Ships & Modules

They are already have significant differentiators. In addition to shield vs armor, the ishtar is skewed more towards tanking on its t2 resists compared to the omnitank bonus and all-around better hp of the gila. The gila also gets supplemental dps from missiles vs the ishtar's superior projection and range. Gila also has a better drone bay but a much worse cargobay, and much worse targeting range.

Not surprised with such an answer, given who supplied it.
You might want to retract that, given what your associate just did to Sentry Drones, which is to say, totally wrecked them.

The Ishtar also has a superior capacitor which become very apparent when our sentry fleet is kiting

Approaching this from a wierd angle, the trick is to take advantage of what the phantasm does have (MASSIVE fitting room) to make up for what it lacks ( Anything resembling capacitor). With this, and an alt, I have seen quite a bit of success in PVE and surprise PVP (killing ninja looters) in highsec. While cap chaining is frowned upon in subcap PVP, it does allow you to create a ship that is just plain MEAN in its intended environment.

[Phantasm, Missioning]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Damage Control II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script
Large Shield Extender II

Heavy Beam Laser II, Multifrequency M
Heavy Beam Laser II, Multifrequency M
Heavy Beam Laser II, Multifrequency M
Large Remote Capacitor Transmitter II
Auto Targeting System II

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

Vitals:
38k EHP
501 DPS guns
19km optimal with listed scripts
66% stable if chained.

At least it has an auto targeting system.

... What?

It's ok. You're trying to make the best situation out of a horrible ship. We don't blame you.
It just a shame since it's an amazing looking ship... yet I would rather select most tech 1 cruisers going into a PvP brawl.

Not after the recent changes to Battlecruisers.

Your fitting is nice for PvE allthough I would personaly prefer at least an Afterburner, better a MWD, on cruiser sized ships I can see it doing its job.


The problem is, a Harbinger can do the exact same job but better.




That itself is the main problem of the Phantasm it has nothing it excells in compared to similar ships. Just saying, a Zealot may not have the extra high slott for the cap transfer but you can throw out a turret, end up with the exact same damage by having more range and still be able to use the cap transfer.

This fit is crap and still could keep up with a phantasm damage- and utilitywise.




EDIT: Just to be sure, fly the ship how you like but this ship needs more than "some love", as CCP Ytterbium put it. The tracking bonus is nothing to write home about since tracking is already no problem for cruiser sized amarr ships, especialy when you go for shieldtank. He might be the defining bonus on a Nightmare but the Phantasm does not need it and neither does the Succubus.

EDIT TWO: Since they already have free high slotts how about some bonus to other high slott modules instead of tracking? Energy transfers might be an option but Blood raider already have the high slott energy boni. But since Sansha is a tactical mastermind how about giving them the ability to fit Gang assist modules, just without bonus to anything. Or some bonus to missiles allthough this might be kind of OP but would make them unique in terms of faction ships.

There is also no ship with a bonus to smartbombs or has a bonus for using "Boosters" (aka drugs) some bonus in this direction would make them pretty interesting throughout the board.

That is actually not uncommon on sansha ships. I have seen multiple Nightmares doing the same with great success. You either have a drone boat as secondary ship that assignes the drones to you, gives you cap and some shield repairs or maybe you even go full support with a basilisk, making your tank virtualy indestructible for any NPC, giving you the slotts neccessary to go for maximum damage and range.

Some Marauders tried this aswell but I think Bastion mode did put an end to these efforts.

Hmm, I thougt more of some Plex and 0.0 ratting stuff instead of highsec missionrunning but even then you can go fo a noctis as secondary ship or a drone boat as well.


Anyway, still think its not for L3 Missions in Highsec.