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Exploration problems.

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Narkrud Morganian
The Forgotten Veterans
#1 - 2014-03-21 08:41:59 UTC
Hi all,

Just recently i decided to ditch my usual game style and fitted a Myrmidon with exploration in mind. I have the skills required for general all round play on this character (Jack of all trades and master on none) but im finding the probing etc extremely laborious and long winded.

Due to game time limitations i was wondering if any of you peeps could give me some tips so that i can find sites etc quicker as by the time i get something to warp to i generally find that RL requirements put it to an end.

All tips appreciated.
Salvos Rhoska
#2 - 2014-03-21 08:46:59 UTC
Exploration is generally handled on the "Missions and Complexes" board.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=248

You might also want to reformulate your post to be a bit more specific of what it is exactly you are currently doing in your exploration, and what it is exactly that you are asking for help to improve on.
Narkrud Morganian
The Forgotten Veterans
#3 - 2014-03-21 08:53:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Narkrud Morganian
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Exploration is generally handled on the "Missions and Complexes" board.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=248

You might also want to reformulate your post to be a bit more specific of what it is exactly you are currently doing in your exploration, and what it is exactly that you are asking for help to improve on.



Yes sorry i was a bit vague there.

I am looking for sites to hack etc and even hideouts etc that don't appear on the basic scanner.

I seem to find the odd wormhole or two but my lack of exploration knowledge seems to show here as it seems to take an age to finally pinpoint anything in a reasonable amount of time to get the WARP button up.


On the whole i'm exploring to look for anything to do be it Hacking or Combat, i don't mind.

So the ability to pinpoint accurately and quickly on anything out of the ordinary would be welcome.
Salvos Rhoska
#4 - 2014-03-21 09:00:38 UTC
There are various wikis you should read which I am sure you can find with simple search terms.

You should familiarise yourself with the basics before you ask others to retype what is already available out there in concise literal format.

And take this to "Missions and Complexes" once you have done that and specified what you need to know down a bit from basic understanding to questions that people can answer without typing out 2 pages of 101 Introduction.
Narkrud Morganian
The Forgotten Veterans
#5 - 2014-03-21 09:35:39 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
There are various wikis you should read which I am sure you can find with simple search terms.

You should familiarise yourself with the basics before you ask others to retype what is already available out there in concise literal format.

And take this to "Missions and Complexes" once you have done that and specified what you need to know down a bit from basic understanding to questions that people can answer without typing out 2 pages of 101 Introduction.


Ok i get the neutral reply and will find the information regarding this matter.
Narkrud Morganian
The Forgotten Veterans
#6 - 2014-03-21 09:41:25 UTC
Narkrud Morganian wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
There are various wikis you should read which I am sure you can find with simple search terms.

You should familiarise yourself with the basics before you ask others to retype what is already available out there in concise literal format.

And take this to "Missions and Complexes" once you have done that and specified what you need to know down a bit from basic understanding to questions that people can answer without typing out 2 pages of 101 Introduction.


Ok i get the neutral reply and will find the information regarding this matter.


Oh and get over yourself, that bordered on pomposity.
Salvos Rhoska
#7 - 2014-03-21 09:49:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
You went from clueless, to annoying, to rude in the space of three 3 posts.

Typical. Shows who and what you really are.
With your attitude you can forget getting any help from the community, especially to substitute for your own laziness.

I was polite, matter of fact and informed you this is the wrong board and your questions are too general to answer without a 2page post, and all of which is available already in well worded basic wikis. If you can't handle that without getting rude, thats your problem, not mine.
Narkrud Morganian
The Forgotten Veterans
#8 - 2014-03-21 09:57:01 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
You went from clueless, to annoying, to rude in the space of three 3 posts.

Typical. Shows who and what you really are.
With your attitude you can forget getting any help from the community, especially to substitute for your own laziness.

I was polite, matter of fact and informed you this is the wrong board and your questions are too general to answer without a 2page post, and all of which is available already in well worded basic wikis. If you can't handle that without getting rude, thats your problem, not mine.



I'm sorry but the fact that you sounded condescending to the point of being "Superior" you got what you deserved.

Farewell .
Salvos Rhoska
#9 - 2014-03-21 10:01:38 UTC
I was neither condescending nor superior.

I was matter of fact and polite.

You are the one who has been rude here.

I should have just left you hanging in your ignorance for everyone to facepalm at, on the wrong board, with questions that are so basic and general that they show you haven't made even a cursory attempt to find the information yourself, to the result that you insult me.

Bye.
SpaceSaft
Almost Dangerous
Wolves Amongst Strangers
#10 - 2014-03-21 10:01:39 UTC
Take a scanning frigate or the sisters of eve cruiser, they have bonuses to scanner strength and to the values in the minigame. Using a different ship is possible but more tedious and boring. Sites give better loot the less secure they are, data and relic don't have rats except in wormholes, combat sites are combat sites, there are gas sites that are only of use if you have a gas harvester and can use it and then there are wormholes. Finding sites quicker? Well no idea on that one, you have to go through each site individually to see what kind it is. There is afaik no way to find signatures in other systems.
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
#11 - 2014-03-21 10:11:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Seven Koskanaiken
Use a bonuses ship for scanning and reship to combat ship, or use an all in one ship that has bonuses to scanning, ie t3 with locus subsystem, or sisters faction ships.

Get your skills up. Fit gravity capacitor upgrades. Use sisters mods and probes. Use the poteque series of hard wiring implants. Use the scan array modules that came out in odyssey. Reduce probe size by two or three steps down at a time if you can do it without losing the signature.

Use dotlan to finds systems with low jumps per hour, low npc kills per hour, signatures build up in them. Avoid busy systems. If there are two or more signatures in one system with two identical last letters, it means they were still unused at downtime, consider skipping these as they are probable wormholes or drone site crap.

Get your corp to make a probing spreadsheet or tracker and put signatures on there so corpmatea don't scan crap if you already did it once. If a corpmate only does hacking ask them to drop combat sigs in corp chat, vice versa for corpmates that only do combats. Reset the sheet every downtime.
Narkrud Morganian
The Forgotten Veterans
#12 - 2014-03-21 10:22:31 UTC
Thanks for the recent helpful replies, i will certainly look into the Sisters Of Eve scanning bonuses.
Xearal
Dead's Prostitutes
The Initiative.
#13 - 2014-03-21 11:39:48 UTC
If you want to do hacking/archaeology, get a probing frig, either the T1 or a cov ops.
The sites don't contain rats except in WH space. So you don't need a lot of guns etc. to run them.
( only to duke it out with other explorers if you find any )

Also, these ships get bonuses to hacking/archaeology that are very usefull in the sites themselves, making them much easier to do than with a regular ship.

Does railgun ammunition come in Hollow Point?

Koz Katral
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#14 - 2014-03-21 12:59:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Koz Katral
the probing mechanics are tons better than they used to be - but if you haven't got much invested in scanning skills, and you arn't using a ship designed for scanning you could find it takes you forever.

As others have suggested - jump in a covops, train the astrometric support skills to atleast 3 (doesnt take too long), scan some stuff down. Start with data and relic sites, and try and find some high sec 4/10's to run (although the competition for these is usually pretty steep as far as I remember).

If you stick with it eventually you will find yourself doing null sec/low sec DED sites and escalations which I personally think are the most challenging and rewarding solo PVE opportunities in the game (or not solo, if you are that guy multiboxing 3 characters...)

With the addition of the mobile depot, solo exploration became really fun again - exploration fit nullified t3's roaming away from home in hostile space, refitting to run combat sites is really fun in my opinion.
Serene Repose
#15 - 2014-03-21 16:29:51 UTC
We can't have borderline pomposity around here. Either, be pompous or get off the pot!

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#16 - 2014-03-21 16:43:24 UTC
CRIPPLE FIIIIGHT!

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture
#17 - 2014-03-21 16:51:26 UTC
Narkrud Morganian wrote:
Hi all,

Just recently i decided to ditch my usual game style and fitted a Myrmidon with exploration in mind. I have the skills required for general all round play on this character (Jack of all trades and master on none) but im finding the probing etc extremely laborious and long winded.



........./kTHWAK

you youngins today!

With yer scannin' modules.

And probe formations.

back in my day, we had to move every single damn probe by hand!

And launch every probe one at a time!

and manually arrange them with no presets!

After every single time we hit the scan button.

and were unable to move them as a group with the fancy-schmancy Alt/Shift control schemes.

Down the 20-system Chain!

In the Snow!

Both ways!

With the wrath of Bob breathing down your neck!

heh.

no, but seriously, if you think scanning is *too hard* now, then.......pfft.

on topic

get away from the major hubs, and find some quiet area. the hi sec islands, low sec away from hi sec borders, and null away from staging/alliance living areas are excellent places for exploration content.

Quote:
(or not solo, if you are that guy multiboxing 3 characters...)


Multiboxing 3 characters by myself is still solo.

Me, myself, and I are still just one person. therefore, solo.
Hoshi Sorano
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2014-03-21 17:13:00 UTC
Himnos Altar wrote:
Multiboxing 3 characters by myself is still solo.

Me, myself, and I are still just one person. therefore, solo.


You can keep telling yourself that, but it won't make it true.

Solo = 1 ship, period.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#19 - 2014-03-21 17:15:26 UTC
Hoshi Sorano wrote:
Himnos Altar wrote:
Multiboxing 3 characters by myself is still solo.

Me, myself, and I are still just one person. therefore, solo.


You can keep telling yourself that, but it won't make it true.

Solo = 1 ship, period.

thank you for your opinion, npc alt who is apparently the authority on the subject.

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Alexylva Paradox
#20 - 2014-03-21 17:18:40 UTC
get a small mobile ship for data and relic sites or if you're interested in combat sites id go with ishtar in your case. also if you have issues with probing it might be because you're flying ship with out bonuses for it and maybe using t1 cores with low skills. id suggest bumping up your scanning skills quit complaining about scanning and get your self sisters cores.

only after you take a battleship with prototype cloak and t1 core probes trough C5 highway in wormhole space back to known space and survived with out taking the pod express. only then you might've earned right to complain about scanning being hard these days.
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