Wormholes

Being relatively new to wormhole space, I understand how it may seem stale, but for me, the meta of wh brawls is still fresh and exciting. While they may look the same on the surface, i've yet to be in a fight where it played out the same.




I'd just like to mention how nice it is to not have to do that 80 jump blue doughnut roam to find targets. I would encourage anyone that feels their area of k space is getting stale to give wh's a shot, The ability to be nowhere and anywhere at the same time will probably keep things fresh for me for quite some time.


v0v, maybe i'll get bitter soon, but for now I wouldn't want it any other way.

Tbh changing 1 or 2 mods can make a huge difference to fleet comp look at the "wrecking ball" that was just a slow cat fleet with all reps moved to super carriers and range mods added to archons high slot

I wouldnt say wh fleet comps have changed hugely fast but there has been a fair bit of change.

going back to the rnk, aharm era a standard fleet was archon bhaals and prots with maybe a few lokis for webs. When the moros had its bonuses changed and t2 seige was put in at same time, blap dreads entered the field fleet comps switched to dread neut legions web lokis and prots supported by guardains. Ecmgu's started appearing to counter the webs

Damps are now used alot more.

It used to be if you had a legion it would be lasers and thats it, now nuet legions are a commen sight and several groups are using ham legions as a staple in fleet comps

with the change to hybrids alot of groups have swapped to rail prots (again not a huge change)

You will often see cap guards which you didnt before

Certain groups have there own fleet for some stuff. TLC's pantheon fleet being one that takes huge advantage of cata effect.

couple groups are using gila's alot, rumour has it banes pod refused to go in any other ship than a gila.

Yeah some groups are still using the old fits from aharm, rnk era I'd say most have moved on and adapted ewar is far more prevelent than it used to be. I've lost track of the amount of times our lokis have had there fits changed or altered since being in noho.

We've had some great fights in the last month alot of the time its from going bhaals deep in to big groups home system.

but had great fights with SSC, UNKNOWN, Disavowed, TLC and Skylian verge. Teamed up with Awakened to spank goons in nullsec. Had nutmeg screaming in our pub channel that he has a couple moros pointed in our static and none of his guys on, I attually felt pretty bad for him as he got closed out along with me and a couple others so missed out on the moros kill. had a fun bc fight with tdsin at the sun, which i think might also have involved a bet for drinks at the next boston meet up.

TLDR fits have changed maybe not alot but it sure as hell isnt the same as it was a couple years ago. Great fights are there to be had if your willing to just go for it. and the great thing about the wh comunity is we can happily fight each other but will often team up with each other to do other stuff.

Some solid smacktalk was removed plus a large amount of off-topic posts. Please stay on topic and do not link killmails, thank you.

You are welcome to discuss general wormhole mechanics in a different thread or, if you have ideas how to improve wormhole based gameplay, to post those ideas on the Features & Ideas forum. Thank you!

Joan Greywind, please read this again

I think you need to stay a little while longer in WH subsection to realise off topic is how we get **** done.

I made the mistake of searching for rule34 on google and lol'd

Found your problem! About the only thing you got right was the "small gang" stuff. We have the same bunch of loveable clueless idiots that everywhere else has, we just have them in smaller groups.

A lot of fleet composition options are limited by the peculiarities of W-space, and by the fact that usually you will be fighting on a hole at close range, ie: brawling. Some of the "more fun" compositions, like Nano fleets, BLOP fleets, or whatever you may find to be "fun", just won't work well. This changes the possible meta options.

Stealth is the name of the game, because the lack of instant Local intelligence data often forces us to be more aware of our surroundings than we might need to be otherwise. If you see ships or probes on dscan when no one else is supposed to be there, it's easy to identify the unidentified as hostile and make the decision to fight or flee. That also changes the meta.

Wormholes are not the esoteric, experimental, uncharted reaches of EVE anymore. They're mainstream now, and the mechanics are fully understood. We know our options, and we know our limitations. We have optimized our list of possibilities, and while constantly testing new things, we tend to come back to what works the best.


Not a big issue, W-space isn't for everyone. Good luck to you, wherever you decide to go.