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Proclus Diadochu
Mar Sarrim
Red Coat Conspiracy
#141 - 2014-02-13 04:05:17 UTC
Tyrant Scorn wrote:
Interview with Pell Helix can be found:
http://www.legacyofacapsuleer.com/mp3/LOAC_ep_01.mp3

Interview with Axloth Okiah to give the invaders perspective will be released tomorrow hopefully...


This has literally been the hardest podcast to finish. ever.

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Gnaw LF
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#142 - 2014-02-13 04:30:38 UTC
Tyrant Scorn wrote:
Interview with Pell Helix can be found:
http://www.legacyofacapsuleer.com/mp3/LOAC_ep_01.mp3

Interview with Axloth Okiah to give the invaders perspective will be released tomorrow hopefully...



Why bother, he and his alliance are small fry in low sec and a non-entity in w-space. At this point I'd be more interested in hearing from CEO of Marmite Collective.
Proclus Diadochu
Mar Sarrim
Red Coat Conspiracy
#143 - 2014-02-13 04:38:15 UTC
Gnaw LF wrote:
Tyrant Scorn wrote:
Interview with Pell Helix can be found:
http://www.legacyofacapsuleer.com/mp3/LOAC_ep_01.mp3

Interview with Axloth Okiah to give the invaders perspective will be released tomorrow hopefully...



Why bother, he and his alliance are small fry in low sec and a non-entity in w-space. At this point I'd be more interested in hearing from CEO of Marmite Collective.


Actually a Crossfire episode between Pell and Bane would be fun.

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Tyrant Scorn
#144 - 2014-02-13 05:29:55 UTC
Proclus Diadochu wrote:
Actually a Crossfire episode between Pell and Bane would be fun.


Bane didn't respond to my mail, so too bad for him, I gave him the chance but he didn't take it.

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Bane Nucleus
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#145 - 2014-02-13 06:02:34 UTC
I didn't feel the need to do it. It was not my op. I do however apologize for not responding to your mail.

No trolling please
Proclus Diadochu
Mar Sarrim
Red Coat Conspiracy
#146 - 2014-02-13 06:05:48 UTC
Bane Nucleus wrote:
I didn't feel the need to do it. It was not my op. I do however apologize for not responding to your mail.


It's your fault we had to listen to a garbage podcast, Bane. Apology accepted.

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Tyrant Scorn
#147 - 2014-02-13 06:06:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Tyrant Scorn
Bane Nucleus wrote:
I do however apologize for not responding to your mail.


Thanks, you're welcome to come and chat about other very exciting stuff in a future episode...

Proclus Diadochu wrote:
It's your fault we had to listen to a garbage podcast, Bane. Apology accepted.


Let's pretend for a moment that I actually care what you think... There are other ways of giving constructive criticism and actually forwarding idea's and suggestions to make sure next episode will be better...

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Proclus Diadochu
Mar Sarrim
Red Coat Conspiracy
#148 - 2014-02-13 06:31:29 UTC
Tyrant Scorn wrote:
There are other ways of giving constructive criticism and actually forwarding idea's and suggestions to make sure next episode will be better...


Since you do care, I'll tell you how to start fixing your podcast:

1. Buy a mic.
2. Tone your opening music down when you start talking.
3. Structure your timeline so your guest doesn't just chest thump and ramble about having half a trillion in a wormhole, which sounds ridiculously unlikely and also stupid. Also, Pell, you didn't replace Narwhals.
4. Don't record a podcast around one guest, unless it's a legit interview, which should be objective, which this was not.
5. If you are going to focus on one guest, don't suck his d***, unless you want to sound like propaganda.

There's a start.

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calaretu
Honestly We didnt know
#149 - 2014-02-13 08:29:40 UTC
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:
More nonsense and propaganda


Since you keep on insisting posting this garbage and Pell calls us 2nd class citizen on podcast I'll do what I normally do not do and reply to this.

You, Seraph (yes you personally), is an example of whats wrong with entire SYJ. Everyone not contributing to your personal aim is garbage to you. Several times we have come out to aid on your lousy tower timers in lowsec but when we need aid you dont care. When theres a "paid" op defending some c3 you show with a 80 man fleet. But when its about aiding alliance members you dont even bother to ask said alliance members for a way in. Nor did you bother to ask how many caps we got in there. Or talk to allies for aid. Or even talk to us about coordinating any kind of defense. You just didnt care. The fleet you brought wasnt to save us. That was to save Pell's ego. If it wasnt you would have at least talked to the ceo's of the corps in the wh about a time we could peak our fleet.

I literally pitty the few euros who are staying with you because you have a few decent pilots. I hope they never get to deal with the crappy leadership and I regret the day we joined you guys. Not because of the invasion. We can recover from that. But for wasting months ingame trying to get some kind of communication going across timezones. I hope PL realise the error in supporting you guys and just leave you to your own failure.

And no, I havent ever seen any pay from alliance merc ops. And no, you will never see your loan to Pell for his titan repayed. And yes the mythical srp will continue to be 6 months late.

To everyone else: SYJ has no presence in WH space at all anymore. Nothing. And if you didnt understand it; yes we are dropping the stupid alliance. We would do better by mining veldspar in a c1

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Bane Nucleus
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#150 - 2014-02-13 08:38:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Bane Nucleus
Quote:

just read the thread on the forums and we did indeed not get payed for a merc op we did for pell helping some germans blowing up pos's.

also some of our guys some time later when we already was disgruntled at pell this happens....

http://killboard.low-class.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=20114

he wasnt set to blue either to us or the alliance at the time of the kill.
pel starts screaming like a infant with no toys that he was supposed to be blue and we will give the stuff back and repay him.

we ofc didnt like the idea of giving away loot we gotten the right way in our eyes.
after alot of threats from pell nash and the directors came to a conclusion of giving the remaining blueprints back to them but not pay them anything at all, that pell had to do as he hadnt set them to blue as he claims he did.

needless to say we were saying **** you pell long before you guys started burning their hole.
none of the grunts here ever liked being on ops with his crew either.

just wanted to clear it up abit so you get the whole picture and i didnt want to post on the thread.

if you use this pls dont use my name in there as nash would get cranky.

thnx m8
/not tim



Interesting

No trolling please
Lenroc Elisav
Lenny'S TAX evasion 101
#151 - 2014-02-13 09:02:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Lenroc Elisav
Tyrant Scorn wrote:
Interview with Pell Helix can be found:
http://www.legacyofacapsuleer.com/mp3/LOAC_ep_01.mp3

Interview with Axloth Okiah to give the invaders perspective will be released tomorrow hopefully...


HaHa 0:02:00 to 0:02:30 sums up mister Pell and this podcast. Thanks for doing that at the beginning saved me a lot of time ;).

On a more serious note I've checked the SYJ kill-board for low and null sec fights (haven't been very thorough though) and didn't really find anything worth noting. I'd like a link to such a fight, in case I missed it, that will support some of this fantasy. Only SYJokers that killed any capital last 3 months are the second class citizens the EUs and auzies bar couple of kill-whoring of BNI. On another topic, you guys know that inties can run almost any hole/gate camp if you need to get out with small expensive stuff as BPOs or, I don't know, plexes?(think you should thank BNI for the diverssion ;) ). And lastly, "It's not a whooping if you enjoy it" says the masochist.

P.S. Tyrant you'd have Pell's babies, wouldn't you? Just kidding mate don't frown ;).
Axloth Okiah
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#152 - 2014-02-13 09:28:48 UTC
ROSSLINDEN0 wrote:
im 17 minutes in and it sounds like hes getting you wet but ok ill listen to the full thing before i make my final opinion
Rengas wrote:
I'm 34 minutes in and you could drown a toddler in my panties.
If you two arent wet when I'm on and speaking in my mobster accent im gonna be seriously butthurt and joinng SYJ asap.

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Mcpate
Unknown Means Unknown Consequenses
#153 - 2014-02-13 10:34:23 UTC
Quote:
we ofc didnt like the idea of giving away loot we gotten the right way in our eyes.
after alot of threats from pell nash and the directors came to a conclusion of giving the remaining blueprints back to them but not pay them anything at all, that pell had to do as he hadnt set them to blue as he claims he did.


