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Tyrant Scorn
#81 - 2014-02-12 14:39:02 UTC
Onomerous wrote:
We need more people to post about what SYJ has been doing and is doing now.


I am going to do an item on SYJ. I finished 2 interviews with SYJ guys and I am waiting for the invaders to tell their side of the story but only 1 guy has responded so far, others have not returned my requests, so I would give SYJ props for being the ones talking openly about their situation and the invaders are speculating at this point.


Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#82 - 2014-02-12 15:59:55 UTC
Seems like a simple action - reaction. Is it really needed to go into a bloated 'he said' 'she said' thing?

The agressors don't seem to be looking for anything but space ashes.

The lumpees keep saying they don't care about said ashes (I'm surpised they even bothered to respond to you).

Every thing seems to be working as intended. In 2 days both sides will be declaring victory and in 8 days everyone will be complaining about Fozzies next broken deployable deployment.

TBH it doesn't seem like a noteworthy op.

Glyndi
Doom Generation
Best Intentions.
#83 - 2014-02-12 16:06:30 UTC
Serendipity Lost wrote:
....TBH it doesn't seem like a noteworthy op.



Should have i not taken notes? Thought this was gonna be on the final.
Proclus Diadochu
Mar Sarrim
Red Coat Conspiracy
#84 - 2014-02-12 16:16:18 UTC
Serendipity Lost wrote:


TBH it doesn't seem like a noteworthy op.



Define "noteworthy op"...

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Borsek
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#85 - 2014-02-12 16:17:10 UTC
only thing I have to add is while SYJ may be lowseccers now, the hole they came through for the fight, supported by brave newbies, was in lowsec

had they brought a 90 man t3 fleet, as I heard they were capable of fielding one, they might have won, or at least got a crapton of kills

as for all the talk and misinformation, saying they don't care about the wormhole etc. - it's just common **** talk and defense, from both sides. IMHO this whole thing is not about getting ISK or making an epic eviction story, or getting great fights. It's about kicking pell in the nuts for his various statements... for me, it's just something to do instead of jerking off in my hole.
HTC NecoSino
Suddenly Carebears
#86 - 2014-02-12 16:35:47 UTC
Borsek wrote:
jerking off in my hole.


Wait.. what? lol
Gnaw LF
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#87 - 2014-02-12 17:02:28 UTC
Serendipity Lost wrote:
Seems like a simple action - reaction. Is it really needed to go into a bloated 'he said' 'she said' thing?

The agressors don't seem to be looking for anything but space ashes.

The lumpees keep saying they don't care about said ashes (I'm surpised they even bothered to respond to you).

Every thing seems to be working as intended. In 2 days both sides will be declaring victory and in 8 days everyone will be complaining about Fozzies next broken deployable deployment.

TBH it doesn't seem like a noteworthy op.




A couple of years ago -A- made a big public splash about how they were deploying some of their pilots into w-space and how they were going to change the face of w-space. Everyone banded together and kicked them out, that actual siege of their systems was not noteworthy, but everyone recalls the blunder of making that public statement and how it unified w-space. This event will be remembered the same, the siege is nothing out of the ordinary, the fight will be credited to BNI but everyone will remember the facepalming AMA from Pell.
Seraph IX Basarab
Outer Path
Seraphim Division
#88 - 2014-02-12 18:38:56 UTC
Bane Nucleus wrote:
The only people putting out misinformation about SYJ is SYJ. No one believes anything your group says, so quit pretending people that matter are falling for lame trolls. Maybe people not on the op who are on the outside looking in are speculating, but that's about it.

As far as tucking tail and running, I could never leave anyone in my alliance to get blown up without bringing everything we had. I can tell you that groups like NoHo, SSC, KILL, and other wh groups would never leave their corp/alliance mates to get steamrolled without putting up a good attempt at a rescue.

In conclusion, FOR SHAME!



It's like half of w-space lives in some delusional dimension. You guys been licking your windows when you fly through pulsars or something? Nobody "left their corp/alliance mates to get steamrolled." We left w-space months ago and the few who remained behind in Bastion were told that this sort of thing would eventually happen. We had maybe 20 or so SYJ guys online last night. We added about 90 or so BNI in a kitchen sink fleet, some of which got lost in low sec, some in w-space jumping holes.

We jumped in and you had a 90 or so man fleet composed of a line of Ishtars, T3s, capitals and dreads. What exactly are you bragging about?

Here's a question, why didn't you guys do this when all of SYJ was still living in w-space? Since SYJ is so bad i'm sure you could have done it then right? Instead you did it after most pvp assets had already left. Hmm how about this, come to lowsec, you have our address, ring the door bell see what happens. It's rather nice there. About 10-15 jumps to reach Aridia where TEST is or the entrance to Delve. About 10 jumps to go into Querious or Catch. I wonder what you guys are going to do.
Axloth Okiah
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#89 - 2014-02-12 18:47:10 UTC
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:
What exactly are you bragging about?
Link the bragging please.

