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EVE Custom Ship Labeler (desktop application)

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Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
#41 - 2013-01-13 10:45:01 UTC
Noriko Mai wrote:
Realy good app. Sad you don't tell how aa girl like me can do it to herself Cry


What exactly is it what you want to do yourself? Bear

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Az Tek
Applied Anarchy
#42 - 2013-01-13 15:56:39 UTC
This looks interesting, lol. =D

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Alnaria Fizolna
Eloria Corporation
#43 - 2013-01-19 21:53:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Alnaria Fizolna
Any way to make the labels apply to people who're not in a player corp?

Edit: managed some xml-fu to do that, only problem is that if the alliance ticker is on it creates a linebreak for no apparent reason... Am I missing something?
Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
#44 - 2013-01-20 10:04:55 UTC
Alnaria Fizolna wrote:
Any way to make the labels apply to people who're not in a player corp?

Edit: managed some xml-fu to do that, only problem is that if the alliance ticker is on it creates a linebreak for no apparent reason... Am I missing something?


If you haven't added this alliance ticker component on the next line in the application then it shouldn't . If you send the xml to me (place it on public dropbox or some other file-sharing website) and send me the link, I can have a look what's happening exactly.

Regards,
Grauth Thorner

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Desmont McCallock
#45 - 2013-01-20 13:16:51 UTC
Having an app open sourced has 2 benefits.
First, people who know how can run through the code and verify it's safe.
Second, creator can abandon the project and assure that someone else can pick it up.

So consider about it.

Btw, nice work.
Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
#46 - 2013-01-20 13:41:32 UTC
Desmont McCallock wrote:
Having an app open sourced has 2 benefits.
First, people who know how can run through the code and verify it's safe.
Second, creator can abandon the project and assure that someone else can pick it up.

So consider about it.

Btw, nice work.


I always had that in the back of my mind, which also made me go for some decissions I wouldn't have made otherwise (like using English only when naming classes/methods etc. instead of my native language). So yeah it's more or less open-source ready in case I want to release it open sourced. However for as long as I don't come to a point where I think about stopping playing EVE, and thus abandoning the project, I probably won't release it open source yet since I'm sure I can handle any questions/requests upto the point described.

Perhaps I'm just way too cautious about this point, but another reason why I haven't released it open sourced yet is because I'm quite affraid that others release the same project under their name, taking credit for something they didn't do, or even worse... Releasing it with a virus/keylogger attached to it giving me and/or my application a bad name...

Regards,
Grauth Thorner

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Az Tek
Applied Anarchy
#47 - 2013-01-22 19:46:42 UTC
Glad to see this still going. I would have messsaged you sooner man but last week I dropped my brandnew laptop off the back of the train I was hopping west to TN. Was going to fast to retreive it. I think it went under the wheels anyway. lol. Will hit you up next time I'm at a library etc,. Keep up the good work and fly safe =)

Tek

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Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
#48 - 2013-01-22 20:29:34 UTC
Az Tek wrote:
Glad to see this still going. I would have messsaged you sooner man but last week I dropped my brandnew laptop off the back of the train I was hopping west to TN. Was going to fast to retreive it. I think it went under the wheels anyway. lol. Will hit you up next time I'm at a library etc,. Keep up the good work and fly safe =)

Tek


Alright man, condolences to your laptop, real bummer especially since it was brand new >.< Good luck getting a new one, I don't think insurance will do anything about it do they?

Cheers,
Grauth

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Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
#49 - 2013-01-25 20:51:13 UTC
Grauth Thorner wrote:
Noriko Mai wrote:
Realy good app. Sad you don't tell how aa girl like me can do it to herself Cry


What exactly is it what you want to do yourself? Bear


Apparently not much :p

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Malcolm Reanolds
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#50 - 2013-01-28 00:52:34 UTC
Would it be hard to add Velocity/Radial Velocity ect. into the system. Or do those have to be put in manually?
Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
#51 - 2013-01-28 09:53:28 UTC
Malcolm Reanolds wrote:
Would it be hard to add Velocity/Radial Velocity ect. into the system. Or do those have to be put in manually?

I agree that it would be very nice if these could be added to the shiplabels, however this is not possible :( These can only be seen in the overview

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Az Rhea
Rise Of The Golden Ponies
#52 - 2013-01-31 05:10:40 UTC
Grauth Thorner wrote:
Malcolm Reanolds wrote:
Would it be hard to add Velocity/Radial Velocity ect. into the system. Or do those have to be put in manually?

I agree that it would be very nice if these could be added to the shiplabels, however this is not possible :( These can only be seen in the overview


Well there is a way but it requires python and it has to run in the background and I think it could get you banned. Python injections/interceptions can direct the flow of data anywhere on the screen you want it in just about any format. More headache than it's worth for simple output cosmetics though. Causes serious game delays also as it has to intercept the desired 'item' and rearrange the way you specify.

Lux Nitor
#53 - 2013-01-31 05:43:48 UTC
Thanks for making this app. Especially for including a cross platform jar. (Ugh cant believe i just thanked someone for using java...)

Having trouble saving the file on OSX. The dialog says it is trying to save to "/Users/{Username}\EVE\Overview\myGlobalSettings" which would of course be invalid, and is generally a bad location to try to save stuff. Even if you do create what I assume the dialogue is intending at "/Users/{Username}/EVE/Overview/myGlobalSettings" nothing shows up when saving.

Is a save directory dialogue out of the question? Oe maybe just exposing the raw XML to copy in to our own files?

Also, I assume its a bug that you can not drag to re-arrange the items once placed in the grid?