Thanks for clearing that up Gunner. The moral to this story is:
1) If you dont hold your leaders accountable for their actions, you deserve what you (don't) get.
2) If you associate with stinky people, their stink rubs off on you.

I never did give anybody hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was hell. Harry S. Truman
Nox52
Pterygopalatine
#154 - 2014-02-13 10:44:50 UTC
I'd like to thank everyone for allowing me to achieve the personal goal of playing in c6 space and rustling some jimmies. I did not forsee I'd get to the stage where essentially the whole of wormholes would come to burn us, thank you for that.

I would like to remind and point out to everyone that you essentially evicted three approx. 20-man corporations, 2 euros and one aussie. If you waited another week or two you'd have evicted two approx 20-man corporations. The americans have been doing their own thing for a while now in lowsec. As such, I don't particularly see the claims of evicting SYJ out of wh space as particularly relevant considering that the real part of the alliance lives outside of bastion; for a while now too.

Unfortunately the discussion so far has largely moved over a valuable point characteristic of wh live and into ego waving. A lot of the content in high class wormholes is based on site ganks and dogpiled evictions. This started off as a site gank and a dogpiled eviction. After the poor euros got ganked in site we decided not to engage and secure assets. What's the point? We'd be throwing good money after bas. Unfortunately, now there is one less entity in high wh space (two if you want to count different timezones and independent corps).

I am glad to have provided the content for today, or even for the week. I worry for the content in two month's time, I do not forsee a big change in the nature of high wh space.

In closing I'd like to say I feel sorry for the euros, particularly the group ganked. It could have been us, it nearly was. As for the invaders, I nearly feel sorry for the amount of wh rolling you have to do to get your caps out.

o/
Borlag Crendraven
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#155 - 2014-02-13 11:15:10 UTC
Nox52 wrote:
I'd like to thank everyone for allowing me to achieve the personal goal of playing in c6 space and rustling some jimmies. I did not forsee I'd get to the stage where essentially the whole of wormholes would come to burn us, thank you for that.

I would like to remind and point out to everyone that you essentially evicted three approx. 20-man corporations, 2 euros and one aussie. If you waited another week or two you'd have evicted two approx 20-man corporations. The americans have been doing their own thing for a while now in lowsec. As such, I don't particularly see the claims of evicting SYJ out of wh space as particularly relevant considering that the real part of the alliance lives outside of bastion; for a while now too.

Unfortunately the discussion so far has largely moved over a valuable point characteristic of wh live and into ego waving. A lot of the content in high class wormholes is based on site ganks and dogpiled evictions. This started off as a site gank and a dogpiled eviction. After the poor euros got ganked in site we decided not to engage and secure assets. What's the point? We'd be throwing good money after bas. Unfortunately, now there is one less entity in high wh space (two if you want to count different timezones and independent corps).

I am glad to have provided the content for today, or even for the week. I worry for the content in two month's time, I do not forsee a big change in the nature of high wh space.

In closing I'd like to say I feel sorry for the euros, particularly the group ganked. It could have been us, it nearly was. As for the invaders, I nearly feel sorry for the amount of wh rolling you have to do to get your caps out.

o/


As a mere grunt in SSC, I think it's fairly safe that none of us really consider this a big victory or major achievement of any kind. But rather as something that needed to be done to set an example that there's a limit to asshattery when it comes to things said and done. I sincerely hope that the grunts in SYJ (current and former, and even leadership uninvolved with what Pell himself said), will take heed of this example and set up again in wspace, with a more level headed leadership in place. I believe this is pretty much what all of us (or nearly all anyway) think. We don't really want to throw out people who truly live in wormhole space and partisipate in the fights no matter how big or small.
Tyrant Scorn
#156 - 2014-02-13 12:55:04 UTC
Tyrant Scorn
#157 - 2014-02-13 13:04:36 UTC
calaretu wrote:
Since you keep on insisting posting this garbage and Pell calls us 2nd class citizen on podcast I'll do what I normally do not do and reply to this.