Btw SYJ had bunch of capitals logged off in the WH during the fight and chose not to use them, so you can hardly complain about that.
Borsek
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#90 - 2014-02-12 18:56:51 UTC
Here's a question, why didn't you guys do this when all of SYJ was still living in w-space?

Ragnarok. was in a c5-c4 static during that dark, dark, lonely period of time.

The only worse hole you could pick is a c4 black hole c4 static.
Seraph IX Basarab
Outer Path
Seraphim Division
#91 - 2014-02-12 18:57:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Seraph IX Basarab
Axloth Okiah wrote:
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:
What exactly are you bragging about?
Link the bragging please.

Btw SYJ had bunch of capitals logged off in the WH during the fight and chose not to use them, so you can hardly complain about that.


Is that what you're being told? Even if that were true, a half serious subcap fleet can hardly support dreads.

Borsek wrote:
Here's a question, why didn't you guys do this when all of SYJ was still living in w-space?

Ragnarok. was in a c5-c4 static during that dark, dark, lonely period of time.

The only worse hole you could pick is a c4 black hole c4 static.


And you couldn't move to a better hole and attack SYJ why?
Axloth Okiah
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#92 - 2014-02-12 19:25:02 UTC
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:
Axloth Okiah wrote:
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:
What exactly are you bragging about?
Link the bragging please.

Btw SYJ had bunch of capitals logged off in the WH during the fight and chose not to use them, so you can hardly complain about that.
Is that what you're being told? Even if that were true, a half serious subcap fleet can hardly support dreads.
We watched them warp to deepsafes and log off during the first DT. I must disappoint you, im not a PR-machine.

As far as "why didnt we invade sooner?" question - answer is exceedingly simple. We had no reason to. The invasion was a very simple reaction to recent-ish events, all of which happened after US tz moved out of wspace. It had nothing to do with weakness or strength of whichever alliances. If we were just waiting for them to move out, we would have attacked in september and not waited half a year. Please dont blame us for not attacking at a time when there was no reason to do so. The actual numbers of players, value of assets and other stuff played no part in the decision, regardless of what some others might be telling you.

Also, for someone who was never part of wspace community, you are dispensing awful lot of judgment on how we do things. Please take your time to discover the reality of things before jumping to sweeping conclusions based on very short and narrow point of view provided by someone else. If you want to talk more, Im more than happy to - Id just like to avoid endless PR spinning and forum-warrioring.
Borlag Crendraven
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#93 - 2014-02-12 19:31:25 UTC
So here you are complaining that you weren't invaded previously... While that's kind of true (we never invaded you, but beat you otherwise), at the same time the reason for the invasion happened after you moved out. If you didn't want this to happen, you should've stayed in your cozy little low sec scrub castle and shut up about being the kings of wormhole space who could evict us all without breaking a sweat. Just what exactly did you expect would happen after claims like that?

Fact is, you have no moral high ground to stand on, just like you have no right to complain about what's going on. You reap what you sow...
Rubba Dub Dub
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#94 - 2014-02-12 19:34:05 UTC
Can someone please explain why this is special enough to warrant a 5 page **** talking post?

On one side:

  • Most of SYJ (inlcuding Pell) don't even really live in wspace anymore, leaving their old system as an obvious target. They say they don't care, enough to even defend it.
  • For some reason Pell felt the need to shoot his mouth off about not getting fights in wspace recently.
  • Why would you provoke a group that you know will come burn down your undefended wh? Isn't that throwing your remaining wh corps under the bus?

I'd like to hear what the wh corps of SYJ have to say about this. It seems like maybe they didn't go to LS when leadership wanted them to, and so provoking an invasion of the old home system was semi-intentional from the perspective of annoyed leadership that wanted to say 'told ya so' about staying behind. I've seen talk of 'we warned them they'd get invaded', but the invasion that happened seemed pretty specifically caused by the recent **** talking coming from SYJ members not even living in the wormhole.

On the other side:

  • Pell sandpapered a bunch of space vagina's with his claims that he can't get wspace fights, king of wspace, etc.
  • The same ******* group of people that always temporarly blue each other to safely deal with common enemies, temporarily blue each other to safely deal with common enemy.
  • They invade the SYJ system, shocked and dismayed that they are not getting a fight out of a group that doesnt live there.
  • They complain about stupid stuff like 'you had a few logged off caps in here, why didnt you log them on so we can slaughter them?'
  • They lick the nuts of BN for providing them some enterainment in the form of the slaughter they came for.


