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Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2014-02-25 23:11:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Nariya Kentaya
Daichi Yamato wrote:

secret squirrel


That must have been one badass spy, was there a Morocco in local?
DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
#22 - 2014-02-26 01:51:17 UTC
Doireen Kaundur wrote:
Tchulen wrote:
Or you could do what people do in RL and just use nicknames. That way no dev time need be wasted on it.


Anything that adds to the betterment of EVE is never a waste of Dev time.



What about having a colored stripe on the side of your ship? The stripe would be similar to the medal development where you can pick certain features.
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#23 - 2014-02-26 03:03:54 UTC
Dolorous Tremmens wrote:
I love the fact that people have to stick with their names, and especially those people that got hooked on eve while using a really silly temp. name.



really silly temp name can be rerolled up to a few days later and its not end of the world really. Years later if around the lost time won't be missed (I was dumb enough to learn the value of upgrading clone before undock twice....I moved on and not emo raging over the sp retrains anyway).

Or as I like to say make your funny name when drunk/stoned out of your mind. Just be clean and sober on next login to see how cool and creative or idiotic the name is. Of course when dealing with mind altering substances this usually applies to most things lol.
Anhenka
The New Federation
Sigma Grindset
#24 - 2014-02-26 12:32:34 UTC
Your name, your killboard, and your corp history are your records of what you have done in eve.

The older the player, the greater the resistance you will find to anything that allows you to change, obscure, or misdirect someone else as to who you are without metagaming. You do not get to change your name and start over (unless someone decides to dig into your old aliases) when you decide you don't like the reputation you have accrued.

"Oh just put their old names on their char sheet" is a total flake excuse that fails to address the reasons why people don't like the idea of changing.

In general, the older the player, the more accounts on average, and the more likely to be seriously annoyed by any attempt to introduce a way to change your displayed name.

CCP will not risk the ire of their core playerbase for something of trivial benefit to a small number of players.
Luwc
State War Academy
Caldari State
#25 - 2014-02-26 13:32:06 UTC
FiggerNaggot69 reporting in.

http://hugelolcdn.com/i/267520.gif
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#26 - 2014-02-27 07:06:22 UTC
damn this dragged on...really simple workaround here to not need this.


join corp, tell corpies to call you wtf ever you want them to and peeps who get to know you will do so.


Its works. When in a real corp and on say a probe/cyno alts those who knew me well called me by my combat char's name (as I like his name).

Granted this won't work in a 400 blob fest as many won't know you...but tbh you are number at that point anyway lol. And this idea won't even work here either as there are 20+ Mavericks, The Dude, fill in common sliver screen name here, name of rock star, name of vague otaku icon (vague being relative as with 1000 otaku's the vague becomes real common lol), what have you.

Here is how I see it going down with this bad idea:

The dude tackle target A.

Umm fc I am in a sniper rokh, I can't tackle crap

Well f me....the dude in the crow tackle a, rokh disregard

Hey fc I am already tackling, break it?

FC is now raging on comms....no the dude in crow already tackling keep it, the other the dude sitting with his thumb up his ass tackle. And the next time you 3 tards show up in fleet like this I will authorize awoxing to include pods.
Kenrailae
Scrapyard Artificer's
Just Lizard
#27 - 2014-02-27 08:04:33 UTC
Zan Shiro wrote:
Here is how I see it going down with this bad idea:

The dude tackle target A.

Umm fc I am in a sniper rokh, I can't tackle crap

Well f me....the dude in the crow tackle a, rokh disregard

Hey fc I am already tackling, break it?

FC is now raging on comms....no the dude in crow already tackling keep it, the other the dude sitting with his thumb up his ass tackle. And the next time you 3 tards show up in fleet like this I will authorize awoxing to include pods.



Link Me zeh Awox's pls :)


This is a viable concern. But when you already have 3 'The Dude' peeps in fleet, being able to change/tag(For the duration of the Op) as The Dude A, the Dude B, and the Dude C, for example, would actually make things easier, or change them to colors. Red, blue, yellow

(Insert Pokemon Reference)

In this case it could work both ways. I still hold that a fleet of gankers named to the lyric's of Bad -Day http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmNTAvnSais would be hilarious.


But yes, there are things in game that DO work. Acknowledged over and again already. Familiarity leads to these being possible. But you also touched on the other side as well, where peeps don't know. That name recognition as mentioned earlier is important, but so too is doing your homework. Eve isn't called spreadsheets online for nothing lol. It's an interesting topic. And it's not made easier by the armies of alts out there. CCP's endorsement and promotion of alts(See power of 2 deal) promotes circumventing the 'cause/effect/consequence' relationship by just starting a new alt. I don't know for sure where the line is there. But it's definitely a bit grey when you really look at it.

The Law is a point of View

The NPE IS a big deal
Dave Stark
#28 - 2014-02-27 08:58:49 UTC
doesn't the tagging system already achieve exactly what the OP wants?
Jta Grl
2 Pingeons Incorporated
#29 - 2014-02-27 11:15:43 UTC
I believe what the OP wants is basically an option to give yourself a small Title that shows up as a surname. I do support it, with some restrictions. I think that the character can't be allowed to change it more than once a month, for example.
Kenrailae
Scrapyard Artificer's
Just Lizard
#30 - 2014-02-27 11:53:21 UTC
Jta Grl wrote:
I believe what the OP wants is basically an option to give yourself a small Title that shows up as a surname. I do support it, with some restrictions. I think that the character can't be allowed to change it more than once a month, for example.



Out of Curiosity, why that time restriction? JC's are less than 24 hours these days, war cool downs are 24 hours after week long dec's, POS timers are roughly a day and 17hrs. Why a month?

The Law is a point of View

The NPE IS a big deal
Tchulen
Trumpets and Bookmarks
#31 - 2014-02-27 11:54:18 UTC
Jta Grl wrote:
I believe what the OP wants is basically an option to give yourself a small Title that shows up as a surname. I do support it, with some restrictions. I think that the character can't be allowed to change it more than once a month, for example.

I wouldn't be averse to something like what you've just said. I don't think it's what the OP intended and certainly isn't what Kenrailae ranting for but I have no problem with them adding an additional field after the name that could show a title (or callsign or whatever you want to call it) as long as there is the option in the UI to switch it off. If it's not replacing the name as it's displayed to other people (ie the character's actual name is still displayed) and the player has the option to not show the added titles that would be fine.

That way, those who want to designate themselves a callsign could and those that don't want to see it (ie fleets, me and everyone else who considers it unnecessary and potentially confusing info) could chose not to see it. It wouldn't have any real negative impact to the game.

Most sensible suggestion I've heard so far on the subject. +1
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2014-02-27 16:10:56 UTC
Tchulen wrote:
Jta Grl wrote:
I believe what the OP wants is basically an option to give yourself a small Title that shows up as a surname. I do support it, with some restrictions. I think that the character can't be allowed to change it more than once a month, for example.

I wouldn't be averse to something like what you've just said. I don't think it's what the OP intended and certainly isn't what Kenrailae ranting for but I have no problem with them adding an additional field after the name that could show a title (or callsign or whatever you want to call it) as long as there is the option in the UI to switch it off. If it's not replacing the name as it's displayed to other people (ie the character's actual name is still displayed) and the player has the option to not show the added titles that would be fine.

That way, those who want to designate themselves a callsign could and those that don't want to see it (ie fleets, me and everyone else who considers it unnecessary and potentially confusing info) could chose not to see it. It wouldn't have any real negative impact to the game.

Most sensible suggestion I've heard so far on the subject. +1

but if its not going to be displayed prominently, then whats the point of adding it at all? everyone will just call them by the name they see in local, or the first name they hear over comms (no matter how hilariously inappropriate it is)
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#33 - 2014-02-27 17:09:39 UTC
Nariya Kentaya wrote:

but if its not going to be displayed prominently, then whats the point of adding it at all?


indeed. what is the point?

why must the bad guys know u by ur callsign/nickname/title or whatever? they are just calling targets. Or, if they know u enough, they can see ur titles whenever they show info on u.

i'd still say titles cover everything that is wanted by all.

EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs
Jta Grl
2 Pingeons Incorporated
#34 - 2014-02-27 20:48:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Jta Grl
Kenrailae wrote:
Jta Grl wrote:
I believe what the OP wants is basically an option to give yourself a small Title that shows up as a surname. I do support it, with some restrictions. I think that the character can't be allowed to change it more than once a month, for example.



Out of Curiosity, why that time restriction? JC's are less than 24 hours these days, war cool downs are 24 hours after week long dec's, POS timers are roughly a day and 17hrs. Why a month?


It's just a time long enough for GMs being able to spot abuses, like offensive callsigns or impersonation attempts. Since this is a secondary identifier I see no reason for someone to change it too often, so this shouldn't be a problem.
Tchulen
Trumpets and Bookmarks
#35 - 2014-02-27 22:00:03 UTC
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
but if its not going to be displayed prominently, then whats the point of adding it at all? everyone will just call them by the name they see in local, or the first name they hear over comms (no matter how hilariously inappropriate it is)

For some people EVE is a role playing game. Having the callsign (or whatever you want to call it) visible at the choice of the viewer allows a group who wish to use callsigns to communicate instead of names to do that. It also allows those who don't want to use them not to. The choice being with the viewer, the issue of impersonation (which I believe is against CCP rules) is pretty much gone along with most other issues I can think of.

I'm not pro secondary names or changing names at all. Just if they were to add it I think this might not be too bad.
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#36 - 2014-02-27 22:23:33 UTC
Right, first of, the OP has the right to post an idea to discuss and has the right to expect a civil and healthy discussion as a result. You don't have to agree, but post your arguments in a civil manner please. This goes both ways by the way.

That said, I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay.
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