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EVE Custom Ship Labeler (desktop application)

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Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
#81 - 2013-08-25 14:38:00 UTC
Btw just so you guys know, I started playing the game again when I updated the app a few weeks ago (I couldn't resist after logging on to test it Lol) so you can also contact me in-game if you have any questions or whatever!

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Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
#82 - 2013-09-16 13:02:12 UTC
Would be cool if you people would share your best creations here Big smile

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Haifisch Zahne
Hraka Manufacture GmbH
#83 - 2013-09-16 17:36:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Haifisch Zahne
On first reading your description of the application, I thought it somehow was able to apply ship decals that CCP has been saying will come Soon (tm), if only for our own benefit and not universally viewable. Ah, well.

I remember finding and using the original article to manually edit the XML file to make changes to the on-screen identification label of ships in space. And, subsequently lost my edits and the bookmark. So, it was nice to find this.

While your application is certainly much easier to use than manually editing the XML, it should go without saying that the ability to Open previously saved files is an absolute MUST have. It is not a feature, it is a MUST. I don't care how easy you think it is to recreate the work, it is easier to Open a previously saved file that was tinkered with to adjust everything just right. Perhaps, you have the Microsoft thought to charge for this optional feature?

Also, I had to put in a leading space in bold in order to adjust the size of the text of the label in the first line. I may have read this among the comments, not sure.

Thanks for the application, but it does require one more capability.
Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
#84 - 2013-09-16 19:18:39 UTC
Haifisch Zahne wrote:
On first reading your description of the application, I thought it somehow was able to apply ship decals that CCP has been saying will come Soon (tm), if only for our own benefit and not universally viewable. Ah, well.

I remember finding and using the original article to manually edit the XML file to make changes to the on-screen identification label of ships in space. And, subsequently lost my edits and the bookmark. So, it was nice to find this.

While your application is certainly much easier to use than manually editing the XML, it should go without saying that the ability to Open previously saved files is an absolute MUST have. It is not a feature, it is a MUST. I don't care how easy you think it is to recreate the work, it is easier to Open a previously saved file that was tinkered with to adjust everything just right. Perhaps, you have the Microsoft thought to charge for this optional feature?

Thanks for the application, but it does require one more capability.

First of all thanks for the input. I do like the idea that this was an application that enabled placing decals on your ship, but sadly enough that would mean I had to manipulate the client which isn't allowed according to the EULA hehe...

About the ability to load previously saved files. It would be possible to add this ability for exports made with the application, but doing this for xml-files that are edited without the application is harder because of the way the xml-files are set up. Because of that reason loading xml-files could be experienced as annoying because it doesn't work the way people want it to work.

Now I can hear you asking "So why don't you just change your way of setting up the xml?". Because that would bring other complications to the application, making it a lot harder for people to make a shiplabel, which is contrary to the first and foremost use of this application: ease-of-use.

Haifisch Zahne wrote:
Also, I had to put in a leading space in bold in order to adjust the size of the text of the label in the first line. I may have read this among the comments, not sure.

Can you be more specific about this? I tried adding both custom text and a shipname component bold and/or with a bigger fontsize at the first row and the first line and this is working as intended. I didn't need to put a leading space in bold in order to achieve this.

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Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
#85 - 2013-10-10 20:45:09 UTC
No one willing to share his/her design? Sad

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Aesheera
Doomheim
#86 - 2013-10-14 22:28:18 UTC
Best.

App.

Ever.

♥ x 1000

- I think my passion is misinterpreted as anger sometimes. And I don't think people are ready for the message that I'm delivering, and delivering with a sense of violent love.
Aesheera
Doomheim
#87 - 2013-10-14 23:19:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Aesheera
Grauth Thorner wrote:
No one willing to share his/her design? Sad


I will:

Nice, clean, and brightly colored enough:

My 'design'

EDIT: Because of my liking of this, I added a hyperlink in my signature for j00! ♥

- I think my passion is misinterpreted as anger sometimes. And I don't think people are ready for the message that I'm delivering, and delivering with a sense of violent love.
Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
#88 - 2013-10-18 14:24:05 UTC
Aesheera wrote:
Grauth Thorner wrote:
No one willing to share his/her design? Sad


I will:

Nice, clean, and brightly colored enough:

My 'design'

EDIT: Because of my liking of this, I added a hyperlink in my signature for j00! ♥

Cheers for that! Big smile

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Goon Cyno Bait
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#89 - 2013-12-08 19:56:20 UTC
I like it.
Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
#90 - 2014-01-11 15:36:33 UTC
Thanks everyone for the donations so far, I appreciate it! Big smile

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Marcel Daltharion
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#91 - 2014-02-21 23:22:35 UTC
Thanks!!!Pirate
Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
#92 - 2014-03-01 18:52:21 UTC
Good to see this is still going. Today I changed the download links to a link to my website - all files regarding the application can be downloaded here.

