Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Originally, ccp didnt have ability to put covert ops cloaks on black ops because they were able to do 500% speed when cloaked. NOw they've taken that away but didnt add ability to do covert ops.

Also, the panther has 6 mid slots and 6 low slots but, due to lack of cpu, you cant even fill the 4 mid slots when 2 more LOW slots, for a total of 8, would be more useful - if they dont add more cpu.

So, PLEASE, ccp:

1. Add two (2) more low slots and take away 2 mid slots OR add more cpu.


2. Add back the 500% cloaked speed bonus OR give us ability to fit a covert ops cloak device; if you go with the cloaking device, do the 99% cpu reduction and add more cpu in addition to what you decided to add in the first suggestion.

Of course, the above suggstions are based on the panther; whatever you decide, you need to make sure other black ops ships are changed fairly so they can utilize all the slots they have.

For a ship thats 1.2 billion, its ridiculous I cant get more hpe than any other BS and that I cant keep it alive easier than the othersr. 5 second cloak reactivation isnt that useful compared to covert ops. Seriously, I didnt train 6 million more sp to DOWNGRADE from covert ops to black ops.

An alliance member pointed out that speed bonus may be broken though; im using a "syndicate cloaking device" and I only get 70.1m/s speed, cloaked

warping cloaked is overpowered? What about we only allow them to warp cloaked. This would gimp it considerably.

Edit: This means you can't warp when decloaked

Edit: a bs sized remote ecm burst might be handy so he can break lock to cloak and warp ( or a range and strength bonus to local ecm burst )

Enable them to use Afterburner or MWD while cloaked, class fixed.

tbh, judjing by the last 2 expansion, i just hope that CCP forgets about rebalancing the black ops and just keep them the way they are...... they are in bad shape, but still, at least they can be used

Nevertheless, it's silly that Black ops have less tank than stealth bombers (when you compare them with other ships in same category). Nobody wants them to be as tanky as Marauders, but nobody wants their use to be limited to ganking mining fleets in nullsec. They could also get few unique bonuses, like reduced scan resolution penalty from equipped cloaks and bonus to cap booster injection amount.

how about fitting according to fitting resouces and deal with it?
The panther is fine for what it does, the equation is easy if its too bad for you dont use it.
It is a gank ship anyways so you shouldnt rely on tank anyways, hit and run, they arent for direct combat.

I'd be happy if they gave them a little more damage. I don't exactly plan to stay on grid long enough for my tank to really even matter.

moved down....ccp, give us ability to delete our posts or move them down correctly, so that a thread isnt clutter of replies from same person

lol we found someone who reads but doesnt comprehend something.

even if it does -69% WITH the bonus.........shouldnt it be 125%-90%, to be +35%, instead of -69%? this bonus is still messed up. with the improved, it should be -75% + 125% to be +50% at the end.



I wasnt complaining of the tank or that the tank is bad or anything. it does same as a t1 tempest fitted same actually. I was saying, DONT GIVE US 6 MID SLOTS THAT WE CANT USE, FOR LACK OF CPU!. The cpu is inefficient to fit even all t2 electronics modules that would fit on a RIFTER, in addition to 100mn afterburner and etc.

I was also saying, if you guys would read or comprehend what you read, that we NEED COVERT OPS CLOAK OR put back the 500% speed bonus that we had. The reason we didnt have covert ops was because of the 500% speed cloaked. Yes, this is a jump ship; we should have less tank and etc BUT we should NOT have slots you cant use no matter how you fit it. Even with NOT allowing more tank, by limiting cpu (after allowing mid slots to be filled snugly and have 6 tank modules), one or two more LOW slots to fit NANOFIBERS (or etc that dont take cpu or power) would be NICE on a blops!! Since we have an open mid slot, for lack of cpu, take it away and give another LOW slot....we cant fit anymore tank modules so only use of this slot would be for nanofibers, overdrive, or etc. that doesnt take cpu.

I dont know of the widow or the others but the panther cant fit 6 800mm auto's, the cloak, the bridge, the afterburner, the tank, AND have cpu for warp scrambler/disruptor, tech II, a stasis webbifier II, a tracking computer II. YOu cant even use meta 4 variants and not have one open mid slot, much less EXPECT to have open mid slot and use all tech II electronics moduless Someone said fit ECM and etc in thread above....thats really funny with the cpu it has (or doesn have)