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[Rubicon 1.3] Drone Assist change

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MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#661 - 2014-02-07 03:50:25 UTC
Kaphrah wrote:
MeBiatch wrote:
i am starting to lean towards the scale for drone assist

make make assist based on max mb since 1 sentry is 25mb so 25 X 50 = 1250mb

so thats 50 heavy/sentry

125 medium

250 light

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^ This.



not empty quoting

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#662 - 2014-02-07 03:51:10 UTC
Kaphrah wrote:
And I think most posts I see here from CSM members are total B******


I would like to point out, Kaphrah, (and I discovered this thanks to Malcanis), that you can in fact use the word bullshit on the forums.

Carry on.

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Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#663 - 2014-02-07 03:58:24 UTC
Krimishkev wrote:
People are just mad cause they die to wrecking ball fleets half the size of their own. Sorry but if you're gonna remove drone assist than you need to remove blobbing too. Toad.


Well, yeah, actually. The fact that Drone assist is completely unbalanced is kinda the point. Do try and keep up.
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#664 - 2014-02-07 04:07:05 UTC
Xython wrote:

Well, yeah, actually. The fact that Drone assist is completely unbalanced is kinda the point. Do try and keep up.


yes and so is the blob.

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Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#665 - 2014-02-07 04:08:52 UTC
any "counter" to the blob will ultimately become the blob hope this helps

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MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#666 - 2014-02-07 04:21:01 UTC
Andski wrote:
any "counter" to the blob will ultimately become the blob hope this helps


not true.

you just lack imagination

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Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#667 - 2014-02-07 04:25:01 UTC
Andski wrote:
any "counter" to the blob will ultimately become the blob hope this helps


Obviously its time to cap standings lists and then cap alliance membership numbers and then just artificially cap things in the sand box until we get it in the position that we want it, we of course not being the players who are creating the content but the developers who have proven over the years that they absolutely do NOT know whats best as anybody at the company who's shown an iota of creativity or forward thinking has been shuffled off by Hiltermar or let slip away.


I can surely support this point of view Andski, lets do it.

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#668 - 2014-02-07 04:25:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
Rek Seven wrote:
Sounds good to me.

The next best thing would be to completely design drones to function better in game and put less stress on the server. For example why have 5 drones that do 50 dps each instead of one that does 250 dps?!

Because they're a split weapons system. If you homogenized the drone into one single unit it'd be op, imagine a super warrior drone that acts like a warrior 2 getting a wrecking hit on your inty. At the moment they do but not all at once. Then you'd need to kill alll 5 warrior 2 ehp to reduce damage in a battle rather than popping one and reducing dps immediately etc etc

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Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#669 - 2014-02-07 04:30:15 UTC
We should probably cap the number of jumps you can make, and the number of broadcasts you can receive, and we maybe should cap the number of systems you can own, and definitely cap the number of stations you can build, lookin at you over there CVA, your rampant industrialization hasn't gone unnoticed, somebody will have to grind those one day, you're obviously exploiting a whole in game play, CAP IT.


If this all sounds absurd to you then I think you may be getting the point.

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#670 - 2014-02-07 04:32:16 UTC
it's hard to distinguish that from anything else you post because it's all absurd laffo

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Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#671 - 2014-02-07 04:33:32 UTC
Andski wrote:
it's hard to distinguish that from anything else you post because it's all absurd laffo


Cap the number of posts a person can make, obviously this kind of mechanic is out of control, its used constantly

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
Suitonia
Order of the Red Kestrel
#672 - 2014-02-07 04:40:14 UTC
Yo I don't even play on TQ but I got to say this is a pretty good change.

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Dramaticus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#673 - 2014-02-07 04:56:33 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
We should probably cap the number of jumps you can make, and the number of broadcasts you can receive, and we maybe should cap the number of systems you can own, and definitely cap the number of stations you can build, lookin at you over there CVA, your rampant industrialization hasn't gone unnoticed, somebody will have to grind those one day, you're obviously exploiting a whole in game play, CAP IT.


If this all sounds absurd to you then I think you may be getting the point.


u mad

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The edge is REALLY hard to see at times but it DOES exist and in this case we were looking at a situation where a new feature created for all of our customers was being virtually curbstomped by five of them
Pirokobo
Game.Theory
GameTheory
#674 - 2014-02-07 04:56:45 UTC
Honest Blob wrote:
Did you stop and think how this would negativly effect mining fleets?


Harvester drones don't assist.
HiddenPorpoise
Jarlhettur's Drop
United Federation of Conifers
#675 - 2014-02-07 05:02:34 UTC
I don't know how but I wasn't expecting PL and Goons to be yelling at eachother here, I'm clearly an idiot and I like the number 50 quite a lot now.
Zwo Zateki
Doomheim
#676 - 2014-02-07 05:11:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Zwo Zateki
Malcanis wrote:
Zwo Zateki wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
There is no contradiction, simply the fact that the potential harms to incursions, while undesirable, were of considerably lower importance than the decided balance point for drone assist. In the end any negative effect is still negligible, at worse making a second drone bunny, so it really hold no weight against the primary goal.


the fact that there is a negative effect, regardless of negligibility is the exact contradiction.

What makes it infuriating is that they're bowing to nullsec grunts and break highsec playstyle at the same time. Why can't just CCP realise that nullsec is just a vocal minority, irrelevant for the most subscribers?


12,000 trials were started in the week after B-R.

No doubt this was because they all heard Incursions are so awesome and wanted to run them one day.

We'll see how many of those trials actually stay in EVE after they learn that pressing F1 in TiDi is utter bullshit.

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Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#677 - 2014-02-07 05:14:12 UTC
Dramaticus wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:
We should probably cap the number of jumps you can make, and the number of broadcasts you can receive, and we maybe should cap the number of systems you can own, and definitely cap the number of stations you can build, lookin at you over there CVA, your rampant industrialization hasn't gone unnoticed, somebody will have to grind those one day, you're obviously exploiting a whole in game play, CAP IT.


If this all sounds absurd to you then I think you may be getting the point.


u mad

Cap any emotional content as well.

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#678 - 2014-02-07 05:17:04 UTC
Zwo Zateki wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Zwo Zateki wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
There is no contradiction, simply the fact that the potential harms to incursions, while undesirable, were of considerably lower importance than the decided balance point for drone assist. In the end any negative effect is still negligible, at worse making a second drone bunny, so it really hold no weight against the primary goal.


the fact that there is a negative effect, regardless of negligibility is the exact contradiction.

What makes it infuriating is that they're bowing to nullsec grunts and break highsec playstyle at the same time. Why can't just CCP realise that nullsec is just a vocal minority, irrelevant for the most subscribers?


12,000 trials were started in the week after B-R.

No doubt this was because they all heard Incursions are so awesome and wanted to run them one day.

We'll see how many of those trials actually stay in EVE after they learn that pressing F1 in TiDi is utter bullshit.


The only reason why incursion might keep people playing is because of how easy it is to plex...
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#679 - 2014-02-07 05:22:12 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
We should probably cap the number of jumps you can make, and the number of broadcasts you can receive, and we maybe should cap the number of systems you can own, and definitely cap the number of stations you can build, lookin at you over there CVA, your rampant industrialization hasn't gone unnoticed, somebody will have to grind those one day, you're obviously exploiting a whole in game play, CAP IT.


If this all sounds absurd to you then I think you may be getting the point.

I was wondering when I'd get to see a gem from you in this wonderful thread.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#680 - 2014-02-07 05:28:50 UTC
Desert Ice78 wrote:
This is about nerfing into the ground the only viable threat to CFC.

Hahaha you still think slowcats are a threat to us.
That's cute.
Maybe if you want to beat us you should actually diversify and use cunning, strategy, deception, diplomacy, etc. instead of being ****-lords who rely on a single broken mechanic.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)