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Drop Shuttles 514

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Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
#1 - 2014-02-25 14:58:53 UTC
Ok, to preface this for clarity, I am NOT advocating for free DUST 514 accounts on PC, nor am I advocating any change to the existing structure involving the PS3 system with current DUST 514.

What I am suggesting, is the option for paid accounts, whether by PLEX or subscription directly, to have comparable DUST 514 access.

I had read in another forum that the PS3 has a bottleneck on bandwidth of some kind. This is not an obstacle, as PC connections can be slowed down to compensate.

I read in other places that the graphics on the PS3, being specialized for hardware and thereby optimal beyond many PC's abilities, meant that PC's could not display the same graphic quality.

To this I would say, as long as I know what I am looking at, I don't really care if I can see the pimples on someone's arm...
I just want to shoot at it.

OK, enough pre-explanation already:

Give us drop shuttles that we can go down to the surface in.
If we need to establish a specialized PI structure to allow it to land, that's fine, and gives existing ground forces a means to block further incursions by taking it out.
At least, temporarily. EVE pilot's would have handicaps, clearly.

Keep in mind this would be for paid EVE accounts, and the pilot in question would need to reach the planet in question directly.
This means taking an otherwise unarmed shuttle to it, which could be stopped by many methods.

Have I left out details?
Mag's
Azn Empire
#2 - 2014-02-25 15:00:18 UTC
This could be the role the Messtor Nestor was looking for. It shows a shuttle bay in the drawing.

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Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
#3 - 2014-02-25 22:50:41 UTC
Mag's wrote:
This could be the role the Messtor Nestor was looking for. It shows a shuttle bay in the drawing.

Quite possibly...

It could also be interesting if an orbital bombardment could be tactically accurate enough to take out the landing structure, thereby removing the pilot from ground action.
Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
#4 - 2014-02-26 14:33:26 UTC
Another possibility is that the pilot could only operate vehicles, relegating them to a support only role.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#5 - 2014-02-26 15:48:24 UTC
OP, that doesn't even make sense. I don't think you know very much about Dust. For one, Dust accounts are already free. If you want to play Dust on PC, then that means porting it to PC. And if you want to do so without creating a Dust account, that would mean that your Eve account would work in Dust, meaning your Eve character would need a Dust skilltree added. There's a limit to how many people can be in a battle, so you can't allow people from Eve to just fly in and join wherever they feel like. Dust is not like a persistent MMO that is happening on each planet.

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Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
#6 - 2014-02-26 15:58:30 UTC
Batelle wrote:
OP, that doesn't even make sense. I don't think you know very much about Dust. For one, Dust accounts are already free. If you want to play Dust on PC, then that means porting it to PC. And if you want to do so without creating a Dust account, that would mean that your Eve account would work in Dust, meaning your Eve character would need a Dust skilltree added. There's a limit to how many people can be in a battle, so you can't allow people from Eve to just fly in and join wherever they feel like. Dust is not like a persistent MMO that is happening on each planet.

Dust and EVE are designed to interconnect.

Dust may not seem like an MMO too you, but their players can join your corporations. And while I have not tried the reverse, I am told we can join their's too.

It is also an intended design that EVE and Dust players should have impacts on each other's play.

Dust accounts are already free? Technically correct, but this assumes you already own a PS3, of course.
If you do not, then it is certainly not free, unless you can get the required hardware at no cost.

Please answer this, if you would...
Why should EVE players, who DO pay to play our MMO, be denied at least some degree of access by PC, to what has been defined quite clearly as a connected aspect of our game?

I am quite happy that CCP wishes to diversify into other areas, but denying us this serves no genuine purpose that I can see.
Mr Doctor
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2014-02-26 16:13:39 UTC
Because Eve is a better game and even though I havent payed for Eve in a long time I would rather do that than play Dust.... and I have a PS3. I dont think you know how small the Dusk link is either, its basically a spreadsheet sync, theres no actual engine contact.

Itll come to PC one day and lets face it, all this topic is is a disguised "port dust to pc".
Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
#8 - 2014-02-26 17:14:10 UTC
Mr Doctor wrote:
Because Eve is a better game and even though I havent payed for Eve in a long time I would rather do that than play Dust.... and I have a PS3. I dont think you know how small the Dusk link is either, its basically a spreadsheet sync, theres no actual engine contact.

Itll come to PC one day and lets face it, all this topic is is a disguised "port dust to pc".

Not even sure you answered the topic, as it seems you were replying to something different yet related.

Is EVE better?
Of course it is, that was never suggested otherwise.
By comparison, DUST is a MOBA style minigame inside of the EVE Universe, with ties allowing crossover impact in both directions.

As for you paying for EVE, the player and the payer are not necessarily the same person. Never were, since the PLEX hit the market due to CCP being rather clever.
But, as you already understand, someone did pay cash for that PLEX to be created in the first place. The fact that they may have traded it to you for ISK in no way changes this.

And no, I would not ask for a straight port to PC directly, as you implied. I doubt such a direct copy would satisfy the needs which inspired and helped CCP get DUST onto the PS3, so that is not what I am looking for.

I am asking for the paying EVE players, including those using someone else's money through the PLEX system, to have access to a modified version of DUST.

We are paying to play here, ultimately, and I would like to at least get something from this CCP side project.
Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
#9 - 2014-02-26 17:18:24 UTC
Nikk Narrel wrote:


We are paying to play here, ultimately, and I would like to at least get something from this CCP side project.


Me too. I'd rather them work on WIS (which I don't like very much) than work on EvE pilots fighting in Dust matches. The free to play and EvE's subscription model just don't seem like they sync up very well.
Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
#10 - 2014-02-26 17:37:13 UTC
Noxisia Arkana wrote:
Nikk Narrel wrote:


We are paying to play here, ultimately, and I would like to at least get something from this CCP side project.


Me too. I'd rather them work on WIS (which I don't like very much) than work on EvE pilots fighting in Dust matches. The free to play and EvE's subscription model just don't seem like they sync up very well.

That could be a great option too.

But, please keep in mind, they already rolled out DUST 514, and it is running in parallel to our FiS servers.
We share chat functions, and we can affect each other's game play directly, under specific circumstances.

Placing some form of "Walking in ..." has been done already, but exclusively for the PS3 players.

Do we want to isolate them, and make an entirely new and separate first person experience for EVE by itself, or would it be more practical to build on what we already have in existence?