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Why are some people "afraid" of EvE?

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Divine Entervention
Doomheim
#201 - 2014-03-01 02:33:59 UTC
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:
Divine Entervention wrote:
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:
Divine Entervention wrote:
Because veterans lash out at new players in game and on the forums.

I can tell you it's ridiculous how many veteran players feel it necessary to act completely immature, childish and throw out insults to people for having different opinions.

Veterans abuse of new players contributes towards an aire of negativity surrounding the potential desire to engage in a long term relationship with eve.


Some do, most don't. But you have your opinions already set in stone and this topic has become way beyond boring. You have so far brought nothing new to discuss, nothing new to consider and nothing new to get excited about. What you have done is complaining for the sole reason to complain, arguing just to argue and most definitely not to listen to anybody with suggestions, ideas or even solutions ... In short: you are behaving like a troll. And for me from now on you are a troll in these forums who should be ignored.


Well obviously some people like it. I've been playing for a month, posting for about 3 days and have more likes than you.

You might not enjoy what I do, but some people do. Even more compelling, I enjoy it.

I am sorry you are only capable of interpreting and understanding situations from your own point of view, and are unable to step outside of yourself and contemplate experiences from others perspective.

There's a word for it. Egocentric. You are it.

#thebest

You right here is an exact demonstration of my post you quoted and commented on. You being a veteran, having a different point of view than myself, has decided to flame me for it.

You portray your self to be a negative person. That's how I interpret what you just showed me.


Wow... you have more "likes" than I have. Man you are the ONE! ... and you are thirteen years old aren't you?

I am not a veteran, I am a newbie, read my previous posts which you have clearly failed to read.


You've played exactly one year longer than I have. By comparison, my 1 month to your 13 grants me the right to regard you as a veteran, at least in comparison to myself.

Again, you being incapable of considering others perspective.
Nicolai Serkanner
Incredible.
Brave Collective
#202 - 2014-03-01 02:41:42 UTC
Divine Entervention wrote:
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:
Divine Entervention wrote:
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:
Divine Entervention wrote:
Because veterans lash out at new players in game and on the forums.

I can tell you it's ridiculous how many veteran players feel it necessary to act completely immature, childish and throw out insults to people for having different opinions.

Veterans abuse of new players contributes towards an aire of negativity surrounding the potential desire to engage in a long term relationship with eve.


Some do, most don't. But you have your opinions already set in stone and this topic has become way beyond boring. You have so far brought nothing new to discuss, nothing new to consider and nothing new to get excited about. What you have done is complaining for the sole reason to complain, arguing just to argue and most definitely not to listen to anybody with suggestions, ideas or even solutions ... In short: you are behaving like a troll. And for me from now on you are a troll in these forums who should be ignored.


Well obviously some people like it. I've been playing for a month, posting for about 3 days and have more likes than you.

You might not enjoy what I do, but some people do. Even more compelling, I enjoy it.

I am sorry you are only capable of interpreting and understanding situations from your own point of view, and are unable to step outside of yourself and contemplate experiences from others perspective.

There's a word for it. Egocentric. You are it.

#thebest

You right here is an exact demonstration of my post you quoted and commented on. You being a veteran, having a different point of view than myself, has decided to flame me for it.

You portray your self to be a negative person. That's how I interpret what you just showed me.


Wow... you have more "likes" than I have. Man you are the ONE! ... and you are thirteen years old aren't you?

I am not a veteran, I am a newbie, read my previous posts which you have clearly failed to read.


You've played exactly one year longer than I have. By comparison, my 1 month to your 13 grants me the right to regard you as a veteran, at least in comparison to myself.

Again, you being incapable of considering others perspective.


How many hours have I played in one year? How many hours have you played in a month? You compare apples with oranges. Punto e basta.
Divine Entervention
Doomheim
#203 - 2014-03-01 03:01:24 UTC
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:



How many hours have I played in one year? How many hours have you played in a month? You compare apples with oranges. Punto e basta.


So because you can't dispute the fact that you're a veteran insulting a new player, exactly like I described as a reason attributed towards answering the question asked in the thread's title, you insist on making the subject on something I cannot possibly know, asking me how long you've spent playing EVE in a year?

come on now. . . .

If all you do is wish to reinforce my posts by spewing negativity and weak arguments from your veteran by comparison self to my noob self, I suggest you stop because it's making the game and it's veteran player base look bad.
Divine Entervention
Doomheim
#204 - 2014-03-01 03:02:37 UTC
When new people complain about not being able to win 1v1 engagements, or their one self vs many engagements in game, tell them it's OK because they can always go to the forums and slay fools in forum PvP.

Time spent subscribed to EvE has no bearing when smashing kids on the game's forum.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#205 - 2014-03-01 03:15:06 UTC
Divine Entervention wrote:
So because you can't dispute the fact that you're a veteran insulting a new player
He's not a veteran and you're the one insulting people.

Quote:
you insist on making the subject on something I cannot possibly know, asking me how long you've spent playing EVE in a year?
No, that was your doing since you brought it up and made assumptions about his playtime.
Victoria Thorne
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#206 - 2014-03-01 03:30:05 UTC
Divine Entervention wrote:
When new people complain about not being able to win 1v1 engagements, or their one self vs many engagements in game, tell them it's OK because they can always go to the forums and slay fools in forum PvP.

Time spent subscribed to EvE has no bearing when smashing kids on the game's forum.