Thanks again. Nice idea.
Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
#54 - 2013-01-31 09:41:42 UTC
Az Rhea wrote:
Grauth Thorner wrote:
Malcolm Reanolds wrote:
Would it be hard to add Velocity/Radial Velocity ect. into the system. Or do those have to be put in manually?

I agree that it would be very nice if these could be added to the shiplabels, however this is not possible :( These can only be seen in the overview


Well there is a way but it requires python and it has to run in the background and I think it could get you banned. Python injections/interceptions can direct the flow of data anywhere on the screen you want it in just about any format. More headache than it's worth for simple output cosmetics though. Causes serious game delays also as it has to intercept the desired 'item' and rearrange the way you specify.



Yeah especially the first con you described is the reason why I won't implement that: "it could get you banned". It would be a way to change the client which against the rules of the EULA.

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Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
#55 - 2013-01-31 10:07:29 UTC
Lux Nitor wrote:
Thanks for making this app. Especially for including a cross platform jar. (Ugh cant believe i just thanked someone for using java...)

Having trouble saving the file on OSX. The dialog says it is trying to save to "/Users/{Username}\EVE\Overview\myGlobalSettings" which would of course be invalid, and is generally a bad location to try to save stuff. Even if you do create what I assume the dialogue is intending at "/Users/{Username}/EVE/Overview/myGlobalSettings" nothing shows up when saving.

Is a save directory dialogue out of the question? Oe maybe just exposing the raw XML to copy in to our own files?

Also, I assume its a bug that you can not drag to re-arrange the items once placed in the grid?

Thanks again. Nice idea.


Tbh I haven't tested it on OSX. I might do so on a virtual machine now I read about this bug...

A save directory dialogue is not out of the question, no. However I wanted to make it as easy as possible to use for anybody, and since the xml can only be imported in-game from the /EVE/Overview directory I figured 'well, why not make it static'. Assuming that the method I used (a method by Java which searches for the default directory of your OS) was also cross-platform but apparently this is not :( I'll have a look at this tomorrow, see if I can keep the same functionalities but then cross-platform (unless you got other reasons why you want a dir dialogue). Otherwise I suppose I'll have to add at least a possiblity to open a dir dialogue.

About re-dragging the items on the grid.. No this is not a bug. The intention was that you can place another item on top of the other in order to move all components from that point on to the right. This is a nice feature until you want an item to be switched with another item or move it to the next line or something, while the item that has to be moved wasn't the last item you added.

((Hmm thinking about this feature also makes more features come up in my mind))

I might have a look at that tomorrow as well, however fixing the first bug you described is my priority at this point. Thanks for the input!

Grauth Thorner

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Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
#56 - 2013-02-03 00:38:15 UTC
EVE Custom Ship Labeler can now also be found on 3rdpartyeve.net!

The url for this is as follows:
http://3rdpartyeve.net/project/5101771eff9b701d54000000/EVE+Custom+Ship+Labeler

Regards,
Grauth Thorner

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Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
#57 - 2013-02-07 14:00:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Grauth Thorner
I haven't been able to release a new version yet due to real-life stuff. Upcoming wednesday and the rest of that week I'll have plenty of time though so I'll definetly get a look at it by then, maybe even starting tomorrow. The plan:

- Give users a choice to save it in the default directory or a custom directory with a saving directory dialogue. If it's saved in a custom dir, the user will have the choice to make this his new default dir.

- Give users the ability to re-arrange items placed on the grid.

Regards,
Grauth Thorner

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Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
#58 - 2013-02-13 18:38:03 UTC
Alright there has been a new release. Changes in this new release:

- It's now possible to re-arrange components that are placed on the grid.
- It's now possible to save the xml in another directory.
- The directory will become the new default directory, so you won't have to change the directory every time you run the app.
- If you changed the directory it's possible to go back to the old default directory (i.e. factory settings).
- The method I used to obtain the directory used for saving files has been changed into a method that should be cross-platform.

Regards,
Grauth Thorner

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Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
#59 - 2013-02-13 18:41:10 UTC
Lux Nitor wrote:
Thanks for making this app. Especially for including a cross platform jar. (Ugh cant believe i just thanked someone for using java...)

Having trouble saving the file on OSX. The dialog says it is trying to save to "/Users/{Username}\EVE\Overview\myGlobalSettings" which would of course be invalid, and is generally a bad location to try to save stuff. Even if you do create what I assume the dialogue is intending at "/Users/{Username}/EVE/Overview/myGlobalSettings" nothing shows up when saving.

Is a save directory dialogue out of the question? Oe maybe just exposing the raw XML to copy in to our own files?

Also, I assume its a bug that you can not drag to re-arrange the items once placed in the grid?

Thanks again. Nice idea.


See the post above =)

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Az Tek
Applied Anarchy
#60 - 2013-02-13 19:27:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Az Tek
Awesome. Glad to see you are keeping up with the updates. Some people will make an app and be 1 hitter quitters. Thanks for the updates and support for the app

P.S I have some ideas that I would really like to include you in on. My ideas combined with your app making abilities. I can write in 5 or 6 different languages but would like some diversity in my apps/sites. To make cross platform / cross language modules.

I also need a site admin for that site I was telling you I work on. 9months in the making. It started as a simple project but has grown into something that i anticipate will have a decently large user base and views per day.

It's going to need some daily upkeep. It's something right down your allie. I like your dedication with this app even if it's small. Hit me up if your interested. What I can tell you is that, it will be the largest EVE online 3rd party site in existent next to Battleclinic and The mittani. I'm excited about it. Anyway hit me up bro. =)

Az Tek
Az Rhea
Az Er'Khan
Az Guardian

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