Cheers,
Grauth Thorner

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hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved
#93 - 2014-03-06 16:20:20 UTC
Any way to increase the distance font size? Somehow mine stays at default size

Also, any way to apply this to non-player ships? It's very annoying when everything is how you want it, but yet gates and stations are not effected.

Lastly, my biggest problem is when i use line breaks for a single entry, and there are multiple targets at a distance, i can hover the mouse in space in that direction, but the labels overlap :(

Great job otherwise!
Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
#94 - 2014-03-06 17:20:00 UTC
hydraSlav wrote:
Any way to increase the distance font size? Somehow mine stays at default size

Also, any way to apply this to non-player ships? It's very annoying when everything is how you want it, but yet gates and stations are not effected.

Lastly, my biggest problem is when i use line breaks for a single entry, and there are multiple targets at a distance, i can hover the mouse in space in that direction, but the labels overlap :(

Great job otherwise!

Hey hydraSlav,

First of all, thanks for your reply. In regard to your questions:
- I'm not sure what you're trying to say with 'distance' font size. You can change the font-size of shiplabels for players who are in a corporation. I've just tested if this still works and for me it does. To do this, you can simply use the drop-down menu to select the preferred fontsize when you're adding a new component to the grid, or with the options of a component on the grid. Note that the example in the application should also show you the different fontsize.

- Sadly enough this is not possible in any way. It's also impossible for me to make this possible without breaking the EULA, because it's not allowed to change the game engine in any way. The same thing goes for your last question, really. The overlapping of shiplabels can be annoying, I'd have to agree with that, but that's the way the EVE shiplabels work. The only cure for this is to keep all of your shiplabels single-lined.

I hope this answered your questions. If not, you know where to find me!

Regards,
Grauth Thorner

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Demethrius Petronius
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#95 - 2014-03-06 17:46:54 UTC
Nice program, makes label creation easier.
I have a question, can you add background color/shade behind these labels? I've seen this during ATXI (http://youtu.be/oSEbDHeB6zE?t=3m56s).
Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
#96 - 2014-03-06 22:27:24 UTC
Demethrius Petronius wrote:
Nice program, makes label creation easier.
I have a question, can you add background color/shade behind these labels? I've seen this during ATXI (http://youtu.be/oSEbDHeB6zE?t=3m56s).

I doubt that this would be possible. It looks cool though, but I'm guessing this is simply something CCP implemented only for streams. I will dig into it, though. Since it would also fix hydraSlav's question about overlapping labels.

I'll probably get back to you with an answer at the end of the weekend.

Cheers,
Grauth Thorner

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Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
#97 - 2014-03-14 20:42:45 UTC
Alright sorry for the late reaction. I've been doing some desk research, which obviously didn't lead to much useful information. So I decided to contact a GM about this instead. Basically what he told me was that it's not possible and if I want to make it possible in the future, I should open a thread in the Features & Ideas Discussion forum. So that is exactly what I did Lol The thread can be found here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4346107#post4346107. If you support the idea, leave a message there so CCP will see that there's some interest in it.

Cheers,
Grauth Thorner

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Alexis Nightwish
#98 - 2014-03-18 20:04:50 UTC
Grauth, I <3 the app, but do have a request if it's not too much trouble.

Can you give us the option to include NPC corps in the formatting please, or at least tell us how they are different so I can code it myself?

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Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
#99 - 2014-03-18 23:49:05 UTC
Alexis Nightwish wrote:
Grauth, I <3 the app, but do have a request if it's not too much trouble.

Can you give us the option to include NPC corps in the formatting please, or at least tell us how they are different so I can code it myself?


Thanks for your reply Alexis. I am thinking about adding this option in the future, as well as saving/loading creations and I might even introduce some different kind of dynamic shiplabels (just like they are dynamic now, since shiplabels of non-NPC-corp players are different from shiplabels of NPC-corp players). But these are things for the far future, since I'm currently way too busy with my graduation internship and personal side projects.

The best solution for now would be that you edit the generated XML-file yourself. My application creates these, as I call them, "None" type elements within the XML-file. The value of the "pre" element contains parts of your creation. If you copy this value and paste it into the next "pre" element which is not part of a "None" type element and delete the "None" type elements that have empty values in their "pre" element, then this will also be shown for players who are in a NPC-corp. To make myself more clear, I've made an example of what I'm saying which can be found here: www.iciclesoft.com/downloads/EditShiplabelXML.png

If you have several "None" type elements in a row, do this for all these "None" type elements and make sure you keep the order the same, so the "pre" value of "None" type element 1 is followed by the "pre" value of "None" type element 2 in the "pre" value of the next non-"None" type element.

