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you mean like motherships, before the supercarrier buff?

man alive, people didnt complain this much about them and they were way less useful than supercarriers . . . even after the nerf

We (by that I mean shield supers) really need the change of how boni affect our shield HP, as right now we loose about 20% and more just because we jump to another destination. Same Problem appears when you switch the char holding it to the actual battle char, I have to recharge about 50% of its HP before I can do something as anything else is just another form of suicide.

The next thing we need is the new implants for shield HP, for those still arguing that they want remote armor rep ones, too, we don't even have shield ones and if you're referring to christals, they don't work on capital modules.

So these things have already been stated as being looked at, but when can we expect any changes ?


And just because I'm already on it, we need at least 20/20 in our dronebay ! And consider adding or changing fighter/fighterbombers so that they can hit a large POS. One way could be shooting the actual shield first and once that is destroyed one can destroy the tower itself. Besides, in my opinion, we do not need to deal 100% damage to towers/shields, that might make dreads obsolete again, but no damage at all is no solution, too.

We don't "lose shields," the shields increase but it still charges at the same rate. Armor when bonused just magically jumps up.

I disagree with being allowed to hit a tower itself. That's a dread's job. A super is there to get the mods, but really to attack other capital sized ships.

By reading the patch notes, CCP stated the goal of the dronebay is to allow 35 for Hel/Nyx, and 30 for Aeon/Wyvern.

If this is the case, the carrier skill needs to be modified otherwise there's no huge reason to train carrier V.


As I've made clear before, I'm ok with the drop in fighters/bombers, but have come to feel that the carrier bonus needs to change to reflect the drop.

Nope cannot DD structures lol

Shield Supers will always be at a slight disadvantage wich is why the nerf to HP should be more so directed at armor Supers than Shield.

Each Super & titan class needs individual attention when considering nerfing or buffing HP,as generalizing a nerf as has been done, seems a pretty ill though through nerf,just thrown out there to please the masses of super/titan haters.

It ofc needs to be worked on & developed, but as far as Supers go, I personally think a more accurate Nerf would be

Aeon Nerf Shield/Armor/Hull 15%
Nyx Nerf " 10% & possibly cut drone damage bonus in half or roughly half.
Wyvern HP unchanged
Hel BUFF Shield/Armor/Hull 10% & leave the remote shield/armor bonus as it is.

As far as Titans go

Aeon/Erebus Nerf Shield/Armor/Hull 10%
Liviathon no HP change
Rag possibly stay unchanged as with a dual tank it is do-able, but could possibly do with a 10% Buff to Shield/Armor/Hull

As the Niddy stands now it could do with a 10% Buff to Shield/Armor/Hull & leave remote Shield/armor bonus the same.

If a change like this^ is made then having HG slave sort of implants for shield would give especially the Wyvern a rediculious tank. Don't think a shield slave set is the way to go for now at least, try affectively rebalancing the HP 1st as iv indicated above. Something to look at and work on.

The HP nerf is an issue we have our eye on, but what is paramount 1st and fore most, is that the situation is resolved over the Drone bay mess after crucible is released, so with all this talk about other issues involving HP,don't let your self forget CCP what is of Paramount importance to us. Room in drone bay for 20 Fighter Bombers & 20 fighters.

Capital Hybrids are NOT being changed. they are the only weapon size in the game that CCP made comparible across all races for range so all dreads could hit a large POS from outside it's shields.
Mind you I wouldn't put it past CCP reducing the range to force them to use long range ammo. Heaven forbid the Galle have one ship that's best in class in game.

So, I heard that Slaves no longer affect Capitals (or perhaps just Supercapitals). I have no way to confirm this, even after the patch goes live. Can anyone tell me for sure one way or another?

Slaves seem to work for me after patch.

Ok Crucible has been out a couple of days, good job CCP (round of applause), understandable that a few bugs here & there need to be fixed, but we are very much eager to know when & if the ammendment to Supers drone bay of 20 Fighter bombers & 20 Fighters will be implimented in a patch fix very VERY soon!

P.S. ^ is right Hel currently is just meat shield for rest of fleet nothing more!

That doesn't change the fact that a hel has a horrible tank, & becuase of that they are not widely used, & are not even aloud to join fleets in some cases where they are just going to be a hinderance & loss mail. Dual armor/shield is best way to go,but you newt out a Hel, the already aweful tank loses even more of its EHP,leaving it a wreck withing a matter of a couple of minutes now. The remote armor/shield bonus should of stayed at 5% as a niche for the Hel/niddy, but doesn't change the fact that it does REALLY need a buff to HP

I own 2 hel's so well yeah I know that tank wise they are on the low end but I do think there is no need for a buff other then taking the nerf the hel recived back and adding a shield slave set to the game. With that in place the hel will be just fine.
Also regarding neuting yeah you will get neut'd in a knockout fight but when you have 3 capital energy on every hel its kinda impossible to break I mean srsly I dont think I need to tell you just how much cap gets generated by the transfers..