Considering the high value you claim to hold being nice to people in, I find your attitude most amusing! Big smile

What if your forum opponent did not want to be slain? Sad

Fortunately for you, I don't think you've slain anyone, you silly person! Big smile
Nicolai Serkanner
Incredible.
Brave Collective
#207 - 2014-03-01 03:36:54 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Divine Entervention wrote:
So because you can't dispute the fact that you're a veteran insulting a new player
He's not a veteran and you're the one insulting people.

Quote:
you insist on making the subject on something I cannot possibly know, asking me how long you've spent playing EVE in a year?
No, that was your doing since you brought it up and made assumptions about his playtime.


Thank you.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#208 - 2014-03-01 03:45:23 UTC
Victoria Thorne wrote:
Divine Entervention wrote:
When new people complain about not being able to win 1v1 engagements, or their one self vs many engagements in game, tell them it's OK because they can always go to the forums and slay fools in forum PvP.

Time spent subscribed to EvE has no bearing when smashing kids on the game's forum.

Considering the high value you claim to hold being nice to people in, I find your attitude most amusing! Big smile
What if your forum opponent did not want to be slain? Sad
Fortunately for you, I don't think you've slain anyone, you silly person! Big smile

Of course he hasn't, but if he's not a hypocrite, he will now have to admit that he's likely to want to use violence against children in real life as well. After all, he's demonstrated a desire to do so online and according to his own prejudices this means he should be judged the same outside the forums until he can positively prove otherwise. Lol
Candi LeMew
Division 13
#209 - 2014-03-01 08:12:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Candi LeMew
Divine Entervention wrote:
Well obviously some people like it. I've been playing for a month, posting for about 3 days and have more likes than you.

You might not enjoy what I do, but some people do. Even more compelling, I enjoy it.

Everyone hates me. I've been trying to impress people for three years to no end. Yet I still have more likes than you. The only thing that's improved my likes has been these classy goggles.

So your argument is invalid.

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There's a word for it. Egocentric. You are it.

#thebest

Lol It's when you get a bit too into-character, and say things like this, that you give yourself away as a troll and burn any credence anyone could give your prior posts.

You need to be more #subtletroll

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"I been kicked out of better homes than this" - Rick James
Ai Shun
#210 - 2014-03-01 08:13:00 UTC
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:
Seriously. You are comparing "likes"on this forum as legitimation of your opinions. Shocked


That would mean Tippia is always right.
Candi LeMew
Division 13
#211 - 2014-03-01 08:31:56 UTC
Ai Shun wrote:
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:
Seriously. You are comparing "likes"on this forum as legitimation of your opinions. Shocked


That would mean Tippia is always right.

I'd agree with that.

In fact I have it on good authority that my main wants to take both yourself and Tippia out for a synth-latte next time she's in Empire without a war dec over her head. Don't mention I told you though. Oops

Also here's some likes for you both. But none for that silly man up there.

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Remember... in Anoikis Bob Is Always Watching...

"I been kicked out of better homes than this" - Rick James
Rastafarian God
#212 - 2014-03-01 09:03:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Rastafarian God
Ok I have been skimming since this has not been as entertaining as I hoped. This thread had some real potential, maybee I'll go back and read everything.. but...

To answer the OP, both yes and no.

ALL of my online gaming friends came from EVE. I have a few of there RL phone numbers, know there real names, and have even bullshitted with one guy on the phone on the way home from work. the few of us that are left even play a bit of other games together. Mainly Minecraft though lol. We have lost a few people recently that lost the drive to play however.

But I have forged some really awesome relationships with people in eve and they are the ones I play online with so I do not see this effect in the way you describe.

However.....

I have been trying to get my brother to play EVE for years. He only made it 2 months back when he tried it. I have a pic of him in a frig sitting between the pilons of a megathron somewhere when we where showing him some of the vastness of the game still.

He's a smart guy, he could handle EVE if he stuck with it, but he wont play it anymore. He continues to play Warcraft and Diablo 3 instead although I deleted WOW from my hard drive quite some time back. Some people just can not adapt to the complexity and the sandbox that is EVE. Its even gotton to a point that only 2 and sometimes 3 of my EVE friends are still around. Im the only one that still loves this game almost as much as when I started. Thats why I'm CEO of this small ass rag tag group now lol.

EVE has actually ruined quite a few games for me. I cant play a lot of games now. I am an ESO beta tester and have already quit for example. I tend to opt for things like Minecraft and DayZ now. There are people like me/us, and people that enjoy the theme park. That is the real divide that you are seeing.

As for being afraid. My hands still shake to this day even when I am about to light up a hauler with a battleship on a lowsec gate. This game can actually instill real fear, and thats why I play it.
Serene Repose
#213 - 2014-03-01 15:28:33 UTC
Au contraire, Ja! I love to see folks sissy-slap in text! Now. If they just confine it to this thread, the rest of the forum won't be soiled.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
EvEa Deva
Doomheim
#214 - 2014-03-01 17:24:48 UTC
People I ask to play say there are too many A-holes that play EvE, and they read about DEVs cheating ( T20 ).
samualvimes
Brothers At Arms
#215 - 2014-03-01 17:31:47 UTC
When I briefly flew for caldari militia I used to think all my corp mates were saints and really nice people. Those Gallente scum smack talking in local however were dicks.

Then I changed sides and realised I had been wrong the entire time and that it was the other way round.

There are no bad people in EvE just people opposed to you.

If you've never tried PvP in EvE it's quite possible you've missed out on one of the greatest rushes available in modern gaming.
Abyss Azizora
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#216 - 2014-03-01 17:56:02 UTC
EvEa Deva wrote:
People I ask to play say there are too many A-holes that play EvE, and they read about DEVs cheating ( T20 ).


Those are the responses I get mainly as well, and... I can't really argue with them when they give those reasons, because both are completely true.