Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I'm kinda meh on the plan for the Bloodraiders. It might work OK with the cruor, but I worry about the Ashimmu. In both ships you have neut/nos amount bonuses but no range bonus, though perhaps the web range bonus will be enough to let you close with targets.

I do think it is hard to talk about the plan without seeing the changes for the cruisers though. If those work with the new plan, great. I don't fly many frigs, and am much more interested in cruiser changes.

You'd think it would have to be 50m^3 for each, with the Gila getting a role bonus to heavies and the Rattlesnake to sentries (would certainly boost interest in that hull again after the omni nerf). A 20m^3 bay and bonus to mediums on the Gila would be far too underpowered, surely, though a bonus to heavies would not seem to resolve the problem that Rise mentions, that the Gila has been overshadowed by the Ishtar. Certainly keen to see where this goes!

btw: any chance we can get 10 run BPCs from the LP stores for these ships ? :D

Some exciting looking changes here, nice to see that they actually benefit and encourage small scale pvp for once.. the web changes to blood ships are nice to see, finally evens the race out a bit as far as utility. Also im in favour of keeping the web bonus for serps so please do :-)

Yay, succubus is getting a boost. Gonna be a speedy little bugger.


How about a phantasm, is it getting a boost too?

Rattlesnake = only shield tanked drone ship ingame that is viable.

"Lets take the redundant missile velocity bonus and make it a redundant missile damage bonus."



Also as someone who literally only pilots a rattlesnake unless I'm in a shuttle or in a site the rattler can't get into, I am very strongly opposed to the rattlesnake changing in a negative way. I'll have to wait to see what you guys do as so far for balancing you've done a bang up job.

I would argue that giving the rattler a sentry drone tracking bonus would perfect it. You'll say "But it overlaps with the dominix!" but it doesn't. No-one shield tanks a dominix. No-one armor tanks a rattler. There is no overlap there.

Get an armor tanked dominix, or shell out for a pimped faction shield domi. Sounds fine to me.

This looks awesome!

Rise, you should change the wording on the Cruor to

'Energy Vampires fitted to this ship will drain targeted ship's capacitor regardless of your own capacitor level'

makes it easy to understand without hurting the English Language.

i hate to be so negative, but you asked for opinions, an i have one:

unimaginative changes.

AB speed bonus for sansha makes sense how?
Speed is a Minmatar thing, Minmatar, as in "can't afford as high-tech-as-other-races-so-goes-for-an-speed-option".
While Sansha is one of the most technologically advanced factions in eve.
What could have been some imaginative solution? how about some specific anti-drone ecm, that messes with bandwidths or drone control? That would actually sound like a technology sansha could have, doesn't it?

the blood changes actually make sense, even though they are not really creative.

guristas: drones used to be a gallente thing that amarr would sort-of-use-as-well-but-not-as-much-as-gallente.. but now we have amarr, gallente both drone operators.. so yeah, why not a lore wise caldari based faction being even more drone focused as well...


the blood change ends up being the only one that makes real sense, the other two don't really diversify those factions from the 4 main races, infact they seem to equal them out even more, rather than creating a rock paper scissors situation.

one thing i still find strange is the daredevil and dramiel drone usage...

serpentis - based on gallente thus should have drones
angel - based on minnie whose frigs don't have drones .. seems too me you should switch the the ships around on drones..

Angels
- is shield tanked according too ibis yet here has same armour as shields why? nerf armour focus on shields+speed+kiting
- masters of projectiles ? ... not convinced maybe stronger falloff bonus? will whole line have tracking bonus?

Serpentis
- is the line attack or combat? daredevil lacks tank (is it armour or shields?) and is much slower than dramiel
- sort out drone issue as described above
- is falloff bonus going too be a line bonus? .. vigilant/vindi/daredevil have different bonuses falloff or tracking

Gurista
- 300% seems a little high perhaps some comparison too 5 50% bonused drones would help here to clarify its usefulness
-i like the missile damage bonus .. my concern is how much dps comes from both sources maybe some stats here please?
- also still has 10 slots ? drone boats -1 slot should apply here

Blood Raider
- i think some neut/nos range bonus would help here perhaps in exchange for some strength so 10% range and strength
- you need too look at nos/neut mods .. fittings is pretty high for nos and at T2 level is high all round also T2 neuts/nos do nothing over meta 4 this clearly needs fixing...

webs
- 60% is still strong as basic ... most e-war is poor as basic TD's ecm etc... webs/neuts seem too be on there own here..
webs make TP's obsolete in most situations ... an unbonused web is more powerful than a bellicose TP in effect this is wrong .. 10% web strength is also too strong even if you reduced web strength too a basic 30-40%.... i believe you need to look at rebalancing webs before you release these..

5 drones with 50% bonus = 7.5 effective drones
2 drones with 300% bonus = 8 effective drones