It's possible that you also have a "None" type element at the end of the file. If this is the case then you have to copy it's "pre" value to the "post" value of the previous element that is not a "None" type element.

Note: You can edit the XML-file with notepad, however I do advise you to use Notepad++ instead (Google it, it's free!)
If you are using Notepad++ then you might want to press ctrl-h and replace all > for >\n (make sure you have Extended '(\n, \t, \0, \x...)' checked). This makes it a lot easier for you to read the file.

Sorry for the big wall of text, but the picture gives some clearance Roll
If you have any other questions or need more help, then you know where to find me.
Grauth Thorner

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Alexis Nightwish
#100 - 2014-03-21 03:19:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Alexis Nightwish
Thanks for the quick tutorial. The pic helped a lot. This is what I came up with.

CTRL+H to replace LESSTHAN with < and GREATERTHAN with > since the forums hate on HTML code:





LESSTHANshipLabelsGREATERTHAN
LESSTHANlabelGREATERTHAN
LESSTHANpart name="pre" value="&lt;color=0xffffff00&gt;&lt;fontsize=11&gt;"/GREATERTHAN
LESSTHANpart name="state" value="1"/GREATERTHAN
LESSTHANpart name="type" value="pilot name"/GREATERTHAN
LESSTHANpart name="post" value="&lt;/fontsize&gt;&lt;/color&gt;"/GREATERTHAN
LESSTHAN/labelGREATERTHAN
LESSTHANlabelGREATERTHAN
LESSTHANpart name="pre" value="&lt;color=0xffffffff&gt;&lt;fontsize=10&gt;[&lt;/fontsize&gt;&lt;/color&gt;&lt;color=0xffffffff&gt;&lt;fontsize=9&gt;&lt;b&gt;"/GREATERTHAN
LESSTHANpart name="state" value="1"/GREATERTHAN
LESSTHANpart name="type" value="corporation"/GREATERTHAN
LESSTHANpart name="post" value="&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/fontsize&gt;&lt;/color&gt;&lt;color=0xffffffff&gt;&lt;fontsize=10&gt;]&lt;/fontsize&gt;&lt;/color&gt;"/GREATERTHAN
LESSTHAN/labelGREATERTHAN
LESSTHANlabelGREATERTHAN
LESSTHANpart name="pre" value="&lt;color=0xffffffff&gt;&lt;fontsize=10&gt;[&lt;/fontsize&gt;&lt;/color&gt;&lt;color=0xffffffff&gt;&lt;fontsize=9&gt;&lt;b&gt;"/GREATERTHAN
LESSTHANpart name="state" value="1"/GREATERTHAN
LESSTHANpart name="type" value="alliance"/GREATERTHAN
LESSTHANpart name="post" value="&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/fontsize&gt;&lt;/color&gt;&lt;color=0xffffffff&gt;&lt;fontsize=10&gt;]&lt;/fontsize&gt;&lt;/color&gt;"/GREATERTHAN
LESSTHAN/labelGREATERTHAN
LESSTHANlabelGREATERTHAN
LESSTHANpart name="pre" value="&lt;color=0xffffffff&gt;&lt;fontsize=9&gt;(&lt;/fontsize&gt;&lt;/color&gt;&lt;color=0xffffffff&gt;&lt;fontsize=8&gt;&lt;i&gt;"/GREATERTHAN
LESSTHANpart name="state" value="1"/GREATERTHAN
LESSTHANpart name="type" value="ship name"/GREATERTHAN
LESSTHANpart name="post" value="&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/fontsize&gt;&lt;/color&gt;&lt;color=0xffffffff&gt;&lt;fontsize=9&gt;)&lt;/fontsize&gt;&lt;/color&gt; "/GREATERTHAN
LESSTHAN/labelGREATERTHAN
LESSTHANlabelGREATERTHAN
LESSTHANpart name="pre" value="&lt;color=0xffffff00&gt;&lt;fontsize=11&gt;"/GREATERTHAN
LESSTHANpart name="state" value="1"/GREATERTHAN
LESSTHANpart name="type" value="ship type"/GREATERTHAN
LESSTHANpart name="post" value="&lt;/color&gt;&lt;/fontsize&gt;&lt;color=0xffffffff&gt;&lt;fontsize=10&gt;"/GREATERTHAN
LESSTHAN/labelGREATERTHAN
LESSTHAN/shipLabelsGREATERTHAN

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