EVE General Discussion

Considering youre wrong, and plex/aur is not actually worth jack in real cash, yes, you can actually buy aurum and plex for real cash, but its an ingame item, you dont own ingame items or assets, theyre CCPs.

So youre wrong, get over it.

I wouldn't argue those things, because that would be ******* stupid, not because I'm not a lawyer. Your example describes a breach of contract. Its basically the same in the bonus room, except that a the lolipop contract holds up in a court of law (in principle) while the Eve contract concerning pixel spaceships would not.

EVE is an internet spaceship game. It is not a Teamspeak game where we coerce people to do humiliating stupid things, and pressure them into an emotional frenzy. There are a number of defenders for Erotica1 here who seem to have forgotten that the EVE sandbox has boundaries based on the relevance to internet spaceships on one company's set of servers.

A good sportsman can congratulate, be friendly, and kind to his opponents. Poor winners disrespect their opponents, gloat and continuously remind the losers of their loss. It is utterly clear that Erotica1 is a terrible sportsman, who does not understand the boundaries of EVE the internet spaceship game. Why am I seeing all these complaints about sore losers, but nothing about the bad winners? Sportsmanship must be cultivated among all players.

The boundaries of EVE are all of those things which bring you advantage within the game. Scamming, ganking, and stealing of in game items are all obviously part of the EVE game. The meta game including spying obviously can also bring in game advantages. EVE has a rich and interesting meta game, but all of that should provide additional advantages in game.

Erotica1 successfully scammed Sohkar out of everything. Congratulations! Erotica1 continued to humiliate Sohkar after he had all of his stuff. Reprehensible! That was bad sportsmanship. It may have been illegal. CCP may wish to provide sanctions so as to reduce the effects of these events on their game. They may also wish to figure out policies which improve sportsmanship in the game for everyone.

Hahahahahahahaha How The **** Is Cyber Bullying Real Hahahaha ***** Just Walk Away From The Screen Like ***** Close Your Eyes Haha

That would be for Erotica 1 to tell you but I will say that we had no issues with the scams.

Also, why was no one having issues with this supposed "blackmailing" or "extortion" when a few years ago at fanfest, one of the CSM members had a bunch of teamspeak recordings where they had caught people in, iirc, their wormhole, and they had people sing songs on their teamspeak to be let go as a form of ransom.
How is this different? I dont know if the people who sang on these recordings were allowed to go free afterwards, but I dont see the difference, and back then, it was a hilarious and awesome idea, now because erotica 1 does it, and because maybe hes getting different results. Its terrible and its against the law and he should be banned, seriously?

Also, its not like any of this is personal in any way, granted, I can imagine it might FEEL personal to the person it happens to, but in EVE, we are just a few clicks away from being a completely different person with different looks and a different name.
Its not like kids being bullied at school only to go home and have their facebook spammed with insults, thats something you cant quite escape in the same way we can just ignore whatever anyone says in EVE.
And its not directed at us the same way it is in EVE, we are anonymous, whats is really being "insulted" and "made fun of" are our EVE characters.

Or maybe Im just really being incapable of feeling the emotions of my dear forum warrior character? Not sure.

Arg! That just makes it more interesting!

And what do we have out of game? One dude voluntarily humiliating himself, absent any kind of threat or coercion from the others present.

Yes, but we're not talking about the consequences within Eve. We're talking about the consequences outside of Eve. Sure, different domains have different standards and rules. But the idea of shifting the blame to the victim is a very HTFU sort of thing, which we generally don't endorse as an ideal in Western society, IRL.

When this guy was kept on voice comms for 2 hours, when his wife became involved, when they mocked his RL speech impediment, this wasn't Eve inside the game client anymore. It became very personal and very RL very fast.

People are mixing a lot of domains here. All that matters is how CCP wants their game to be played and perceived by the non-Eve playing world. If they are cool with this, then it's settled. If they are not, then there is that too.

He didn't hold any assets, he gave them away.

Also you do not legally own any assets in Eve, they all belong to CCP.