Jester's post was written after the Massively post. He's trying to coat tail on Erotica 1.

Massively references Jester's article.

Time warp? Or are you just really stretching to make some nebulous point?

Mr Epeen Cool
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#1625 - 2014-03-26 02:35:40 UTC
Okay I'm at 1:40+ mark.

The client is screaming at Erotica 1 and threatening to kill him in real life.

All because he was asked to sing a song.

All sympathy I might have had for this "victim", is gone.

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
Agent Lazuli
Doomheim
#1626 - 2014-03-26 02:36:00 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Did he just not get his way on something, and is throwing this tantrum now?


I think Ripard's mother forced his hand. She is mentioned quite frequently in his latest tirade. Personally I would not subject my mother to Sohkar's racist abuse.

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Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#1627 - 2014-03-26 02:36:27 UTC
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
Xuixien wrote:


Jester's post was written after the Massively post. He's trying to coat tail on Erotica 1.


Jester's first post is what lit the fire for this witch burning and is what the Massively article links to. He made a second post later in the day about it which is probably what you saw.


Ah okay, thanks for clearing that up!

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
Mario Putzo
#1628 - 2014-03-26 02:36:42 UTC
Ripards blog post came after the Massively thing, and it is entirely a one sided oped about an opponent in the CSM race. This is clearly a propaganda piece meant to disenfranchise Erotica 1's CSM campaign.

Shots have been fired.

Do you think he cares about the "victim" he is capitalizing on an opportunity to sink a competitor because he is a weak CSM member and fears his seat will not be there next session.
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#1629 - 2014-03-26 02:38:09 UTC
Mario Putzo wrote:
Ripards blog post came after the Massively thing, and it is entirely a one sided oped about an opponent in the CSM race. This is clearly a propaganda piece meant to disenfranchise Erotica 1's CSM campaign.


I knew he had an angle, I just didn't know what it was. :)

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1630 - 2014-03-26 02:38:14 UTC
Xuixien wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Mario Putzo wrote:
Then why didn't he leave the conversation?


Its irrelevant. Mail him and ask yourself if you wish for an answer to that question.

None of what happened in the TS "Bonus Room" is any of CCPs concern or business.

What is of concern to CCP and the community at large, is Erotica1s activities of actively predating on the community for victims with ingame scams that he extends to OUTSIDE THE GAME.

You cant do that. Its against the EULA.

Scams are fine within the game, it is NOT ok to scam people OUTSIDE the game.


Does CCP really have jurisdiction outside of the game?

They have a responsibility to their users to exercise due care and diligence. If they are aware that a player (erotica 1) is deliberately targeting vulnerable players, using the game to manipulate them into going onto teamspeak to be subjected to humiliation, bullying and harassment to the extent that the player could potentially harm themselves or cause harm to others then they have a responsibility to deal with that since its originating in game.

There is also a section in the EULA which deals with criminal acts. Recording and publishing information that should be private, as in private conversations is defamation, is a breach of privacy. You cannot record a private conversation and publish that conversation on the EvE forums without breaking the law. The person must be told they are being recorded and the person must give consent to that recording being published.

If Erotica 1 was using a 3rd party website to lure victims for its sick game then that'd be different but he is using in game and the EvE O forums.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#1631 - 2014-03-26 02:39:40 UTC
Mildew Wolf wrote:
This is almost as good as the "welcome mintchip" thread


Whatever happened to her, anyway?

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#1632 - 2014-03-26 02:40:12 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Mario Putzo wrote:
Then why didn't he leave the conversation?


Its irrelevant. Mail him and ask yourself if you wish for an answer to that question.

None of what happened in the TS "Bonus Room" is any of CCPs concern or business.

What is of concern to CCP and the community at large, is Erotica1s activities of actively predating on the community for victims with ingame scams that he extends to OUTSIDE THE GAME.

You cant do that. Its against the EULA.

Scams are fine within the game, it is NOT ok to scam people OUTSIDE the game.


Does CCP really have jurisdiction outside of the game?

They have a responsibility to their users to exercise due care and diligence. If they are aware that a player (erotica 1) is deliberately targeting vulnerable players, using the game to manipulate them into going onto teamspeak to be subjected to humiliation, bullying and harassment to the extent that the player could potentially harm themselves or cause harm to others then they have a responsibility to deal with that since its originating in game.

There is also a section in the EULA which deals with criminal acts. Recording and publishing information that should be private, as in private conversations is defamation, is a breach of privacy. You cannot record a private conversation and publish that conversation on the EvE forums without breaking the law. The person must be told they are being recorded and the person must give consent to that recording being published.

If Erotica 1 was using a 3rd party website to lure victims for its sick game then that'd be different but he is using in game and the EvE O forums.



You should listen to the recording before you comment.
PinkPanter
Valhalla Drinking Team
#1633 - 2014-03-26 02:40:48 UTC
Xuixien wrote:
PinkPanter wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
PinkPanter wrote:


Go find it goon. I ain't gonna hold your hand. It's a tuff world and if you don't like my answers you can stop posting and leave oh and HTFU etc etc etc.

Kinda funny don't you think?


You are the one saying E1 has broken the EULA. You have to show the evidence to back up your claim, not me.


I don't have to do anything. I'm only stating my opinions and certainly not trying to teach a goon reading comprehension.

