EVE General Discussion

Please share those links. I haven't heard of them doing anything like that before.

To those arguing that the assets are owned by CCP, then it falls incumbent on CCP to press charges on Erotica1 for ransoming their ingame proprietary property against an individual who has paid CCPfor use of them, by means of extortion/blackmail occuring OUTSIDE of thee game.

Erotica1s ingame activities are not a cause of dispute. He has aquired those assets legitimately ingame.
What he then does to those people from whom he has aquied them OUTSIDE of the game, is illegal.

Lets say I manage to scam you out of your assets ingame. You transfer them to my character from yours.
Then subsequently I show up at your door or call you at work, and tell you that if you do this ans this, I will return your assets to you.

It breaks numerous stipulations of the EULA and various other less formal publicstions of policy issued by CCP to do so.
There is to be NO external, out of game, involvment with other players in regards to the services that CCP provides ingame.

Erotica1 is treating these people OUTSIDE THE GAME in this fashion, illegally, against the EULA designed to protect players as clients from exactly this kind of conduct.

finally this scamming *hits strikes back on ero (and maybe on CCP?)

Grown folks don't want to pay to be around people such as the kind that the press will have everybody thinking are players in this game.

And if you want to be all about "toughness", I don't see you petitioning CCP for perma-death. As long as it's all a game, nobody has a stance on anything relating to "HTFU".

It isn't. inciting others to drive someone to suicide probably is.

And then carry the charade on for personal pleasure and ego-stroking.

I don't see how you can realistically justify the extent of the situation they put this guy through. The rest of it was purely for enjoyment. Some people find that objectionable.

I know whatcha mean, man. I feel the same way about GLBT discrimination and homophobia. If you aren't doing anything about it, you endorse it.

Say, have you marched in a pride parade, donated money to GLBT support orgs, or other such things? I mean if not, you're basically endorsing GLBT discrimination.

Sneaky gets it.

It's not news, it's not even new, people have been abusing each other via the medium of online games and chat rooms for years. It's not unique to Eve.

You have not been advocating a middle ground.

In this situation, there is no middle ground. This is not just about scamming. Scam are a part of eve, that will not change.

This is about players standing against the vitriolic and toxic nature of certain groups in eve who strive to ensure hate and spite are promoted so they get their 'kicks.'

This is not a call for a themepark. This is a call to return civility to the game.

^^: I don't think he cares about a potential Timothy McVeigh in the making liking/disliking/reading his posts.



Who would that hurt and who would that benefit?

Would it benefit the victim of the scam? Hell no, the victim doesn't get their possessions back and the public humilation would make it worse / can't be removed.

Would it benefit Erotica 1? Possibly it gives him notoriety and it won't remove his morally ambiguous gains.

Would it benefit CCP? No its a PR nightmare waiting to happen. This kind of baying for blood isn't sated with a simple banning either.

Would it benefit the playerbase/game? No it will inevitably reduce the sandboxiness of the game as more rules are put in place to prevent such a disaster from happening again.


It hurts all of us and makes you literally eve cancer for suggesting it. Thanks for making the case against allowing npc alts to post stronger though.