EVE General Discussion

There are things that are beyond the rules. This is one of them.

Source and citation needed for all these claims.

Go ahead, I'm waiting. If you actually have legal training it will take you only a few minutes to source and reference the related sections in the correct format.

As to your repeated claims that "You are are not sane" and "You need help", are you claiming to be a professionally trained psychiatrist now as well as a lawyer?

Big. Fat. Liar.

A hands off approach didn't work too well for Cain. When someone asks you "are you your brother's keeper," there is only one correct answer, "yes."

You're exact words were, "Perfectly justified." Now who's the liar?

Don't talk to me like I was born yesterday, kiddo.

I wish to voice my support for Erotica1's right to do what he does, regardless of how people 'feel' about how he does it.

Consider. Free speech laws (in countries that have them) were created not to protect polite or correct speech, but to protect all speech, including impolite and even vile speech...

Erotica1's right to scam and mess with people should not be infringed, for doing so by introducing rules would be comparible to removal of freedom of speech laws.

In short, in the same way we may denounce what vile, stupid or intolerant things are said under free speech laws -- no one should ever remotely consider removing (or even limiting) said free speech rights.

That is the slippery slope many have been going down in this thread, with claims Erotica1 'crossed a line' and 'rules should be put in place'.

Tyranny's are created from such do-gooder notions.

Denounce what Erotica1 does, but do not denounce his right to do it, and continue to do it.

Jester is wrong on this one, a person is either free or not free; EvE is either sandbox or not, there is no good mix between food and poison, you just get poisoned food.

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Violence is not always physical, you should remember that when thinking about Erotica!

I'm personally not a fan of Erotica's bonus rooms myself. I solve that issue by not participating in them, or listening. Works like a charm!

People these days just seem to go out of their way to find something to be offended at. If you don't like it, don't pay attention to it. Let the parties involved (Ero, CCP, and victim) sort it out.

I will say though, singing in comms is an old, old EVE pasttime. I remember doing a rousing rendition of "It's Raining Men" to save my ship in lowsec. Great fun. I mean, it's all a video game, nobody is being forced to do sillyness.

To be honest, everyone is coming at this from the wrong angle.

The question we should be asking is does Erotica 1s actions let Hilmar buy more or less $1000 pairs of Japanese jeans?

Hilmar and CCP really couldn't care less unless its going to make them more money or less money.

The really interesting outcome is going to be when one of these people kill themselves. When the media pick up on the suicide, the audio recordings released, any photos released, there will be a huge media **** storm.

THEN the media find out that CCP have been warned over and over from members of the community about this (so they lose all deniability defence) and they chose to do nothing.

It doesn't matter about if they can get sued, the media **** storm will engulf all that.

And thus the voice of reason did speak.

Eventually CCP you will have to draw the line somewhere!

One day, (This is a day I DO NOT want to see.) when someone does something in reaction to something like this, are you going to do something then?

Are you going to wait until someone crosses a line and harms themselves or someone else?

What would happen then? When the world realizes exactly who roams EVE Online, when the world realizes that a community you created can do such a thing to each other?

Are you going to wait until that happens?

Are you going to sit idly by?

Or are you going to do something about it?


With all honesty, regardless what my role is within this game and community. I'd happily separate myself from it if a tragic event could've been avoided.