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Categorisation of kills - earn isk! (maybe)

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Amun Shazih
Industria Traho Incorporated
#1 - 2014-02-24 01:13:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Amun Shazih
Good time of the void - Update 16/03/2014

I am creating software that will automatically classify kills. It's part of my uni degree, and a project on machine learning and data analysis. I had a little bit of success, and now I need more data.
I learnt a bit of php and put together a php script that makes ranking kills quick and easy. I need some crowd-sourcing to get the tags of your, yes, your, past kills and deaths, or rank kills of random people and earn isk. Here!

40mill for 10 of your own kills, ranked <-- Still putting together the script
10mill for 10 random kills ranked

This is until I run out of money, 500 mill for each category. You can navigate away from the page, check related kills and etc. put you must rank the kill that opened.

What's the use of this in Eve?
Imagine pulling up statistics on the game, and figuring out how performance of hyperion has improved after the recent patch, and if you should get yourself a pvp fitted one. Well, you are not interested in people dying to NPC's, or getting ganked in low-sec when they where trying to mine in it. A program like this could filter through all the noise and focus precisely on the kills you are interested in.

Or being an alliance leader and looking at a report from your recent

It turns out people are not that willing to fill in spreadsheets in their spare time, so I when ahead and leart a bit of php to make this easy. have picked a bunch of categories off the

What is it useful for in the real world?
Kills in eve are quite similar to real crimes, you know a lot about the victim, but not much about the attackers besides how many of them there where, and what they where armed with. And that's often wrong *looks at CCP*. IBecides that, it's an excersize in large data analysis, and there is a slim chance we will discover something new. And I get my degree

What will you do with the data?
I am going to see how well my automatic classifier performs and compare it to performance of people, taking those that ranked their own kills as the gold standard. Then i will write up my degree paper.
Then make a few (hopefull) pretty graphs and post them on the forums.
I am quite happy to make the final dataset publicly available if there is interest.

How do I know I will get my money?
This is an officially approved research project, so if you complain to the university management I would get a slap on the wrist Big smile
I have 500 million to spend on categorised kills of others, and 500 mill for kills of yourself. The isk will be issued on First come-first serve basis, and you will need to correctly quote your IP to receive your reward. I might add more ISK to the pot, but I do not guarantee it. If your Ip is dynamic, type "What is my IP" into Google and make note of yours.
Check How many Records where filled in so far

Can't I choose values, screw up your data and earn some isk?
Yes, you probably could make me a sad panda

Why dont you have X as an option?
post below, and I might add it if I think it makes sence
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#2 - 2014-02-24 01:45:52 UTC
Duel?

I have no clue why you are doing it, or how you expect to be able to classify these things automatically, but I'm intrigued - if only because I don't immediately see a purpose for it, so I'm curious.
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#3 - 2014-02-24 01:47:54 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Duel?

I have no clue why you are doing it, or how you expect to be able to classify these things automatically, but I'm intrigued - if only because I don't immediately see a purpose for it, so I'm curious.


Because what "Spreadsheets in Space" needs is...























MORE SPREADSHEETS!!!!

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Felicity Love
Doomheim
#4 - 2014-02-24 01:56:03 UTC
Well, if you're going to categorize "kills" then you should illustrate the cowardice as well to truly offer a fuller picture of Pilot culture in EvE.

"Hiding in Station" and "Dropped Corp" should both be under the category of "Wall of Shame".





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baltec1
Bat Country
The Initiative.
#5 - 2014-02-24 01:56:21 UTC
It would make my life a little easier if I could track my mega kills
Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-02-24 05:22:41 UTC
Amun Shazih wrote:
Good time of the void
I am making a program that will automatically classify kills. How would you categorise different kills?
So far what i've got:

Piracy
Retaliation - When someone tries to attack a miner or other obvious target and dies in the process.
Fleet (null)
War (h-sec)
Assault - When a well armed group gets attacked, but their initial goal was not PVP. E.g. Sleeper farming, Running Sites, etc.
Clash - Two roaming gangs, Gatecamps vs Roam, etc. Smaller than a proper fleet battle
Siege- POS'es
Harassment - can flips, etc.
Suicide Attack - Smartbombing hulks in H-sec


Piracy: Tacking a target and ransoming him for stuff


Nothing you listed there is piracy. Evil

"CCP Dolan is full of shit." - CCP Bettik

Amun Shazih
Industria Traho Incorporated
#7 - 2014-02-24 06:10:37 UTC
Lugia3 wrote:


Piracy: Tacking a target and ransoming him for stuff


Nothing you listed there is piracy. Evil


It's a separate category, I just just couldn't be bothered to define it
Yarda Black
UK Corp
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2014-02-24 09:30:34 UTC
Lugia3 wrote:
Amun Shazih wrote:
Good time of the void
I am making a program that will automatically classify kills. How would you categorise different kills?
So far what i've got:

Piracy
Retaliation - When someone tries to attack a miner or other obvious target and dies in the process.
Fleet (null)
War (h-sec)
Assault - When a well armed group gets attacked, but their initial goal was not PVP. E.g. Sleeper farming, Running Sites, etc.
Clash - Two roaming gangs, Gatecamps vs Roam, etc. Smaller than a proper fleet battle
Siege- POS'es
Harassment - can flips, etc.
Suicide Attack - Smartbombing hulks in H-sec


Piracy: Tacking a target and ransoming him for stuff


Nothing you listed there is piracy. Evil


A pirate with a lot of kills isnt really a very good pirate. Killer, yes. Pirate? No.
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
#9 - 2014-02-24 11:43:32 UTC
Lugia3 wrote:
Amun Shazih wrote:
Good time of the void
I am making a program that will automatically classify kills. How would you categorise different kills?
So far what i've got:

Piracy
Retaliation - When someone tries to attack a miner or other obvious target and dies in the process.
Fleet (null)
War (h-sec)
Assault - When a well armed group gets attacked, but their initial goal was not PVP. E.g. Sleeper farming, Running Sites, etc.
Clash - Two roaming gangs, Gatecamps vs Roam, etc. Smaller than a proper fleet battle
Siege- POS'es
Harassment - can flips, etc.
Suicide Attack - Smartbombing hulks in H-sec


Piracy: Tacking a target and ransoming him for stuff


Nothing you listed there is piracy. Evil


That still happens?
Amun Shazih
Industria Traho Incorporated
#10 - 2014-02-28 09:06:04 UTC
I finally managed to get the kill record and the database working! Some basic plots:

How many people are shooting you depending on their security Status
How many people will be shooting you depending on solar system's security status

II need some crowd-sourcing to get the tags of your, yes, your, past kills and deaths! If anyone is kind enough, please fill your kills into the google doc:
Google Drive

What i will do with that information:

  1. Collect loads of tags for killmails. Because people are tagging their own pask kills/losses, I assume that they know what they are doing
  2. Use it for machine learning, or cluster the data and use it to stick Labels on them
  3. Check how much players agree with their own labelling amongst each-other
  4. Check how much they agree with automatic labeling
Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2014-02-28 23:35:41 UTC
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
Lugia3 wrote:
Amun Shazih wrote:
Good time of the void
I am making a program that will automatically classify kills. How would you categorise different kills?
So far what i've got:

Piracy
Retaliation - When someone tries to attack a miner or other obvious target and dies in the process.
Fleet (null)
War (h-sec)
Assault - When a well armed group gets attacked, but their initial goal was not PVP. E.g. Sleeper farming, Running Sites, etc.
Clash - Two roaming gangs, Gatecamps vs Roam, etc. Smaller than a proper fleet battle
Siege- POS'es
Harassment - can flips, etc.
Suicide Attack - Smartbombing hulks in H-sec


Piracy: Tacking a target and ransoming him for stuff


Nothing you listed there is piracy. Evil


That still happens?


Yes. Yes it does.

"CCP Dolan is full of shit." - CCP Bettik

SpoonRECKLESS
Beach Boys
The Minions.
#12 - 2014-03-01 01:05:48 UTC
Kimmi Chan wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Duel?

I have no clue why you are doing it, or how you expect to be able to classify these things automatically, but I'm intrigued - if only because I don't immediately see a purpose for it, so I'm curious.


Because what "Spreadsheets in Space" needs is...























MORE SPREADSHEETS!!!!


Spreadsheet all the things?

Blue

Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#13 - 2014-03-01 01:16:12 UTC
Amun Shazih wrote:
How would you categorise different kills?

A destroyed ship is either a market opportunity or, erh, another market opportunity.

CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.

Nicolai Serkanner
Incredible.
Brave Collective
#14 - 2014-03-01 02:30:11 UTC
I miss the "dumb luck"kill. The only ones I have managed so far.
Amun Shazih
Industria Traho Incorporated
#15 - 2014-03-16 23:29:29 UTC
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