I think he was joking there but you know the man better then I do.

Sadly the interview I had with you didn't make it to the final cut since the quality of both our audio was really bad, that's mainly my fault duo to the lack of our own mumble server being online... I am truly sorry I had to scrap it.


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Rubba Dub Dub
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#158 - 2014-02-13 15:01:16 UTC
MonkeyMagic Thiesant wrote:
Rubba Dub Dub wrote:
I'd like to hear what the wh corps of SYJ have to say about this. It seems like maybe they didn't go to LS when leadership wanted them to, and so provoking an invasion of the old home system was semi-intentional from the perspective of annoyed leadership that wanted to say 'told ya so' about staying behind.


Nah, that doesn't really make sense. People were initially told they were free to stay if they wanted last August. Some (like me) kept a tower going so we could return for farming. That soon ended because almost nobody else from my corp was left - we were down to four sharing a tower (which will have been one of the unfuelled ones you bashed I guess).

When the alliance no2 unanchored his tower in September we knew things were over, and pretty much everyone else left too permanently. Everything was hauled out, towers were unanchored or just abandoned. I haven't been back since.


However, the Aussie guys stayed - this made sense, they were never on at the same time as the rest of the alliance, and have enough caps by themselves to be completely self-sufficient. They wouldn't add numbers in the ustz, so there would be no point pressuring them to come to LS (actually the first deployment was to npcnull, current is the third since leaving w-space).

There were also 1 (or 2?) Euro corps that also joined around the time everyone else was leaving. You'd have to ask them why they stayed, but I guess it was because they joined for wormhole action, so stayed for it. Same thing: different tz.


If Pell was pissed off at these guys, he'd just have booted them.


Ok, makes sense for the most part. I was just speculating, as the only part of this story that doesn't add up for me is why non wh-dwelling SYJ members brought an invasion onto the remaining SYJ wh dwellers. Either intentionally as I suggested, or unintentionally, it seems kind of silly.

I can buy the SYJ perspective that the old home system wasn't important enough to worry about, but still assume they'd prefer not to have lost it and what assets were left given the choice. It seems that some mistakes were made.

Now, if a few of the chest beating invaders here actually took some risk and fought each other (earnestly) instead of forming the wspace equivalent of NATO, we might have a wormhole story worth reading. Jerk each other off all you want, this was no more impressive than NATO invading some pissed off African country with a mouthy leader.

The real story here is that every group big enough to be afraid of now works together as blues for anything other than small gang fights. It is the worst cause of stagnation in wspace.

Axloth Okiah
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#159 - 2014-02-13 15:20:42 UTC
Rubba Dub Dub wrote:
Now, if a few of the chest beating invaders here actually took some risk and fought each other (earnestly) instead of forming the wspace equivalent of NATO, we might have a wormhole story worth reading. Jerk each other off all you want, this was no more impressive than NATO invading some pissed off African country with a mouthy leader.

The real story here is that every group big enough to be afraid of now works together as blues for anything other than small gang fights. It is the worst cause of stagnation in wspace.
Confirming we are permanently blue and never actually fight each other:
http://fcftw.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=18104037
http://fcftw.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=19482927
http://fcftw.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=21761311
http://fcftw.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=20810535
http://fcftw.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=20589893

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Tyrant Scorn
#160 - 2014-02-13 15:29:03 UTC
Axloth Okiah wrote:
Rubba Dub Dub wrote:
Now, if a few of the chest beating invaders here actually took some risk and fought each other (earnestly) instead of forming the wspace equivalent of NATO, we might have a wormhole story worth reading. Jerk each other off all you want, this was no more impressive than NATO invading some pissed off African country with a mouthy leader.

The real story here is that every group big enough to be afraid of now works together as blues for anything other than small gang fights. It is the worst cause of stagnation in wspace.
Confirming we are permanently blue and never actually fight each other:
http://fcftw.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=18104037
http://fcftw.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=19482927
http://fcftw.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=21761311
http://fcftw.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=20810535
http://fcftw.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=20589893


You aren't creating grudges either...

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