Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I like the drone concept. Consider implementing it with all ships.

But honestly every droneboat should have a secondary dronebay and bandwidth for just ewar drones. Meaning a vexor could potentially launch more than 5 drones, but the ones in excess of that 5 would be ewar.

But let's go straight at the worm. If doing the above, the secondary dronebay would be 10, ewar bandwidth 5. So it could now launch 2 dps drones, and 1 ewar drone (ECM drone, target painting drone , etc).

So the drone frigs could have a 5 ewar bandwidth, cruisers 20, battlecruisers 40, battleships 75.

The max flight of ewar drones would be 3, regardless of ship.

This only works if and only if all ships get similar drone treatment as the worm.

There are a lot of options here (from reducing amount of drones needed for droneboats, to creation and addition to use of all those useless ewar drones).

it makes drone ships less expensive, but it also diminishes the supposed advantages of drones, it's stupid.

Not sure I like the Sansha changes. First, I'm under the impression current Ship damage bonuses are multiplicative (the flat 100% and the 5% / level), thus reducing overall damage. Second, because the afterburner bonus, as a few people pointed out earlier, make them a sort of laser-based (and thus less versatile) Angel, with huge signatures to boot. You could explore other options, such as:

Giving them 4% shield resist/level or shield amount/level (maybe shuffling a mid slot or two to lows, to avoid uber tanks and open room for more damage /tracking mods).

Making them armor based tanks and giving another Caldarish bonus such as (and don't hate me for it), ecm - thus creating laser and armor based, more durable ECM ships.

Giving them bonus cloaked speed / reduced cloak delay (techy, but not conflicting with SoE, since they use covert cloaks and sansha ships wouldn't).

Giving them some other unique bonus, such as %cap / level, reduced mwd sig or something like it.


As for the Guristas changes, I've also got mixed feelings. Yes, they get a bit more potential damage, but specific damage bonuses suck and the reduced bandwidth would actually reduce the survivability of the Worm and the Gila (assuming the later also gets a similar change), since they wouldn't be able to field 5 ecm drones anymore in order to escape from a tight spot (which, let's face it, it's their biggest asset, since caldari hull in general are amongst the slowest for every ship category).

Why not something like: This

Where you could make faction named bastion modules or simply use the current module for battleships to add function to them. Really dislike your Gurista changes althought the Kinetic-Thermal missile bonus idea would be really nice! Sanshas and Bloods look great, good thinking there.

This just in, a solo frigate or cruiser vs a gang of ships loses....

Honestly, if you have 4 people webbing and painting you it doesn't matter what hits you. Your odds of survival are slim regardless at that point. The fact that it requires several people to pin you to the point the Dread can hit you IS the balancing factor.

That advantage wod be lagging the field till people crash?

Drone revamp has to happen, and it is. Main part is volume of drones itself.

I look forward to the changes

I'm guessing they think that 1 pirate ship won't kill all of eve...

I like the changes in general, but what has always bugged me is, why do Gallente-Minmi still have two options when it comes to pirate ships?

With the introduction of the Sisters covering Gallente Amarr, we still don't have Minmatar-Caldari skill bonused pirate line. Is it possible with the rebalance that we could see Angels shifted to have their bonus being based off Minmatar-Caldari? (shifting serpentis from gallente goes against lore somewhat)

It seems unnecessary to introduce new pirate faction line to cover this combination given enough pirate factions exist. The Angels also already cover basic Caldari skill tendencies, such as favoring shield tanking, and preferring optimal range/falloff bonused ships.

Giving a drone ship bonus only for 1 type of drones basically means killing its versatility (doesnt mean much for worm, but gila and rattler, thats another thing).

Web strenght bonus should really be lowered, at least on the bigger hulls.

Cruor is meh. In its engagement range web strenght bonus was much more powerful, if you are giving it web range bonus, also give it RANGE bonus for neut/nos.

Stop being crybabies, all changes look good...especially if you take into account the state of the hulls before them. I really look forward to the new Worm myself, I think a 10mn AB support frig loadout would be peachy...


Glad to hear that, and thanks for a very nice re-balance thread...can you confirm at this point whether the faction will be one of the known candidates? (Thukker, Mordus Legion) C: