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Do rigs still work without skills?
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AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
#1 - 2014-03-04 14:39:53 UTC
I've been away a while and I seem to recall CCP talking about fixing this. Could anyone confirm/deny whether or not you gain a rig's advantages if someone else fits it to your ship even if you don't have the skills to use it? Preferably with link to dev or whatever.

Thanks.
Sister of Pain
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-03-04 14:54:06 UTC
Yeah they will work if someone fits them and passes you the ship back. I've done it plenty for new players. The skills are just for fitting them, not using them.

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Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#3 - 2014-03-04 15:00:00 UTC
The skills are also for using them as the pilot's skill determines the size of the rig's drawback. So you'll be slower with trimarks, or have less pg with weapons rigs if you don't have the skill trained.

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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#4 - 2014-03-04 16:26:09 UTC
Rig fitting services often serve far more than just new people. For instance, I use T2 large trimarks, but a lot of people can't fit them. If you need T2 rigs on your ships, just ask in Jita when I'm on.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.
Nalelmir Ahashion
Industrial Management and Engineering
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#5 - 2014-03-04 16:33:49 UTC
how does it work they transfer the ships + rigs and get some collateral safety sum or it's pure "trust"
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#6 - 2014-03-04 16:37:28 UTC
That's why you use someone trustworthy. There's definitely a market for it if someone wants to start a business. People come and go offering it, but there hasn't really been on ongoing business offering rig fitting.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.
Yourmoney Mywallet
Doomheim
#7 - 2014-03-04 16:49:39 UTC
Posting to confirm I would definitely trust Erotica 1 with this kind of service.
Sister of Pain
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2014-03-04 18:16:20 UTC
OP, never open a trade window and pass your ship to anyone you don't know.

I'm sure Ero 1 wouldnt mind you making a contract to her for the ship and rigs in the total value of all items in the contract. She could then fit the rigs, add her fee, then contract the fitted ship back to you at that price.

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James Nikolas Tesla
Tesla Holdings
#9 - 2014-03-04 18:40:58 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
Rig fitting services often serve far more than just new people. For instance, I use T2 large trimarks, but a lot of people can't fit them. If you need T2 rigs on your ships, just ask in Jita when I'm on.

I'm not trusting any of you COD-ies with my ships.

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Winchester Steele
#10 - 2014-03-04 18:47:36 UTC
Yourmoney Mywallet wrote:
Posting to confirm I would definitely trust Erotica 1 with this kind of service.



Erotica1 has installed many T2 rigs for me. Great service, very trustworthy. Would recommend to all my friends.

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2014-03-04 19:13:11 UTC
Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:
how does it work they transfer the ships + rigs and get some collateral safety sum or it's pure "trust"

Yes, definitely do it with collateral.

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Nimrod vanHall
Van Mij Belastingvrij
#12 - 2014-03-04 19:14:00 UTC
scam scam scam some more !
AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
#13 - 2014-03-04 19:24:15 UTC
Well that sucks. I was hoping my anemic offensive output yesterday was due to my laser rigs not working (I somehow managed to train 100M+ SP of mostly PVP stuff and never trained Energy Weapon Rigging I.) I guess it was just my inept piloting as usual.

Thanks for the answers. I'll probably test it on an alt just to be sure.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#14 - 2014-03-04 19:30:46 UTC
I can see this thread going down some dark paths.


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Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
#15 - 2014-03-04 20:46:39 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
I can see this thread going down some dark paths.

So bring a torch Blink
Winchester Steele
#16 - 2014-03-05 00:49:09 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
I can see this thread going down some dark paths.





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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2014-03-05 00:54:38 UTC
AkJon Ferguson wrote:
Well that sucks. I was hoping my anemic offensive output yesterday was due to my laser rigs not working (I somehow managed to train 100M+ SP of mostly PVP stuff and never trained Energy Weapon Rigging I.) I guess it was just my inept piloting as usual.

Thanks for the answers. I'll probably test it on an alt just to be sure.



You definitely get the benefits of the rig but cop the full effect of any downside as well.

NOTE: Many (but not all) rigs stack with modules that have the same effect. your rigs may be doing very little if you already have 2 or 3 mods that do the same thing.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#18 - 2014-03-05 01:26:20 UTC
To fit T2 rigs you only need IV, not V, so just spend a few days training your rig skills and you will have your T2's.
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#19 - 2014-03-05 09:07:02 UTC
If you do not have skills you can still use rigs installed by others, but at the full penalty.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
Jerome Gouillot
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2014-03-05 16:06:19 UTC
Confirm Erotica1 rig service being legit. She is also the only legit rig doubler in EvE - just dont forget to read her bio.
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