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Alyssa Haginen
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-03-17 18:31:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Alyssa Haginen
Large industrial logistics ships are spaced far apart and so are the prices. I liked the specialized industry hulls and would like to expand that idea into larger hulls. In total there are five ships.

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----Currently the orca gets a ton of use as a transport ship rather then a mining ship


+++Multi-purpose jump freighter+++

Possible role bonus: Can jump to covert cynos (maybe op)
No slots
Max Cargo: 175,000 m3
Max Mass: 290,000,000 kg

Filling the slot of the orca while including a jump drive distance equal to a normal JF. This ship can cost 1/3 of a JF and create a good spike in the eve economy.

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---There is really no transport for ship hulls other then a normal carrier. While it works, carriers have more of a combat/repair role.

+++General transport carriers+++

Two options
Jump carrier

Role bonus: Jump drive
1 high slot-60cpu (maybe op)
Mass: ~1 billion kg
Ship bay: 3,000,000 m3

or

Covert carrier

Role bonus: Can fit covert ops cloaks
1 high slot
Mass: under 300,000,000 kg
Ship bay: 1,000,000 m3

This ship class would have hp and jump distance like a jump freighter. The covert model would have less tank and warp like an orca. Priced right these ships would be a nice addition.

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-----Fuel ships are not available in any class above industrial and the role is mixed. New larger variations that can carry vast amounts of fuel.

++Tankers++


Jump tanker

Role Bonus: Better inertia
Liquid fuel bay capacity: 300,000 m3
Mass: ~1 billion kg


Covert jump tanker

Role bonus: Can jump to covert cynos
Liquid fuel bay capacity: 150,000 m3
Mass: 450,000,000 kg

Both ships have hp, and other stats equal to their ship size. The cost could range 2-3 billion isk.
Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2014-03-17 18:40:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Rowells
150k fuel hold???

E: 300k fuel hold??????
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#3 - 2014-03-17 19:52:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Batelle
allow the rorqual to move non-mining ships

There is now no need for any further changes.

-1 for "covert carrier"

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Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#4 - 2014-03-17 20:55:34 UTC

The TL;DR;

5 new ships:

1.) Covert JF: A smaller capacity JF (175k capacity) that can jump to a covert cyno.
2.) Jump Ship Hauler: A 1-Highslot (for a cloak) carrier that can haul 3m m3 of assembled ships (6 BS's or 20 cruisers).
3.) Covert Ship Hauler: A Covert-Cloak Capable Orca with a 1m m3 Ship hangar but no notable cargo bay.
4.) Jump Tanker: A JF designed to haul 300k m3 of fuel.
5.) Covert Jump Tanker: A JF designed to haul 150k m3 of fuel and can jump to covert cynos.

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Here is my opinions:

1.) Jump logistics allow you to move from point A to Point B instantly, bypassing the many dangers associated with flying in space. You want to enable these ships to now jump to a covert cyno which is much harder to notice, spot, and intercede in exchange for a minor loss of storage capacity. Hell No.

2.) I'm strangely alright with this, especially if it came in conjunction with a nerf to jump logistics capability (example: marlona sky's suggestion about limiting how much "jump travel" a pilot can do in a day).

3.) People have asked for a highsec ship hauler for quite some time. I'm arlight with this, so long as it can NOT fit a covert cloak, and so long as it has a limited tank, making it a decent target for suicide ganking if you tried to haul around multiple faction ships in it.

4.) This overlaps with the JF too much. Get a JF ( I know they are expensive).

5.) No, for both reasons 1 & 4.
El Geo
Warcrows
NO NEED LOOSE FACE
#5 - 2014-03-17 21:09:29 UTC
I'd be down with a more combat capable Orca myself, I'd get some lads to go over one and convert the ore bay into something useful like extra drone and ship maint space

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Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#6 - 2014-03-17 21:24:59 UTC
ship haulers yes

big fat cloaky logistics ships no.

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