EVE General Discussion

Conversely, one could easily say that they hate miners because they are too chickenshit to fly a ship that can fight at all.

I don't hate gankers. And I mine. In general I think the concept of ganking is fairly consistent with the theme of the space sim game that includes a massive universe where certain amounts of lawlessness would undoubtedly be expected.

In fact, I think gankers add to the game in that they force you to think about your actions and investments instead of absolutely and blindingly pointing and clicking. (Possible digression here that "AFK mining" in absolute terms is a complete myth. Sure, I can step away for a minute or two on occasion, but some would have you believe that I can wake up, point and click, and come back 12 hours later. Not even close to the truth... especially as you skill up and have the capacity to efficiently strip a belt.)


HOWEVER... what I do think is cheesy tho is the ganking dude who fires up 8 alts, each named differently by a single alpha or numeric character (think namea, nameb, namec), each more or less using the exact same half-assed portrait, each belonging to a noob corp (I believe most pirates or gankers should have to belong to some sort of organization that could be war dec'd... it seems a theme in EVE is that your actions have consequences, but in this example I fail to see any consequences at all other than being a delta bravo), each toon only old enough the minimum amount of time it takes to train into a catalyst.

To me, that's not even ganking... that's just stupid and *yawn* boring. I'd vote for instant and perma ban for this utter lack of creativity. I mean, for crap sake it's a game and you could at least make a half assed effort to name yourself, portrait up, and somewhat attempt to contribute to the overall theme of the game's genre.

I do not typically get involved in rants about realism this and realism that... like I said before it's a gaaame. But what I described above doesn't really seem to fit with the theme of the game... unless of course manipulating multiple accounts for the sake of absolute streamlining of ISK manipulated or tears harvested is what the intent of this game is. But I don't believe that's what it is. And in fact, if allowed to become more rampant than it is I think it really could take away from the overall experience.

Fortunately I perceive the scenario above is an exception, not a rule. I hope I'm right about that. I like supporting CCP with multiple accounts. And I like playing multiple toons. But largely I do it (and believe most do it) to support my enjoyment of the game... not to demonstrate some sort of asshattery power and control over the game mechanics and other peeps.

So I'll close my rant with a bit of idealism. Would be nice to see gankers speak out on such practice... even if it's not really the nature of a ganker to do so....

Not necessarily. A large part of the game is the player driven market which at it's root is driven by the harvesting of resources. Not sure the same basis of logic holds true the other way around.

That said, I think it makes total sense for a ganker to fit a ship as effectively for the purpose as possible. This crap argument about "you should fit a gank ship to fight" or "you should fit a ship that can fight to mine" are equally absurd really.

As long as the methodology somewhat fits within the scope of the theme of the game I have no issues. It's the minority of freaks who use 8-10 alts or more to manipulate game mechanics for reasons outside the scope of the game theme that annoy the hell out of me. And I suspect there are equal amounts of those ego-freaks on both sides that contribute to the root of the issue.

They do, the one guy ISboxing 8 suicide alts in NPC corps is not the norm.

The player driven market is also driven by the need for products. Which is exclusively the province of those of us who destroy ships.

And it's not about having to fight a mining barge to "fight". But at least fit a tank, don't just fit for max yield and afk in a belt for 40 minutes.

A damage control unit and an afterburner, along with orbiting your roid, will deter tons of ganking. But no, gotta fit that survey scanner, gotta fit that 3rd MLU.

We do?

How a person chooses to play Eve, so long as they do not break any of CCP's rules is fine.

Everyone pays their own subscription. They can play the game how they like for all I care, as long as it's not going against the few rules set in place.

IMO if you've a problem with any play style, there's other options on the market for you if it's causing so much grief..

Please stop spouting that bullshit.

Firstly, most (the vast majority) gankers don't do that.

Secondly, the reason they don't, is because it's a bannable offense.

In my own case, I can tell you that I've never gotten a tongue scraping from a GM for such a thing.

But it's been established policy in EVE for at least 5 years now that I know of. I don't really have a source for you, I'm afraid. It's been common knowledge for so long that I've long since forgotten where I first heard it.

The purpose of the game?? Wouldn't that be to pay your mothly fee and play in the sand box the way you want to play and ignore the others that tell you how you should be playing?

Seems to be no shotage of loud-mouthed people trying to to tell others the PURPOSE of YOUR game.