Anyway, I'm sure I missed a lot as an outsider looking in, but these are the reasons I think both groups come out of this looking sad.
Seraph IX Basarab
Outer Path
Seraphim Division
#95 - 2014-02-12 19:59:36 UTC
Axloth Okiah wrote:
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:
Axloth Okiah wrote:
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:
What exactly are you bragging about?
Link the bragging please.

Btw SYJ had bunch of capitals logged off in the WH during the fight and chose not to use them, so you can hardly complain about that.
Is that what you're being told? Even if that were true, a half serious subcap fleet can hardly support dreads.
We watched them warp to deepsafes and log off during the first DT. I must disappoint you, im not a PR-machine.

As far as "why didnt we invade sooner?" question - answer is exceedingly simple. We had no reason to. The invasion was a very simple reaction to recent-ish events, all of which happened after US tz moved out of wspace. It had nothing to do with weakness or strength of whichever alliances. If we were just waiting for them to move out, we would have attacked in september and not waited half a year. Please dont blame us for not attacking at a time when there was no reason to do so. The actual numbers of players, value of assets and other stuff played no part in the decision, regardless of what some others might be telling you.

Also, for someone who was never part of wspace community, you are dispensing awful lot of judgment on how we do things. Please take your time to discover the reality of things before jumping to sweeping conclusions based on very short and narrow point of view provided by someone else. If you want to talk more, Im more than happy to - Id just like to avoid endless PR spinning and forum-warrioring.


So what if they did go to deep safes? We don't live there anymore, there was nothing worth fighting over, nor did we have a proper sub cap fleet to fight yours. Did anything about our "attack" last night even seem serious to you? We had T1 Cruisers with T1 fits.

Ah yes the reason to invade was because big bad Pell said "Something" on the internet. If "hubris" was a crime you should probably line up half your allies last night against the wall too while you're at it. Let's be serious here. SYJ was pretty much THE end game in W-space. I haven't been part of SYJ for long so I don't claim any of that for myself but I've known Pell for a while, I keep in contact with quite a few people both openly and covertly, some of which were even in your fleet last night, not just as grunts, but leadership, so I have a pretty good idea of things as a whole.

And all this was, was a group of beta wolves scratching at the feces of the alpha wolf and claiming that they usurped his position in the pack. And you can dispense the koolaid any other way about this and how Pell is a terrible person and he said this and that and man we're so sad inside about Bastion. But that's for you guys alone. Nobody else buys it, nobody else cares.

Borlag Crendraven wrote:
So here you are complaining that you weren't invaded previously... While that's kind of true (we never invaded you, but beat you otherwise), at the same time the reason for the invasion happened after you moved out. If you didn't want this to happen, you should've stayed in your cozy little low sec scrub castle and shut up about being the kings of wormhole space who could evict us all without breaking a sweat. Just what exactly did you expect would happen after claims like that?

Fact is, you have no moral high ground to stand on, just like you have no right to complain about what's going on. You reap what you sow...


First off, no you didn't. The only KB report I saw last night was from one of you guys showing a 30 v 10 fight that you "won." SYJ's kb history is littered with the memory of wormhole alliances being evicted and crushed. The only entity I saw last night that could claim something similar was maybe Verge of Collapse.

And nobody said "we didn't want this." That's the thing. We're extremely quite OK with everything as it went down. I feel bad for the handful of euro guys that stayed in Bastion. But at the same time I think they're going to enjoy what we've been doing in lowsec a lot more considering most of w-space is inconsequential chest beating at the moment. I mean you had the "big names of w-space uniting to evict...a handful of remnants of SYJ and some abandoned towers" and acting like it was some major accomplishment. Great job. I honestly didn't even think THAT highly of SYJ until these last few days.

I'm sitting here thinking "wow, Pell must have wrecked some people's space dreams for this sort of thing to happen and for people to feel so good about it."



@ Rubba Dub Dub, pretty much spot on. But I think provoking these guys to hit our euros so they come to lowsec is giving Pell a little TOO much credit. What?
calaretu
Honestly We didnt know
#96 - 2014-02-12 20:13:40 UTC
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:

Propaganda


Seraph. Please stop commenting this thread.
Vayeate Marquise
Doomheim
#97 - 2014-02-12 20:17:28 UTC
http://weknowgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/scary-movie-popcorn-gif.gif


no it must go on! i wanna see their brilliant retort! I want to be convinced this matters! Cool

Problem? ~.~

Hidden Fremen
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#98 - 2014-02-12 20:19:50 UTC
calaretu wrote:
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:

Propaganda


Seraph. Please stop commenting this thread.


Lol, Seraph thinks evictions count as engagements.
Justin Cody
War Firm
#99 - 2014-02-12 20:24:58 UTC
Keep posting with your **** npc corp alts! Its totally revenant!
Royal Jedi
V0LTA
OnlyFleets.
#100 - 2014-02-12 20:29:38 UTC
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