And that's because I was active in the shittani thread and no matter what was stated you knew better. There's just no point.


Saying "It's against the EULA" is not an opinion. You're making a claim to something being a fact.


It must be since there are exactly two sides in this topic both strongly believing they are correct.

Another example of different perspective and while in EULA case only it's creators have the last words on its interpretation, in E1 case it's all about moral limits.

Those are facts and quite obvious actually problem is CCP is a money hungry ***** so it will do whatever serves best it's interests and it will have nothing to do with moral or legal implications. Just business.
EI Digin
irc.zulusquad.org
#1634 - 2014-03-26 02:41:45 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
There is also a section in the EULA which deals with criminal acts. Recording and publishing information that should be private, as in private conversations is defamation, is a breach of privacy. You cannot record a private conversation and publish that conversation on the EvE forums without breaking the law. The person must be told they are being recorded and the person must give consent to that recording being published.


I don't think you know how the law works.
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#1635 - 2014-03-26 02:42:06 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
They have a responsibility to their users to exercise due care and diligence. If they are aware that a player (erotica 1) is deliberately targeting vulnerable players, using the game to manipulate them into going onto teamspeak to be subjected to humiliation, bullying and harassment to the extent that the player could potentially harm themselves or cause harm to others then they have a responsibility to deal with that since its originating in game.


Can you... quote that from anywhere? Cuz right now it's just you saying it on the forums.

Infinity Ziona wrote:
There is also a section in the EULA which deals with criminal acts. Recording and publishing information that should be private, as in private conversations is defamation, is a breach of privacy. You cannot record a private conversation and publish that conversation on the EvE forums without breaking the law. The person must be told they are being recorded and the person must give consent to that recording being published.


Fortunately, all clients are asked if they... consent... to being recorded. And they do.

I think maybe your problem is not... having all the information here? :)

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1636 - 2014-03-26 02:42:23 UTC
Looks like E1 and Co. are trying to do damage control and shift blame anywhere they can.

First they tried shifting to the victim. Community didint buy that BS.

Now E1 is trying to shift blame on Ripard.

Frankly, it smacks of desperation.

Permabans for E1 and Co.

Say NO to cyber-bullying and emotional **** of vulnerable people.
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#1637 - 2014-03-26 02:42:24 UTC
Wesley Otsdarva wrote:
I would like everyone to take a little time. Google "Eve Online" and look under news.

The first Article gives off a "bit" of bad press. As it is titled "Here's some of the Cyberbullying that happens in EVE online"

Was it actually bullying according to the definitions? Idk, could sohkar of left? yes. Could E1 of just stopped, yes.

But it is every player in this game that contributes to Articles being titled like that. Gives a really bad vibe to non eve players. Just look in massively's comment section. Quite a few say they will never try eve because of stuff like this. And who's to really blame.

We are. The whole eve community was born on HTFU and ate scams for breakfast. Now it's just toxic. (turns out scams aren't a part of a daily nutritional breakfast)

Idk about you guys, but i'm ashamed to be a part of a community that condones this.


Then leave. Jesus H Christ, EVE isn't real life, you don't have to be here.
Shizuken
Venerated Stars
#1638 - 2014-03-26 02:42:39 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:


Recording and publishing information that should be private, as in private conversations is defamation, is a breach of privacy. You cannot record a private conversation and publish that conversation on the EvE forums without breaking the law.



Indeed. It violates nearly every US wiretap statute.
Agent Lazuli
Doomheim
#1639 - 2014-03-26 02:42:43 UTC
Feyth Yinleq wrote:
Good luck with that, you're in for a treat.


Feyth one point I do find very troubling is that you appear not to have a valid mining permit. I hope you attend to that oversight as soon as possible.

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Winchester Steele
#1640 - 2014-03-26 02:42:48 UTC
Feyth Yinleq wrote:
Winchester Steele wrote:
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Feyth Yinleq wrote:
Says the guy who laughed, had his wife and children laugh at a poor guy being humiliated by a sociopath. Not brilliant yourself, are you ?


If it is true that he got his kids to laugh at this, that's unpleasant.

It's not close to on par with making repeated threats of real-life violence like people are in this thread.


Or the vomiting out of racist slurs and threats to kill by the contestant.



Now I normally like your posts but I take offence to this. My two teenage sons are fully cognizant and intelligent humans capable of making their own judgements and I am not much of a person to collymoddle anyone, especially my children. If you want to see what sheltering your kids does to them, just look through this thread at all the people who think what Ero did was "bullying". This kind of thinking is a direct product of the bubble wrap brigade.

As I stated though, once the racism and death threats came out, laughing time ended and they were asked to leave.

Edit: also, to further clarify. I didn't "get" my kids to laugh at this. They laughed because it was ******* hilarious.


Strange cause when I listened to the recording, I never found it laughable, even less hilarious. I found it pathetic and sad.

You say you did not get your kids to laugh at it, but the impact of your own laughing on their reactions cannot be neglected. That's the way it goes, children mimic their parents, and not only when they are 2-year-old.

So please stop pretending you're a model of education for the world to follow. What I read from you before does not stand for it.
There is no excuse for the pathetic demonstration Erotica 1 did here, and justifying it with a "it was just for fun" makes it even more despicable.



Yawn. Get off your soap box would ya? You sound like a real ass.

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